Atlantic City Open Forum
Quote: aladyat42Too many years since I have been to Wildwood. Nice amusement rides wandgames on boardwalk back then.as for cleaning up the city, that was supposed to happen when gambling was first legalized. n
Now 35 years later and nothing has changed, except the boardwalk has gotten seedier and the beach has been allowed to erode. AC has not hit bottom yet, not quite.
I tend to be more optimistic. It has been declining so fast that now people are starting to notice. With a lot of influence from the state as well as new players to the City so to speak I think positive changes will start to happen fast.
I will even say I think in the next few years will be an exciting time, as I think the City will start to rise once the Colleges start to come in. Crime is generally a product of poverty, if the city turns around crime will inevitably decrease and police can crack down on the few that are left.
AC will be on the rise soon. It may never be known as a Casino Mecha again, so to speak, but that may be a good thing, and there will always be at least some casinos.
Quote: aladyat42... the city is basically almost entirely a ghetto.
Fixed it for ya. I go to AC 3 or 4 times a year. The only place I go once arriving at the Borgata is possibly out to dinner at the Trop or to a Flyers game, and we will always get a limo (9 or 10 people, $50 total to go across town; substantially more to go to Philly). I walked/sprinted from Harrah's to Resorts once when I was 16 (young and stupid, and fast) and barely escaped intact; I would not even consider doing so today. If it was not for Borgata and (to a lesser degree) Tropicana, I don't think I would ever set foot in the entire miserable state of NJ, with the possible exception of driving through to get to points north and east.
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Quote: aladyat42Don't judge the Garden state by AC. Or the residents of AC who have been victimized by the politicians.
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I don't. I graduated from Rutgers undergrad, and I grew up in Philadelphia, and spent many summer vacations down the shore. I've experienced plenty of NJ. High taxes, lots of corruption, horrendous gun laws, ridiculous car and homeowners insurance rates. What's not to like? It's like California, only not as scenic.
College students are notorious for being more naive and more oblivious to their surroundings than adult gamblers. And it is also noteworthy that amid all the current palaver, hardly a word has been spoken about the rampant anarchy in AC. Maybe the governor learned his lesson from the last time he promised state intervention and could not produce a single improvement for that threatening problem.Quote: GandlerThe City will start to rise once the Colleges start to come in. Crime is generally a product of poverty, if the city turns around crime will inevitably decrease and police can crack down on the few that are left.
Quote: DaddydocI don't. I graduated from Rutgers undergrad, and I grew up in Philadelphia, and spent many summer vacations down the shore. I've experienced plenty of NJ. High taxes, lots of corruption, horrendous gun laws, ridiculous car and homeowners insurance rates. What's not to like? It's like California, only not as scenic.
What's not to like?
1) Tax Department
NJ Department of Taxation so screws up. Why can't NJ be as good as NY? For example, NJ requires a small Corp owner to file 22 pages of income tax forms.
http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/pdf/current/cbt/cbt100s.pdf
NY only requires a small Corp owner to file 4 pages of income tax forms.
http://www.tax.ny.gov/pdf/current_forms/ct/ct4.pdf
2) Toll roads
Jersey has too many toll roads.
For examples, I drove from Linwood to Margate, and I had to pay $1.50 toll on Mills Road/Margate Blvd. I also paid $1 toll when I drove from Margate to Ocean City.
3) Endless road repairs
Jersey road crews create traffic jams and slow down drivers on roadways more than that of NY or PA's.
4)...100) you guys please fill in your 2 cents.
Quote: ArtemisWhat's not to like?...
4)...100) you guys please fill in your 2 cents.
Sounds like a new thread.
4. Traffic circles (many fewer now than in the past)
Quote: DaddydocSounds like a new thread.
4. Traffic circles (many fewer now than in the past)
Are you saying too many or too few? Because I can think of 2 off of the top of my head in all of NJ.
Granted I rarely go too far north of AC unless on highways.
Quote: Daddydoc
What's not to like?...
4. Traffic circles (many fewer now than in the past)
One is too many. Those things are crazy to drive on. The Marlton Circle is gone, but they still have one outside the AC airport, and there used to be one near Freehold (I had a girlfriend whose dad lived there). When I was a kid, my dad used to drive down Rt 73 to get to AC, and there were at least 2 (maybe 3) on that trip.
#5. a 7% surcharge... It's another New Jersey ugly thing.
NJ requires my insurance company to "penalize" me with a 7% surcharge. $700 was deducted from my $10,000 settlement proceed. The $700 was turned over to NJ as a SALES TAX.
My car was totaled in an accident, NOT at my fault. NJ treated the transaction as if my insurance company bought my totaled car; thus, I had to pay sales tax on behalf of my insurance company.
NJ is so twisted. Why does NJ require a seller (me, a victim of car accident) to pay sales tax? A buyer (my insurance company) should pay sales tax, not me. I kid you not. If I find the settlement letter, I will post it here later.
Quote: DaddydocI don't think I would ever set foot in the entire miserable state of NJ, .
Do the people who live there realize it's
falling apart? I was there about 6 years
ago and was appalled at the poor roads,
decaying bridges and rusty road signs.
And rusty crappy cars. Maybe they think
the whole country looks like that. It
doesn't..
Quote: EvenBobDo the people who live there realize it's
falling apart? I was there about 6 years
ago and was appalled at the poor roads,
decaying bridges and rusty road signs.
And rusty crappy cars. Maybe they think
the whole country looks like that. It
doesn't..
NJ is the third-wealthiest state in the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income#States_ranked_by_per_capita_income
Sure, you might say we don't spend enough on public infrastructure -- I agree.
But where do you get the rusty, crappy cars from? This isn't Kentucky. NJ is one of the richest places in the country.
Quote: DaddydocHigh per-capita income is different from wealth. I think (but I don't know for certain) that several counties in the north of the state outside of NYC probably skew the numbers. Not that I think the government needs to do "something" about it, but income disparity is higher in NJ as well; 37th on this list. You sure wouldn't know the wealth of NJ from its cities (Camden, Newark). The income may be high, but the cost of living is commensurately high; median home prices, high real estate taxes, etc, all of which eat into the high per-capita income.
Per-capita income isn't that good a measurement of wealth, you're right.
Median income is much better, and NJ is 2nd highest in median income.
You're right though, NJ has high inequality -- and inequality has been on the rise all over. It's pure greed from the 1%.
Quote: sodawater
You're right though, NJ has high inequality -- and inequality has been on the rise all over. It's pure greed from the 1%.
Let's not go there. Waaaay off topic. And, it's more like the top 0.01%. The top 1% in many cases consists of successful small business owners and others who have actually earned the money they have. I think your beef would be with the Federal Reserve Bank, who have basically created the wealth inequality we have today by allowing the banks they ostensibly regulate (who in reality own the Fed) to run roughshod over black letter law. And yes, those are the top 0.01%, or even the top 0.001%.
Quote: sodawaterNJ is one of the richest places in the country.
And it's in the top 5 most expensive states to
live in. It's on a par with Calif and only beat
by NY, AK and Hawaii. It costs 30% more
to live in NJ than in the average cost of living
states.
$75,039,790 Ceasars Inc - 3 casinos + interactive (37.1%)
$59,197,783 Borgata + interactive (29.2%)
Second month after the giant shutdown and Borgota seems to be gaining market share at the expense of Ceasar's .
Of the $44m lost with the shutdown, about $21m net seems to be going to the other AC casinos, while the rest is lost to the winds. I suppose it was too much to expect that AC would retain it all.
Only Bally's iand Taj are down from last year
A New York board today selected three locations for gambling resorts in the state, one of which is roughly 60 miles from Mahwah in Bergen County, but passed on plans for casinos even closer to New Jersey."
wonder who paid for this decision?
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/new_york_casino_atlantic_city.html
Quote: onenickelmiracleRock the cashbah.
Funny...well this is good news. I new Carl would swoop in ...it was just a matter of if he did it post closing or before they shut down.
Now on a more somber note. WTF is the Taj going to do about all this lost business...they stopped taking reservation past this Saturday the 20th, they stopped issuing markers, they have alienated all of their players. The place is a ghost town. They are going to have to pull out all the stops to get some of this business back. As others have pointed out here..it seems like the other casinos in town are easily absorbing the Taj's business. Not that many years ago the Taj had the best poker room in town. Now it's deserted. The facilities and location are still decent. But the amount of marketing it's going to take to fill the place back up boggles the mind. It may actually be too late. Probably not, Icahn has deep pockets..and has turned the Trop around since 2009. But by stringing this out so long they really hurt their prospects for a quick turnaround. It's kind of sad really.
I'm going to AC this weekend 20-22...to start my holiday break. Yea me. I will check out the Taj and report anything interesting.
Quote: 7star4now"New York casino picks a 'huge relief' for Atlantic City, analyst says
A New York board today selected three locations for gambling resorts in the state, one of which is roughly 60 miles from Mahwah in Bergen County, but passed on plans for casinos even closer to New Jersey."
wonder who paid for this decision?
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/new_york_casino_atlantic_city.html
7stars...are you implying politicians in NY/NJ are on the take? I'm shocked, shocked I say!!! :)
Quote: BozJust wanted to say WELCOME to this forum. From your posts over at the AC Forum, I know you can add a lot to the discussion here and hope you stick around. It can be a tough crowd, but there are many good people here with huge knowledge levels that we all learn from.
You mean the forum where it's taboo to say a casino is closing, but ok to say a casino might stay open?
Is TA HQ in North Korea?
A guy was found dead in the water near Golden Nugget Casino
Quote: ArtemisSome active posters here have gone MIA for many days. Hmm... I wonder why. Could one of the guys be in the news mentioned below?
A guy was found dead in the water near Golden Nugget Casino
As for me, this scenario is about 2/3 accurate.
I have been MIA, spent a lot of time in the water, but it was on a tropical island where gambling is illegal, but the purchase of Cuban cigars is not.
People are, so my sources tell me, are found dead in Atlantic City all the time. It's just assumed they are homeless or down and out gamblers and not a big deal news wise.
Quote: GWAEHmm vacation where there is no gambling. That is just crazy talk.
Can you explain that to my wife pls?
Quote: 7star4nowCan you explain that to my wife pls?
Haha, that's why mine doesn't want to go back to Hawaii!
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PM me please if you don't want to share the wealth publicly!
This post should have its own thread under SLOTS, and maybe it will get some activity.
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I saw that machine, blew $100 through it without getting any bonus rounds, walked away.
The Marina area is a considerable walk from many of the seedier neighborhoods. Truth be told many prefer going to the Marina just to avoid the riff raff found along the boardwalk.
The cop explained to us that many in the criminal world viewed us as non-street wise and easy prey.
He did offer us good advice though. Simple things like locking doors, keeping windows up. And a few that came as a surprise. Like when coming to a stop leaving plenty of room between your car and the car in front of you. That way if something doesn't seem right you can turn your wheel and hit the gas and pass the car in front of you. Or if you are stopped at a red-light and something doesn't seem right look both ways and run the light.
There were constant vehicle break ins. One of the worst things that happened to someone I knew was a fellow student stopped in traffic. A guy smashed her window with a brick and grabbed her purse off the passenger seat. She was shook up but unhurt. I think that cop told us not to leave anything whatsoever visible in the passenger compartment. Street criminals tend to be rather impulsive. They see it then they go for it.
Quote: MrsHeartRNYou know what scares me most of all is driving from the Marina to the boardwalk casino's after dark. (and vice versa) Those lights on the cross streets are so long. There's been many a red light that I've passed through when I saw people gathered on the street corners. I'm not a sissy by any means, my territory for work is Brooklyn and the Bronx but I feel like a sitting duck at those lights.
Hell, we feel that way mid morning. Or afternoon, doesn't matter. The journey from the Marina District to the boardwalk is right through the center of the worst part of town. And god forbid you make a wrong turn; at least if you stay on the main route there are other cars around.
As Chris Rock once said...(no it's not No Se# in the Champagne Room), "Don't ever get stuck on a Martin Luther King Blvd, Malcom X Blvd or a John F. Kennedy Blvd. nothin' ever good happens on those streets". I was in a bad area of Brooklyn and they did that tap my bumper thing at a light, they expected me to stop and get out of the car, I just kept driving.
Quote: MoscaThe journey from the Marina District to the boardwalk is right through the center of the worst part of town.
You don't have to take the Maryland Ave route to the Boardwalk, you can take the tunnel and won't travel through any residential neighborhoods at all.
Quote: MrsHeartRNA couple of times I took the parkway back to the boardwalk, just to be on the safe side. I don't pay for parking pretty much everywhere (boardwalk and marina properties) I know it would be safer to take a cab (maybe??) but I can't see spending $26 when I can come and go for free.
As Chris Rock once said...(no it's not No Se# in the Champagne Room), "Don't ever get stuck on a Martin Luther King Blvd, Malcom X Blvd or a John F. Kennedy Blvd. nothin' ever good happens on those streets". I was in a bad area of Brooklyn and they did that tap my bumper thing at a light, they expected me to stop and get out of the car, I just kept driving.
If you're ever in an accident (especially in a bad neighborhood and if the driver of the other car is black), you call the police first and wait for them to show up before getting out of the car. That way if something seems wrong you can floor it out of there and deal with it later.
Quote: sc15If you're ever in an accident (especially in a bad neighborhood and if the driver of the other car is black), you call the police first and wait for them to show up before getting out of the car. That way if something seems wrong you can floor it out of there and deal with it later.
Yep because a white person never killed anyone.
Quote: GWAEYep because a white person never killed anyone.
Or lived in a bad neighborhood. Or got road rage. Or committed insurance fraud. The allowed racism on this forum is sickening. It is shameful that it's tolerated by the moderators.
Quote: sc15If you're ever in an accident (especially in a bad neighborhood and if the driver of the other car is black), you call the police first and wait for them to show up before getting out of the car. That way if something seems wrong you can floor it out of there and deal with it later.
Unacceptable. Move to Banish.
Quote: GWAEYep because a white person never killed anyone.
Statistically you're much more likely to get robbed in an inner city area by a black person.
And statistically the demographic that has the most criminals are blacks. Look at the US prison population vs overall US population. Some people might call it racism, but those are the facts.
"Anthony Barksdale, the city's former acting police commissioner, is leaving his post as Horseshoe Baltimore's security director four months after the casino opened.
Horseshoe, managed by debt-hobbled Caesars Entertainment Corp., faces a unique security challenge because it holds the city's only 24-7 liquor license. And its image has been tarnished by a few incidents.There was a fight in a food court area on the first Saturday after the casino's Aug. 26 opening. A video of the incident shows security guards wearing yellow shirts rushing to break up the scuffle, which occurred in the line for a pizza restaurant, around 3 a.m.A New Year's Day disturbance also was captured on video at about 2:30 a.m. It was a "short altercation that was immediately diffused by security," said Noah Hirsch, the casino's vice president of marketing. He said it involved three people who "were escorted off the property." No arrests were made and no one was hurt. For November, the last month for which figures are available from the state's casino compliance unit, Horseshoe reported 25 incidents, including eight "physical altercations" and eight thefts or robberies. The fights led to three arrests and nine reported evictions. The prior month, 36 incidents were reported, including seven fights, 13 thefts or robberies and 15 evictions for being "too intoxicated," according to online state records."
Just like AC, those are only the "reported" incidents.
When will the underage Horseshoe Baltimore "pool party" commence?
Do they even have a pool - or does that not matter?
http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-bz-horseshoe-security-20150105-story.html
Make those six seven. The Sands.Quote: dave12038457Atlantic Club, Playboy casino, Trump Plaza, Claridge, Showboat, Revel.
Trump Marina was reburbished and opened as The Golden Nugget.
