Atlantic City Open Forum
Quote: onenickelmiracleI've walked from Harrah's to the boardwalk towing luggage and my sphincter never quivered. Saw one other lady along the way until getting to the boardwalk. I another occasion walked across around the marina with jack to worry about. People are too chickenpoop and are just followers.
I've done it many times, usually via North Carolina Ave. Never a problem. The 14 year old drug dealers on their little bicycles are very respectful. Some even call me sir. Working girls can be seen occasionally but they're usually on their way to somewhere else. Once you make it to the courthouse you should be good.
Quote: MrsHeartRNA couple of times I took the parkway back to the boardwalk, just to be on the safe side. I don't pay for parking pretty much everywhere (boardwalk and marina properties) I know it would be safer to take a cab (maybe??) but I can't see spending $26 when I can come and go for free.
As Chris Rock once said...(no it's not No Se# in the Champagne Room), "Don't ever get stuck on a Martin Luther King Blvd, Malcom X Blvd or a John F. Kennedy Blvd. nothin' ever good happens on those streets". I was in a bad area of Brooklyn and they did that tap my bumper thing at a light, they expected me to stop and get out of the car, I just kept driving.
We use strictly valet in AC. It represents many magnitudes of safety for a very small cost.
Quote: rdw4potusOr lived in a bad neighborhood. Or got road rage. Or committed insurance fraud. The allowed racism on this forum is sickening. It is shameful that it's tolerated by the moderators.
I admit my fears are born of ignorance. I also have to allow that I have them, and want to allay them. If that means staying out of the woods at night, so be it. I will travel through bad neighborhoods in my own city, where I am familiar with them, but lack of knowledge of the lay of the land causes anxiety to heighten.
Nevertheless, it makes no sense for a fat old middle class white guy to walk through a poor neighborhood without knowing where he's going. Or drive around in circles looking lost. Obviously the chance that something bad will happen is low, but that isn't the point. The point is to not be anxious, to answer to the system telling you to avoid danger. If that anxiety has been instilled through a lifetime of indoctrination, sensible discussion does nothing to palliate it when faced with it. Sorry for being a fool, but unfortunately there are a lot of us, split along racial and economic lines, and that is not helping AC.
Watch this video of an Atlantic City decoy cop getting mugged. There are no shortage of people in A.C. who will prey upon those they deem weak or vulnerable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SNJHeg-x1Q
Quote: MrsHeartRNYou know what scares me most of all is driving from the Marina to the boardwalk casino's after dark. (and vice versa) Those lights on the cross streets are so long. There's been many a red light that I've passed through when I saw people gathered on the street corners. I'm not a sissy by any means, my territory for work is Brooklyn and the Bronx but I feel like a sitting duck at those lights.
You ARE a sitting duck.
The "Hands Up Don't Shoot" demographic will kill you just for practice.
Don't leave the hotel or BW after dark. Period.
Quote: bobsimsYou ARE a sitting duck.
The "Hands Up Don't Shoot" demographic will kill you just for practice.
Don't leave the hotel or BW after dark. Period.
No truer words were ever spoken. The anti-police crowd is made of of two groups, the first is the bad guys that the police target. The second is the clueless liberals. The second group is also known as the future victims of the first group.
Trop just took down all its $25 6-deck bj games. Now it closes down the 4 tables of the 6deckers and offers $25 8-deck games (The 2 tables are near the cage). So guys, skip Trop and drive right to Borgata for its $25 6-deck games.
Geez..whatever happens to the good old healthy competitions? Can an Einstein please explain to me why Borgata is the only casino which offers the best $25 6-deck bj games?
Quote: ArtemisHere are some bad news from Tropicana...
Trop just took down all its $25 6-deck bj games. Now it closes down the 4 tables of the 6deckers and offers $25 8-deck games (The 2 tables are near the cage). So guys, skip Trop and drive right to Borgata for its $25 6-deck games.
Geez..whatever happens to the good old healthy competitions? Can an Einstein please explain to me why Borgata is the only casino which offers the best $25 6-deck bj games?
Because a ploppy doesn't know the difference between 6 decks and 8.
A shoe is a shoe.
Quote: ArtemisCan an Einstein please explain to me why Borgata is the only casino which offers the best $25 6-deck bj games?
Stupidity? It's pretty clear that players don't know/care...
Quote: rdw4potusStupidity? It's pretty clear that players don't know/care...
Quote: sc15Because a ploppy doesn't know the difference between 6 decks and 8.
A shoe is a shoe.
Games may be played by morons, but the best Vice President (for marketing) gives decent perks and best games/slots; thus, he brings in all the losing morons to the #1 casino. For example, Steve Nathan, who received an MBA from Rutgers, was hired by Borg to do such a fine job.
Numbers don't lie. May the best casino "wins." Per the latest report below, Borg won the most money from AC gamblers with the decent perks, slots and table games. Steve knows how to out-compete his competitors such as Tropicana. As I mentioned before, Trop cuts out the good games and replaces them with bad ones. Even morons knows that Borgata gives the best bang for a buck.
Hey, don't take my words for it. Just visit Borg on a Monday night. You will see tons of morons in Borg, but not much of morons in Trop.
Quote: ArtemisGames may be played by morons, but the best Vice President (for marketing) gives decent perks and best games/slots; thus, he brings in all the losing morons to the #1 casino. For example, Steve Nathan, who received an MBA from Rutgers, was hired by Borg to do such a fine job.
Numbers don't lie. May the best casino "wins." Per the latest report below, Borg won the most money from AC gamblers with the decent perks, slots and table games. Steve knows how to out-compete his competitors such as Tropicana. As I mentioned before, Trop cuts out the good games and replaces them with bad ones. Even morons knows that Borgata gives the best bang for a buck.
Hey, don't take my words for it. Just visit Borg on a Monday night. You will see tons of morons in Borg, but not much of morons in Trop.
You think the casino with the most floorspace, games, and hotel rooms - and with the best location - has the most revenue because it has slightly better blackjack than smaller casinos do? Does Walmart outsell CVS because it has 20,000 more SKUs, 20x the floorspace, and a lot next to the interstate or does it outsell CVS because the shared SKUs are priced 0.5% cheaper at Walmart?
Are you sure that bragging up a Rutgers MBA is a good idea? That's an impressive degree from an OK school, but the list of better schools in Philly and NYC is pretty darn long. It's not like we're talking about Wharton or Columbia or anything...
from AC press:
"A Pennsylvania real estate company that specializes in residential projects and senior-citizen housing has agreed to buy the shuttered Atlantic Club Casino Hotel, newly filed property records show.The purchase by an affiliate of Endeavor Property Group LLC continues a revolving door of ownership at the Atlantic Club since the former Boardwalk casino closed Jan. 13, 2014, amid Atlantic City’s economic crisis.Endeavor, of Devon, Pennsylvania, is buying the complex from TJM Properties Inc. for an undisclosed price. Neither company commented Tuesday on the transaction, which was disclosed in an agreement of sale filed Dec. 29 with the Atlantic County Clerk’s Office. Once the sale closes, a deed will be filed giving the price.Atlantic Club is under a deed restriction barring it from being used as a casino again"
Forget about the table games. Would you rather eat and stay at borg, or a dump like trop?
Quote: sc15Would you rather eat and stay at borg, or a dump like trop?
That's a cute false equivalency. Sands is nicer still and has even better games. Maybe you should start shilling for uncle shelly?
Quote: rdw4potusThat's a cute false equivalency. Sands is nicer still and has even better games. Maybe you should start shilling for uncle shelly?
You mean bethlehem sands?
Well, I can't comment on the quality of the rooms/food now, but I find it hard to believe they have a nicer hotel than the water club, and a nicer restaurant than bobby flay's, or a better player's lounge than the amphora lounge.
Plus while they do compete w/ AC for players, they're not nearly as close of a market as trop is to borgata.
If you're going to AC, it's the same drive to go to trop vs borgata. Sands is a couple hours away from AC.
Quote: sc15
If you're going to AC, it's the same drive to go to trop vs borgata. Sands is a couple hours away from AC.
Yes, Sands is a couple hours away from AC. That makes it a shorter drive for many if not most would-be AC visitors (it's closer to NYC and most parts of Philly than AC is). And, as an added bonus, you don't even have to be in AC to play there:-)
Slightly off topic, but how are you adjusting to living in one of America's few casino wastelands?Quote: rdw4potusYes, Sands is a couple hours away from AC. That makes it a shorter drive for many if not most would-be AC visitors (it's closer to NYC and most parts of Philly than AC is). And, as an added bonus, you don't even have to be in AC to play there:-)
Quote: teddysSlightly off topic, but how are you adjusting to living in one of America's few casino wastelands?
That's taken some getting used to. This is the farthest I've ever lived from a casino, and I haven't played anywhere since I moved here 7 months ago which I think is the longest I've gone without official gambling since before I was 18. I do miss it, but apparently not enough to drive up to NC or over to MS (or down to FL) to play.
Quote: rdw4potusThat's a cute false equivalency. Sands is nicer still and has even better games. Maybe you should start shilling for uncle shelly?
Borgata is much nicer than Sands. I'm an hour from Sands, and pass it to drive the extra two hours to Borgata.
Quote: MoscaBorgata is much nicer than Sands. I'm an hour from Sands, and pass it to drive the extra two hours to Borgata.
Also the waitresses at borgata have bigger tits.
ATM stolen from in front of Boardwalk store -from AC press
"Boardwalk ambassadors and police were called to the store at 1401 Boardwalk at 7:30 a.m. for a break in, Sgt. Chris Barber said. While police were investigating, they found the ATM stashed in the back of the store..the machine was taken out of CT News near St. James Place and the Boardwalk around 10 p.m. and wheeled off in a shopping cart. It is believed that it was put there to steal later"
Quote: 7star4nowwhy steal the milk when you can steal the cow?
ATM stolen from in front of Boardwalk store -from AC press
"Boardwalk ambassadors and police were called to the store at 1401 Boardwalk at 7:30 a.m. for a break in, Sgt. Chris Barber said. While police were investigating, they found the ATM stashed in the back of the store..the machine was taken out of CT News near St. James Place and the Boardwalk around 10 p.m. and wheeled off in a shopping cart. It is believed that it was put there to steal later"
The Boardwalk ambassadors do more than yell at kids on skateboards? Who knew?
Atlantic City Boardwalk Ambassador Sentenced to 6 years in Prison for Selling Heroin to Undercover Police Officer
http://www.gallowaytownshipnews.com/2014/01/atlantic-city-boardwalk-ambassador.html
Quote: 7star4nowYes, in fact , they are very busy with a range of activities:
Atlantic City Boardwalk Ambassador Sentenced to 6 years in Prison for Selling Heroin to Undercover Police Officer
http://www.gallowaytownshipnews.com/2014/01/atlantic-city-boardwalk-ambassador.html
Why the known drug dealer was hired as a prestige Atlantic City Boardwalk Ambassador? The hiring manager should be fired!
Or more likely, he, or his lawyer, "knew" a trusted AC govt official.
Perhaps, if Anthony Bourdain ever visits the environs of AC, this guy could be his guide to the 4th world there.
Quote: Scan
you will likely find that the major problem here is everything is mashed together in one lone unwieldly AC thread, so if you want to learn about a specific topic you have to wade through hundreds of pages. That is really not possible. So we basically just discuss what is topical. Perhaps someday they will put a separate AC area here. It certainly would be a big draw.
Why have you all chosen to put all of the AC discussions in one thread? If you want multiple threads, just make them. If there were more than 1 thread, and if each one was mostly on-topic, it'd strengthen the case for an organized AC-based subcategory...
Quote: rdw4potusWhy have you all chosen to put all of the AC discussions in one thread? If you want multiple threads, just make them. If there were more than 1 thread, and if each one was mostly on-topic, it'd strengthen the case for an organized AC-based subcategory...
For some reason the Admins here think that is an absurd idea...
"Religion" and "GLBT" need their own sections (and they get far less posts than this singular thread)...
So we have to be content with 5-10 overlapping conversations/arguments/topics ongoing in one thread...
That said Revel failed miserably as a casino and I wouldn't be overly optimistic about the future of another boardwalk casino.
Maybe it is just an enormous White Elephant?
Quote: GandlerFor some reason the Admins here think that is an absurd idea...
"Religion" and "GLBT" need their own sections (and they get far less posts than this singular thread)...
So we have to be content with 5-10 overlapping conversations/arguments/topics ongoing in one thread...
Of course you don't have to "be content with 5-10 overlapping conversations...in one thread". The admins didn't make this thread, and they're not stopping you from making new ones.
Quote: rdw4potusOf course you don't have to "be content with 5-10 overlapping conversations...in one thread". The admins didn't make this thread, and they're not stopping you from making new ones.
No, but the admins are not making an AC section which was the issue that he brought up.
Have you tried making an even vaguely AC related thread?
Everything will jump on you with "This belongs in the AC thread!"
But an even more relevant argument is there are so many inactive sections that literally have not had a single post in months (in some cases years). AC gets discussed everyday. It seems beyond silly that they have some of the sections that they have, but not an AC section. It they were pushing for a concise forum I would understand. But they have a plethora of sections. There is no reason they can't add one that will actually be used (unlike the large majority of sections)...
Quote: GandlerNo, but the admins are not making an AC section which was the issue that he brought up.
Have you tried making an even vaguely AC related thread?
Everything will jump on you with "This belongs in the AC thread!"
But an even more relevant argument is there are so many inactive sections that literally have not had a single post in months (in some cases years). AC gets discussed everyday. It seems beyond silly that they have some of the sections that they have, but not an AC section. It they were pushing for a concise forum I would understand. But they have a plethora of sections. There is no reason they can't add one that will actually be used (unlike the large majority of sections)...
You seem to be kind of bent out of shape about this. I'm not sure why, except maybe that this is a Vegas gambling site/forum, the request wasn't honored, but I can look into it. It's more that this is 7star4now's thread, and the discussion changes as things happen in AC. As rdw said, you can make new threads about specific AC things (which has happened many times, specifically talking about CET AC issues, several Revel-centric threads, and Borgata's poker and Phil Ivey messes; they just show up sometimes here, sometimes specific to the topic) in the 1 1/2 years I've been reading.
Quote: GandlerNo, but the admins are not making an AC section which was the issue that he brought up.
No, it isn't...
Quote: rdw4potusQuote: scan
you will likely find that the major problem here is everything is mashed together in one lone unwieldly AC thread, so if you want to learn about a specific topic you have to wade through hundreds of pages. That is really not possible. So we basically just discuss what is topical. Perhaps someday they will put a separate AC area here. It certainly would be a big draw.
Why have you all chosen to put all of the AC discussions in one thread? If you want multiple threads, just make them. If there were more than 1 thread, and if each one was mostly on-topic, it'd strengthen the case for an organized AC-based subcategory...
Do you really think that the admins at wizardofVEGAS.com, which is owned by an internet-gambling-related company, will make a special subsection for discussing AC? Wouldn't that elevate a discussion that undercuts the broader board in 2 pretty obvious ways?
I understand this is primarily a Vegas site but so many other relatively minor topic have their own section.
I am certain a Atlantic City specific section of this board would drive a ton of HITS to the board.
Just my two cents
Quote: rdw4potusNo, it isn't...
Quote: rdw4potusQuote: scan
you will likely find that the major problem here is everything is mashed together in one lone unwieldly AC thread, so if you want to learn about a specific topic you have to wade through hundreds of pages. That is really not possible. So we basically just discuss what is topical. Perhaps someday they will put a separate AC area here. It certainly would be a big draw.
Why have you all chosen to put all of the AC discussions in one thread? If you want multiple threads, just make them. If there were more than 1 thread, and if each one was mostly on-topic, it'd strengthen the case for an organized AC-based subcategory...
Do you really think that the admins at wizardofVEGAS.com, which is owned by an internet-gambling-related company, will make a special subsection for discussing AC? Wouldn't that elevate a discussion that undercuts the broader board in 2 pretty obvious ways?
More eyeballs to the screen to sell soap to- isn't that how it works? who cares what city they're talking about?
Maybe a new Wizard of AC site? hint hint
Quote: rdw4potusNo, it isn't...
I see the confusion, in my reply 2 posts prior I clicked the wrong text box to quote. I did not mean to quote you. But, regardless, that is still my view.
Quote: rdw4potus
Do you really think that the admins at wizardofVEGAS.com, which is owned by an internet-gambling-related company, will make a special subsection for discussing AC? Wouldn't that elevate a discussion that undercuts the broader board in 2 pretty obvious ways?
As I said in the other post. If they were a strictly Vegas only site, that would be a valid point. But they have many non Vegas topics, including many topics not even slightly relevant to gambling or casino tourism. It seems like a section for the AC is a very valid request.
Quote: beachbumbabsYou seem to be kind of bent out of shape about this. I'm not sure why, except maybe that this is a Vegas gambling site/forum, the request wasn't honored, but I can look into it. It's more that this is 7star4now's thread, and the discussion changes as things happen in AC. As rdw said, you can make new threads about specific AC things (which has happened many times, specifically talking about CET AC issues, several Revel-centric threads, and Borgata's poker and Phil Ivey messes; they just show up sometimes here, sometimes specific to the topic) in the 1 1/2 years I've been reading.
I am not at all bent out of shape (that is just how I debate). He (and others before) made a valid request (that I really liked the sound of), and everyone poopooed that view. And, this has been brought up by others in other threads (with a similar reaction if I recall right). So I decided I would defend that position because its a logical request.
Look at how many sections your forum has? And look at how many sections don't have any activity for months or years. And look at how many people post about AC in various threads. I would bet an AC section would have more posts than at least 80% of the current sections... Especially given everything that is happening currently....
Quote: 7star4nowQuote: rdw4potusNo, it isn't...
Quote: rdw4potusQuote: scan
you will likely find that the major problem here is everything is mashed together in one lone unwieldly AC thread, so if you want to learn about a specific topic you have to wade through hundreds of pages. That is really not possible. So we basically just discuss what is topical. Perhaps someday they will put a separate AC area here. It certainly would be a big draw.
Why have you all chosen to put all of the AC discussions in one thread? If you want multiple threads, just make them. If there were more than 1 thread, and if each one was mostly on-topic, it'd strengthen the case for an organized AC-based subcategory...
Do you really think that the admins at wizardofVEGAS.com, which is owned by an internet-gambling-related company, will make a special subsection for discussing AC? Wouldn't that elevate a discussion that undercuts the broader board in 2 pretty obvious ways?
More eyeballs to the screen to sell soap to- isn't that how it works? who cares what city they're talking about?
Maybe a new Wizard of AC site? hint hint
There was a Wizard of Odds in AC for years. He did a column for TV Atlantic Magazine. It was mainly a best of thing about the casinos. The magazine was free on the Boardwalk.
Quote: GandlerNo, but the admins are not making an AC section which was the issue that he brought up.
Have you tried making an even vaguely AC related thread?
Everything will jump on you with "This belongs in the AC thread!"
I agree that their should be a.subsection for AC. Has anyone actually emailed Wizard or Zuga and asked for 1? Just requesting it in here is not going to get it done.
Also, you only have the take it to ac forum half right. Usually what happens is 7star will post something. It will have a page or 2 of discussion and then someone will start a whole new thread talking about the same thing. So now we have 2 discussions about the same topic. This is probably even more of a reason to have an AC subsection. It would prevent this from happening.
Here is a million dollar question... which stores are still open in a deep freeze on the Boardwalk?
Quote: GandlerFor some reason the Admins here think that is an absurd idea...
We do? Who does? Do I?
As RDW4POTUS stated, if we were to see a variety of AC threads all on unique topics go multiple posts, then that would be a good case for an AC Sub-Forum. As of right now, this thread seems to essentially be on one or two topics at a time and moves one-three pages on a daily basis. Some days it doesn't move at all.
That said, I'd definitely entertain the idea of an AC sub-Forum.
Quote: ArtemisAC has been in a deep freeze, especially on the Boardwalk. Much of stores have been temporarily shuttered due to the lack of businesses...
Here is a million dollar question... which stores are still open in a deep freeze on the Boardwalk?
Can I guess which performer is out instead?
"It's so cold that"...boardwalk pickpockets are sticking their hands in strangers' pockets just to keep them warm.... Hiyoooo!
Quote: Mission146We do? Who does? Do I?
As RDW4POTUS stated, if we were to see a variety of AC threads all on unique topics go multiple posts, then that would be a good case for an AC Sub-Forum. As of right now, this thread seems to essentially be on one or two topics at a time and moves one-three pages on a daily basis. Some days it doesn't move at all.
That said, I'd definitely entertain the idea of an AC sub-Forum.
Its been brought up before a bunch of times in several different threads (and I think a few months ago somebody even made a thread dedicated to requesting/petitioning for an AC thread) and there are always snide replies or it gets brushed off.
Quote: ArtemisAC has been in a deep freeze, especially on the Boardwalk. Much of stores have been temporarily shuttered due to the lack of businesses...
Here is a million dollar question... which stores are still open in a deep freeze on the Boardwalk?
The only Happy Ending in those massage parlors is from the woman doing the massage when she tells you that you owe her $75 for a 15 minute back massage.
Quote: JackStraw8004That's that dopey woman who sings Gospel on the Boardwalk. You should pay her a dollar to stop singing. I have often thought about setting up a boom box across from her and rapping just to drown her out.
Can be annoying but I give her a pass, at least she seems to be doing what she loves- not begging or stealing-never got in my face etc
Quote: Gandler
Its been brought up before a bunch of times in several different threads (and I think a few months ago somebody even made a thread dedicated to requesting/petitioning for an AC thread) and there are always snide replies or it gets brushed off.
Indeed, the thread to which you reference had such widespread support that it generated a total of seven posts in twenty days before dying. Granted, all of the posts were in support of the AC Sub-Forum. Let me ask the Wizard if he would be interested in putting the matter to a Board vote, though I imagine most people would vote yes. We have so many friggin' Sub-Forums as it is there's no reason not to have one...lol
Quote: Mission146Indeed, the thread to which you reference had such widespread support that it generated a total of seven posts in twenty days before dying. Granted, all of the posts were in support of the AC Sub-Forum. Let me ask the Wizard if he would be interested in putting the matter to a Board vote, though I imagine most people would vote yes. We have so many friggin' Sub-Forums as it is there's no reason not to have one...lol
I suggest breaking up the "other casinos" category. It's great that AC has a following here now, but it would also be nice to more easily find info on other common non-ac locations (CA, PA, MS/LA, etc.)
Quote: rdw4potusI suggest breaking up the "other casinos" category. It's great that AC has a following here now, but it would also be nice to more easily find info on other common non-ac locations (CA, PA, MS/LA, etc.)
I don't know how many individual geographical regions and/or States would necessarily warrant a sub-forum, though. The, "Other Casinos," sub-forum has had 704 topics created in about 63 months, which comes out only to about eleven per month.
Quote: Mission146I don't know how many individual geographical regions and/or States would necessarily warrant a sub-forum, though. The, "Other Casinos," sub-forum has had 704 topics created in about 63 months, which comes out only to about eleven per month.
That's because half of the posts end up in this massive thread lol
edit: also the other massive threads here covering broad genres...
