Atlantic City Open Forum
December 2nd, 2013 at 3:08:04 PM
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Quote: rdw4potusYou know that Kennedy is in Queens, right?
Yes, I live very close to JFK & I am what you might call a very frequent flyer.
BTW, the 2 posts you quote are not related, the former had nothing to do with crime in AC.
Just thought it was an interesting story involving an AC gambler.
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:18:23 PM
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The difference between the strip is the AC boardwalk is simple. No one with any common sense would walk the AC boardwalk anywhere after 5PM alone today December 2nd, while I would have no such concerns 24/7 on the Vegas strip between Wynn and The Trop.
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:19:48 PM
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Quote: BozThe difference between the strip is the AC boardwalk is simple. No one with any common sense would walk the AC boardwalk anywhere after 5PM alone today December 2nd, while I would have no such concerns 24/7 on the Vegas strip between Wynn and The Trop.
I would say after 9pm (there are plenty of boardwalk people trekking between Revel and Showboat and beyond) especially on weekends.
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:21:33 PM
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I have to agree with Boz and then the kind of melee you have to avoid in LV is drunken fights but in AC the kind of bad news you want to avoid is someone trying to liberate your money from you. This is almost always (bot not exclusively) a worse situation to be in.
“There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.” - Winston Churchill
December 2nd, 2013 at 5:05:13 PM
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Quote: BozThe difference between the strip is the AC boardwalk is simple. No one with any common sense would walk the AC boardwalk anywhere after 5PM alone today December 2nd, while I would have no such concerns 24/7 on the Vegas strip between Wynn and The Trop.
+1
based soley on on personal visits to AC 1000X+, Vegas 50X+
December 2nd, 2013 at 5:16:31 PM
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Atlantic City Worries About Online Gaming
Will it give gamblers a reason to stay home?
"Online gaming and the alliance may be at cross purposes. The two-year-old alliance is spending $30 million a year to encourage visitors to come and spend money in the city’s casinos, restaurants, and hotels. One can’t “Do AC” – the name of the alliance’s marketing campaign that began last year – by staying home and gambling from an iPhone or laptop...
“Our view is that there will be some cannibalization, primarily in the poker room,” said gaming analyst John Kempf of RBC Capital Markets L.L.C. “But [online gaming] is not a very profitable area for the bricks-and-mortar casino. The cannibalization on the casino floor will be minimal."
"When you can gamble everywhere, it seems, nowhere in particular becomes the best place to gamble."
I hope "The cannibalization on the casino floor will be minimal", but how many times has the AC market been misread by the "experts"?
http://www.phillymag.com/news/2013/12/02/atlantic-city-worries-online-gaming/
Will it give gamblers a reason to stay home?
"Online gaming and the alliance may be at cross purposes. The two-year-old alliance is spending $30 million a year to encourage visitors to come and spend money in the city’s casinos, restaurants, and hotels. One can’t “Do AC” – the name of the alliance’s marketing campaign that began last year – by staying home and gambling from an iPhone or laptop...
“Our view is that there will be some cannibalization, primarily in the poker room,” said gaming analyst John Kempf of RBC Capital Markets L.L.C. “But [online gaming] is not a very profitable area for the bricks-and-mortar casino. The cannibalization on the casino floor will be minimal."
"When you can gamble everywhere, it seems, nowhere in particular becomes the best place to gamble."
I hope "The cannibalization on the casino floor will be minimal", but how many times has the AC market been misread by the "experts"?
http://www.phillymag.com/news/2013/12/02/atlantic-city-worries-online-gaming/
December 3rd, 2013 at 6:39:39 AM
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A "sucker bet" pays off:
New Jersey man wins over $200,000 on a progressive table game at Borgata in Atlantic City
William Ruggiero of Manalapan, NJ recently won a life-changing jackpot at Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa when he placed a side bet of a single one-dollar chip, on the casino's new Let It Ride progressive table game and received a royal straight flush of hearts.
http://www.nj.com/atlantic-city-entertainment/index.ssf/2013/12/new_jersey_man_wins_over_200000_on_a_progressive_table_game_at_borgata_casino_spa.html
New Jersey man wins over $200,000 on a progressive table game at Borgata in Atlantic City
William Ruggiero of Manalapan, NJ recently won a life-changing jackpot at Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa when he placed a side bet of a single one-dollar chip, on the casino's new Let It Ride progressive table game and received a royal straight flush of hearts.
http://www.nj.com/atlantic-city-entertainment/index.ssf/2013/12/new_jersey_man_wins_over_200000_on_a_progressive_table_game_at_borgata_casino_spa.html
December 4th, 2013 at 11:32:41 AM
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New Revel lounge is supposed to officially open Friday with day1 menu featuring steak & lobster tail.
(sorry, bread & water ,only, for AP guests)
(sorry, bread & water ,only, for AP guests)
December 4th, 2013 at 11:42:26 AM
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Quote: 7star4now
William Ruggiero of Manalapan, NJ recently won a life-changing jackpot l
He'll get to keep what, $100K of it? That's life changing?
If you live in Zimbabwe, maybe. Not in this country
anymore.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 4th, 2013 at 12:27:59 PM
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I agree it is a nice chunk of money that I would love, but not life changing.
December 5th, 2013 at 3:51:06 PM
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Quote: 7star4nowHere's a question, we get why NJ can't take bets from the other 50 states, but why not take bets from the rest of the world?
"In addition to people from more than half the states in America illegally trying to log on to New Jersey Internet gambling websites, technology has detected users in Portugal, Ghana, India and Canada trying to do likewise."
http://nj1015.com/17k-bet-online-in-nj-during-test-run/
This is a problem, a NJ politician thinks the same way I do.
Considering the fate of many NJ politicians, should I be concerned?
TRENTON – State Sen. Raymond Lesniak introduced a legislative plan on Thursday that would put Atlantic City at the center of an international gaming industry that is expected to experience rapid growth in the years ahead. The plan would help attract international gaming companies to Atlantic City, producing jobs, state revenue and economic expansion, Lesniak (D-Union) said.
Lesniak’s bill, S-3084, would authorize the Division of Gaming Enforcement to provide licenses to companies that offer Internet gaming to other countries where it is legal, allowing overseas customers, including casinos, to place wagers on casino games via the Internet. The service would be restricted to foreign countries and regulatory agreements would have to be implemented between New Jersey and the foreign jurisdiction
Read more: http://njtoday.net/2013/12/05/lesniak-introduces-plan-to-make-atlantic-city-an-international-internet-gaming-center/#ixzz2meCdpy9V
Tell everyone to get New Jersey News from WWW.NJTODAY.NET
December 10th, 2013 at 12:59:44 PM
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Considering this, & the fate of CET - in AC, since being taken over by hedge funds, should NJ continue to allow these entities to operate its casinos?
"ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. -- The bidding for The Atlantic Club Casino Hotel in a bankruptcy auction next week will begin at $25 million.
That's $10 million more than the only deal the casino has been able to put together to sell itself when a sale to the PokerStars website fell through earlier this year. But, that deal would have seen PokerStars assume significant liabilities the casino has amassed, something that might not happen in the sale scheduled for Dec. 17
...The Atlantic Club's owners, Los Angeles hedge fund Colony Capital, paid $513 million for it in 2005."
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/12/10/5988330/25m-minimum-bid-set-in-atlantic.html#storylink=cpy
"ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. -- The bidding for The Atlantic Club Casino Hotel in a bankruptcy auction next week will begin at $25 million.
That's $10 million more than the only deal the casino has been able to put together to sell itself when a sale to the PokerStars website fell through earlier this year. But, that deal would have seen PokerStars assume significant liabilities the casino has amassed, something that might not happen in the sale scheduled for Dec. 17
...The Atlantic Club's owners, Los Angeles hedge fund Colony Capital, paid $513 million for it in 2005."
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/12/10/5988330/25m-minimum-bid-set-in-atlantic.html#storylink=cpy
December 10th, 2013 at 3:17:31 PM
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Here's something I've been surprised by...
The going rate for a Room in Ballys or Showboat for New Year's Eve 2013...
$250!!
For the past 10 years, the "Main Strip" casinos have been sold out months in advance for NYE.
However, this year it seems the demand has gone down so much, I can get a room for less than $300 after taxes & fees.
I am a Gold card member, who has been to AC about a dozen times this year. Maybe losing $200 total to CET properties.
I have a place in Seaside Heights, so I've never needed to book a room on NYE. But I may consider it this year and will keep an eye on the online rates to see if it drops even further.
But this is still pretty shocking that the rates are not only not Sold Out, but are quite reasonable for arguably the busiest night of the year in AC.
The going rate for a Room in Ballys or Showboat for New Year's Eve 2013...
$250!!
For the past 10 years, the "Main Strip" casinos have been sold out months in advance for NYE.
However, this year it seems the demand has gone down so much, I can get a room for less than $300 after taxes & fees.
I am a Gold card member, who has been to AC about a dozen times this year. Maybe losing $200 total to CET properties.
I have a place in Seaside Heights, so I've never needed to book a room on NYE. But I may consider it this year and will keep an eye on the online rates to see if it drops even further.
But this is still pretty shocking that the rates are not only not Sold Out, but are quite reasonable for arguably the busiest night of the year in AC.
December 10th, 2013 at 4:49:54 PM
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Free room and party offers have been tricking down to lessor players club members as rooms go unfilled. I believe they see the bloodbath coming and are trying anything to fill the casinos.
December 10th, 2013 at 5:02:48 PM
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My wife got her offers from Resorts in the mail today. Free room any night from Jan. 1st to Feb. 28th. Food and slot play also included. This is all based on very modest penny slot play. Offers from other casinos should be arriving soon. You gotta love it. As I've said before, the more you stiff 'em the more offers you get.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
December 10th, 2013 at 7:09:20 PM
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I'd bet you could call Revel at noon on Dec 31st and get a free room. I called the day before the Alicia Keyes concert and got one for the night of the show, a Saturday.
A falling knife has no handle.
December 10th, 2013 at 7:57:23 PM
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After this past weekend, Caesars better send me something better than free parking.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
December 10th, 2013 at 8:01:42 PM
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Quote: MoscaI'd bet you could call Revel at noon on Dec 31st and get a free room. I called the day before the Alicia Keyes concert and got one for the night of the show, a Saturday.
When will the AC "Casino Control Commission", aka "Gaming Enforcement" agency, be formally renamed as "NJ FTroop"?
http://nj.gov/casinos/news/2010/pdf/revel_license_2012.pdf
"IT’S RESTAURANTS, THEATERS AND SPA WILL BE STRONG LURES TO ATTRACT NEW VISITORS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN ENJOYING MUCH MORE THAN JUST A CASINO.UNLIKE OTHER EXISTING CASINO HOTELS, REVEL EMBRACES ITS BEACHFRONT LOCATION AND INCORPORATES IT AS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE FACILITY. WITH THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND ITS UNDERSTATED ELEGANCE, IT IS EASY TO SEE WHY MANY BELIEVE REVEL IS SETTING A NEW STANDARD AGAINST WHICH FUTURE PROPERTIES WILL BE MEASURED.
WE HAVE HEARD MR. DESANCTIS DESCRIBE MANY OF THE AMENITIES THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS HIS MARKETING PLAN AND HIS VISION FOR REVEL AND ATLANTIC CITY. WE ARE PLACING A GREAT DEAL OF CONFIDENCE IN YOU MR. DESANCTIS AND YOUR TEAM AT REVEL. YOUR ABILITY TO MARKET THIS PROPERTY AND DRAW NEW PEOPLE TO COME AND EXPERIENCE WHAT ATLANTIC CITY HAS TO OFFER WILL PLAY AN ENORMOUS ROLE IN THE FUTURE SUCCESS OF THE GAMING INDUSTRY HERE."
gravy stains?
December 10th, 2013 at 8:22:10 PM
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Quote: 7star4nowWhen will the AC "Casino Control Commission", aka "Gaming Enforcement" agency, be formally renamed as "NJ FTroop"?
http://nj.gov/casinos/news/2010/pdf/revel_license_2012.pdf
"IT’S RESTAURANTS, THEATERS AND SPA WILL BE STRONG LURES TO ATTRACT NEW VISITORS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN ENJOYING MUCH MORE THAN JUST A CASINO.UNLIKE OTHER EXISTING CASINO HOTELS, REVEL EMBRACES ITS BEACHFRONT LOCATION AND INCORPORATES IT AS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE FACILITY. WITH THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND ITS UNDERSTATED ELEGANCE, IT IS EASY TO SEE WHY MANY BELIEVE REVEL IS SETTING A NEW STANDARD AGAINST WHICH FUTURE PROPERTIES WILL BE MEASURED.
WE HAVE HEARD MR. DESANCTIS DESCRIBE MANY OF THE AMENITIES THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS HIS MARKETING PLAN AND HIS VISION FOR REVEL AND ATLANTIC CITY. WE ARE PLACING A GREAT DEAL OF CONFIDENCE IN YOU MR. DESANCTIS AND YOUR TEAM AT REVEL. YOUR ABILITY TO MARKET THIS PROPERTY AND DRAW NEW PEOPLE TO COME AND EXPERIENCE WHAT ATLANTIC CITY HAS TO OFFER WILL PLAY AN ENORMOUS ROLE IN THE FUTURE SUCCESS OF THE GAMING INDUSTRY HERE."
gravy stains?
"Its".
A falling knife has no handle.
December 10th, 2013 at 8:24:17 PM
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AC tourists should rely on the advice of "destination experts" to inform them when & where they will be safe?
"Woman stabbed on bus from Atlantic City; assailant yelled he had AIDS, fled"
http://www.nj.com/atlantic/index.ssf/2013/12/woman_stabbed_on_bus_from_atlantic_city_assailant_yelled_he_had_aids_fled.html
"Woman stabbed on bus from Atlantic City; assailant yelled he had AIDS, fled"
http://www.nj.com/atlantic/index.ssf/2013/12/woman_stabbed_on_bus_from_atlantic_city_assailant_yelled_he_had_aids_fled.html
December 10th, 2013 at 9:12:12 PM
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Quote: Mosca"Its".
I love that you care about this; it's the little things that add up to so much. heeheehee
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
December 11th, 2013 at 11:51:28 AM
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Bill would explore expanding gaming beyond Atlantic City:
"The Assembly Regulatory Oversight and Gaming Committee is scheduled to hold a hearing Thursday on a bill to explore the prospects for gaming in Bergen County
...But South Jersey lawmakers fear the competition would be the death of Atlantic City.
http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2013/12/casinos_in_bergen_county_bill_would_explore_expanding_gaming_beyond_atlantic_city.html
"The Assembly Regulatory Oversight and Gaming Committee is scheduled to hold a hearing Thursday on a bill to explore the prospects for gaming in Bergen County
...But South Jersey lawmakers fear the competition would be the death of Atlantic City.
http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2013/12/casinos_in_bergen_county_bill_would_explore_expanding_gaming_beyond_atlantic_city.html
December 11th, 2013 at 6:25:31 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsI love that you care about this; it's the little things that add up to so much. heeheehee
Hehe. And it is an official document. To be fair, that was the only one they got wrong. All the other possessives were correct. But still. Word corrects spelling, grammar, and punctuation, and even iOS can put the apostrophe in or leave it out pretty accurately.
A falling knife has no handle.
December 11th, 2013 at 8:05:03 PM
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Quote: MoscaHehe. And it is an official document. To be fair, that was the only one they got wrong. All the other possessives were correct. But still. Word corrects spelling, grammar, and punctuation, and even iOS can put the apostrophe in or leave it out pretty accurately.
I agree, the failure to guide a $2.5 billion entity into responsible hands, in a market where more than 1/2 of the licence holders are going belly up, pales in comparison to the grammar.
I am a Chris Christie fan, but , how will he ever survive being from NJ?
December 16th, 2013 at 12:27:56 PM
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CET must really be hurting for NYE ...
from Ballys: just got a 14X multiplier for 1/1 & a bunch of slot$ for NYE... I haven't played there in 5 mos.
from Ballys: just got a 14X multiplier for 1/1 & a bunch of slot$ for NYE... I haven't played there in 5 mos.
December 16th, 2013 at 12:39:47 PM
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Quote: 7star4nowI agree, the failure to guide a $2.5 billion entity into responsible hands, in a market where more than 1/2 of the licence holders are going belly up, pales in comparison to the grammar.
If you can't get the little things right, you'll never get the big things right. You have to pay attention to the details.
A falling knife has no handle.
December 16th, 2013 at 12:43:33 PM
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Quote: MoscaIf you can't get the little things right, you'll never get the big things right. You have to pay attention to the details.
Otherwise, people might sue you for screwing up a birthday promotion or a loss rebate or...dammit. :-)
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
December 18th, 2013 at 5:25:57 PM
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AC New Year’s Eve 2014 Party Guide
(note: In would be in poor taste for many of you Vegas regulars to make fun of a lack of "big names", in fact, FYI, I heard Pauly Walnuts cousin is close to inking a deal to guest DJ @ the Atlantic Club, should it remain open)
so there!,
there are only so many Kardashians to go around, after all
http://www.atlanticcityweekly.com/arts-and-entertainment/nightlife/New-Years-Eve-2014-Party-Guide-nye-14-concerts-ac-resolution-philadelphia-atlantic-city-nightlife-south-jersey-236429061.html?page=1&comments=1&showAll=
(note: In would be in poor taste for many of you Vegas regulars to make fun of a lack of "big names", in fact, FYI, I heard Pauly Walnuts cousin is close to inking a deal to guest DJ @ the Atlantic Club, should it remain open)
so there!,
there are only so many Kardashians to go around, after all
http://www.atlanticcityweekly.com/arts-and-entertainment/nightlife/New-Years-Eve-2014-Party-Guide-nye-14-concerts-ac-resolution-philadelphia-atlantic-city-nightlife-south-jersey-236429061.html?page=1&comments=1&showAll=
December 18th, 2013 at 9:06:42 PM
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We're down here at Borgata and Revel, Revel is so dead both Mrs and I were in the top 10 for the slot tournament. We played in one once before, it was packed and we waited in line half an hour and swore to never do it again, but this was all octogenarians and there were like five players for every bank of 35 machines. She won 100, I won 75. Borgata is so dead that table minimums are $5 at 9PM.
A falling knife has no handle.
December 20th, 2013 at 6:08:44 PM
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Hard Rock in talks to buy troubled Revel Casino
http://nypost.com/2013/12/19/hard-rock-in-talks-to-buy-troubled-revel-casino-sources/
http://nypost.com/2013/12/19/hard-rock-in-talks-to-buy-troubled-revel-casino-sources/
December 20th, 2013 at 6:13:59 PM
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Atlantic Club to be sold for parts, closed
http://www.rgj.com/viewart/20131220/BIZ04/312200048/Atlantic-Club-sold-parts-closed
http://www.rgj.com/viewart/20131220/BIZ04/312200048/Atlantic-Club-sold-parts-closed
December 20th, 2013 at 6:29:54 PM
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I like the Atlantic Club more than Trump. Why didn't Trump close first.
I like the Atlantic Club more than Trump. Why didn't Trump close first.
Its - Possessive; It's - "It is" / "It has"; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They're - "They are"
December 20th, 2013 at 7:06:47 PM
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Quote: ahiromuNoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I like the Atlantic Club more than Trump. Why didn't Trump close first.
Trump's "parts" (pre-historic slots) have no value as "parts"
fear not, only the beginning of "ghost casinos" in AC
CET's strategy appears to be mothballing them to reduce competition- vs addressing their own relationship w/ players- good strategy for a hedge fund...disaster for a customer driven entity?
December 20th, 2013 at 7:06:58 PM
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Quote: ahiromuNoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I like the Atlantic Club more than Trump. Why didn't Trump close first.
Location, location, location?
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
December 20th, 2013 at 7:20:25 PM
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Quite frankly I find it funny places bringing in millions can't make it. Then a casino with all those jobs is sold for five percent of the previous purchase price. No matter the dim future, there have to be just so many individuals and businesses that could afford the deal. Who cares if it's a porn site owner if the place stays open? If I would have won the Mega, I would have considered it and would not have followed the casino religion they all practice. Just all there is in America are oligarchies and human clones everywhere. AC needs a maverick and some leadership. I'll just never understand these things. It just always seems like the real truth there is really only one company running every industry like a hydra with five heads.
I am a robot.
December 20th, 2013 at 7:38:52 PM
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Wow....I can't say I'm surprised the Atl. Club is closing..it has the worst location of any of the AC properties. But it seemed like they were making a little niche for themselves as the low roller/local joint in town. On a related note. They have been chasing my middling green chip action hard. So hard they comped me a suite for New Years Eve with all the trimmings.. free tickets to show...champagne in the room... free access to the party in the ballroom blah blah blah. I accepted, and was looking forward to a little adult time with the wife. Now it just seems sad, like a funeral or something. Though I can't say I'll miss the place it's pretty dated and unremarkable.
In regards to the Trump Plaza which a couple of other posters mentioned. Agreed it's currently the most depressing property in AC...but it's center boardwalk location is worth something. Sooner or later (hopefully sooner) somebody is going to buy that place for pennies on the dollar and run it right. I hope.
In regards to the Trump Plaza which a couple of other posters mentioned. Agreed it's currently the most depressing property in AC...but it's center boardwalk location is worth something. Sooner or later (hopefully sooner) somebody is going to buy that place for pennies on the dollar and run it right. I hope.
December 20th, 2013 at 8:04:00 PM
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I agree.
Trump Plaza's location, & the lack of interest in it , serve as a "weather vane" pointing to the potential for future investment in AC.
It puzzles me that so many players superimpose the fact that "every casino has a house edge" into "every casino makes a profit", without regard to their debt structure, which in AC, is, all that matters right now.
Trump Plaza's location, & the lack of interest in it , serve as a "weather vane" pointing to the potential for future investment in AC.
It puzzles me that so many players superimpose the fact that "every casino has a house edge" into "every casino makes a profit", without regard to their debt structure, which in AC, is, all that matters right now.
December 21st, 2013 at 3:23:18 PM
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Quote: 7star4nowAtlantic Club to be sold for parts, closed
http://www.rgj.com/viewart/20131220/BIZ04/312200048/Atlantic-Club-sold-parts-closed
I'm wondering, given the situation, how anyone could still spend NYE @ Atlantic Club?
I would feel awkward, celebrating, as the staff is forced to work serving me, while they face this situation.
I think the timing of this situation would be better managed by granting the employees a paid severance, closing the place sooner, -vs forcing the staff to be away from their families to collect blood money working in a dead end proposition over the holidays.
At this point, do the few extra bucks that might come in over the next few weeks really make any difference to the players in this deal?
December 21st, 2013 at 3:53:26 PM
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Quote: 7star4nowI'm wondering, given the situation, how anyone could still spend NYE @ Atlantic Club?
I would feel awkward, celebrating, as the staff is forced to work serving me, while they face this situation.
I think the timing of this situation would be better managed by granting the employees a paid severance, closing the place sooner, -vs forcing the staff to be away from their families to collect blood money working in a dead end proposition over the holidays.
At this point, do the few extra bucks that might come in over the next few weeks really make any difference to the players in this deal?
In a city with 12% unemployment and on a downward spiral I bet that every hour counts and NYE is one of the biggest days of the year for tips.
December 21st, 2013 at 6:08:58 PM
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Quote: PokeraddictIn a city with 12% unemployment and on a downward spiral I bet that every hour counts and NYE is one of the biggest days of the year for tips.
I get that, but I'm talking severance that at least compensates for lost gratuities -vs dehumanizing the staff as trained seals waiting for a fishhead to be thrown into their mouth... & believe me, I have no sympathy for irrational, grandstanding union stunts, which also may have contributed to the plight of these workers- if you read between the lines:
Did this help keep the casino open & preserve their jobs or did it fuel the loss of jobs?
http://www.casino.org/news/no-takers-yet-for-atlantic-club-auction-as-union-makes-demands
December 21st, 2013 at 7:40:38 PM
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We don't really know what went on behind the scenes but it seems to me the union demands would be a turnoff to anyone interested in keeping the property open. They apparently were not funding $32 million in pension payments so who knows what happens with that if a buyer is forced to accept the current contract.
December 21st, 2013 at 8:37:56 PM
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It might be nice to provide the severance and the holidays, but with what money? They're bankrupt. I would think that the employees BEGGED the current management to keep the place open until after the holidays, because that's the best money of the year out there; lots of holiday gamblers, champagne, expensive meals, etc. means lots of tips, and I'd guess it will be astronomical with the customers knowing this is the end.
I really liked them when they were the AC Hilton. I stayed with them several times, in part because they had the classic feel of gaming back 30-50 years ago, with lots of very senior people and courtesies from the pits. Their comps were also very generous compared to my play, I felt. I never paid for anything there, got invited to special parties, concerts, and the like, and I was never more than a dolphin at best. I liked the walk to the south, their place being immediately adjacent to (really opening out onto) the boardwalk, less people to thread through out there. I had a great host, too, probably liked her personally better than any other host I've had, though I have a good one now.
RIP AC Club. Thanks for the fun.
I really liked them when they were the AC Hilton. I stayed with them several times, in part because they had the classic feel of gaming back 30-50 years ago, with lots of very senior people and courtesies from the pits. Their comps were also very generous compared to my play, I felt. I never paid for anything there, got invited to special parties, concerts, and the like, and I was never more than a dolphin at best. I liked the walk to the south, their place being immediately adjacent to (really opening out onto) the boardwalk, less people to thread through out there. I had a great host, too, probably liked her personally better than any other host I've had, though I have a good one now.
RIP AC Club. Thanks for the fun.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
December 21st, 2013 at 8:46:10 PM
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Sigh, Trump Plaza it is then. All of their VP is so shitty and I feel so guilty playing 8/5... even if it's for quarters and like $20 a day.
Its - Possessive; It's - "It is" / "It has"; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They're - "They are"
December 22nd, 2013 at 4:07:11 AM
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This news really makes me sad. Over the last 2 summers I have been able to get corner rooms comped on the weekends. I have stayed 4 summer weekends for free.
Last summer we went 3 times with our 2 year old. There is no way that we can afford to stay right on the beach now. I am sad for the employees and I am sad for us. :-(
Last summer we went 3 times with our 2 year old. There is no way that we can afford to stay right on the beach now. I am sad for the employees and I am sad for us. :-(
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December 22nd, 2013 at 10:47:36 AM
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Quote: GWAEThis news really makes me sad. Over the last 2 summers I have been able to get corner rooms comped on the weekends. I have stayed 4 summer weekends for free.
Last summer we went 3 times with our 2 year old. There is no way that we can afford to stay right on the beach now. I am sad for the employees and I am sad for us. :-(
i am sure one of the other struggling boardwalk properties would be happy to comp you summer weekend rooms for some modest play. some of these casinos i have just walked through and they send me weekly mailers begging me to come stay with them -- and i am the opposite of a high roller, and i only play low-house-edge games.
have you looked into places like resorts? showboat? trump taj? heck, even revel. if you go to revel and play green chips you can have the run of the place now. how times have changed.
December 22nd, 2013 at 11:16:03 AM
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They used to have a $1 3 coin aces and faces,to the right, around the corner at the top of the escalator coming from the boardwalk.This is much better than 8/5 job.Not sure if it`s still there.Quote: ahiromuSigh, Trump Plaza it is then. All of their VP is so shitty and I feel so guilty playing 8/5... even if it's for quarters and like $20 a day.
The mountain is tall but grass grows on top of the mountain.
December 22nd, 2013 at 11:56:43 AM
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Quote: HunterhillThey used to have a $1 3 coin aces and faces,to the right, around the corner at the top of the escalator coming from the boardwalk.This is much better than 8/5 job.Not sure if it`s still there.
Probably long gone. Vp free says the only 99% games left are at the $2 level. They made a comment back in 2012 that quarter ddb was 9/5. If so, that's better than 8/5 job.
December 22nd, 2013 at 12:00:59 PM
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It was there around 4 months ago.Quote: tringlomaneProbably long gone. Vp free says the only 99% games left are at the $2 level. They made a comment back in 2012 that quarter ddb was 9/5. If so, that's better than 8/5 job.
The mountain is tall but grass grows on top of the mountain.
December 22nd, 2013 at 12:07:40 PM
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Quote: HunterhillIt was there around 4 months ago.
Well I guess no one at vpfree cares about the place then, not uncommon.
