ChumpChange
Posted by ChumpChange
Jun 04, 2022

Whack-A-Mole System for Craps Box Numbers

Whack-A-Mole System for Craps Box Numbers (there must be another name, but dice is just another name for a way to lose)
Turning $360 to $3685 - Casino Quest - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vglkoE9GnA4

$30 on the 4 & 10; $60 on the 5 & 9; $90 on the 6 & 8 = $360 buy-in per shooter, 5-10X+ buy-in preferred

If a number hits, move the bet to its sister number
If the sister number hits, move the bet to the most inside number left, split if both of those are available.
If you get all 6 numbers, count your winnings and rebet the $360 across 6 numbers.
Yes you can win twice in one hand and it could make you over $3K.


$90 on the 6 pays $105, move the $90 bet to the 8.
$180 on the 8 pays $210, split $90 to the 5 & 9 each.
$150 on the 5 pays $210, move the $150 to the 9
$300 on the 9 pays $420, move $150 to the 4 & 10 each.
$180 on the 4 pays $351, move the $180 to the 10
$360 on the 10 pays $702. Rebet all box numbers as before.
Total win is $1,998 Possible to raise bets to next level on each 6 point win.
It may pay different depending on how numbers roll and bets move, but you always have $360 on the felt.

Comments

tuttigym
tuttigym Jun 05, 2022

So, it looks like the dice know which number to show, the sequence, and the avoidance of a 7 out. Do you suppose that rather than DI/DC, mind control of inanimate objects is at play here? Is there a school for this? I might be willing to fund a web site and seminars and advertising. One other thing, how many times in a row can one produce this gambit, and can one convert it to roulette too?



tuttigym

ChumpChange
Posted by ChumpChange
May 31, 2022

Field Bet Parlay Winner!

🔥BIGGEST WIN EVER! NEW LEADER!🔥 30 Roll Craps Challenge - WIN BIG or BUST #158 - Casino Quest - 34.1K subscribers - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT_GXoIFim8

Casino Quest - 30 Roll Craps Challenge - New Leader - May 30, 2022
$300 to start. $4060 was the previous high score.
Roll #, Roll Dice, Bet
0 N/A Off the table
N/A $60 lay on 4, 5, 9, 10 for the come-out, vig on win. $1 + $1 dealer bet on PL
1 6 $25 on the 5, 9 & $30 on the 8 & $25 on the Field. Lays down. $25 odds on PL
2 9 Field pressed to $50. 9 pays $35, same bet, profit $35.
3 3 Field pressed to $100
4 9 Field pressed to $200. 9 pressed to $50, profit $10
5 10 Field pressed to $400 (16 units).
6 4 Field same bet $400. Profit $400.
7 10 Field pressed to $800 (32 units). $1 dealer bet on the 12
8 4 Field pressed to $1600 (64 units). $1 dealer bet on the 12
9 2 Field pays triple on the 2 at this table. $4800 from dealer tray. Profit $4800. Same bet.
10 9 $1600 win on Field, pulls all but $1K off, profit $2.2K. 9 is pressed to $100, profit $20
11 7 Lose $1K on Field, lose all other bets. Total profit is $7,465 - $139 = $7,326
12 5 Lay the 4, 10 for $100 & the 5, 9 for $120. $11 + $1 dealer bet on PL. Lose $120 on the 5.
$60 on the 6, 8, & $50 on the 9. $50 odds on the 5 & $6 dealer odds. $25 Field
13 5 PL wins $75 odds + $11 + Dealer $9 + $1. FB loses.
14 5 $120 lay on 4, 5, 9, 10; PBs are up but Off. 5 lay loses.
15 3 $25 Field, lays down, PB's On. FB wins
16 12 Field pressed to $50. FB wins 3X or $150.
17 7 Field pressed to $200. Lose all bets.
18 8 Lay the 4, 5, 9, 10 for $60 each.$6 on the PL + $1 dealer bet.
PB $50 on the 5, 9 & $60 on the 6. $25 on the Field. Lays down.
19 11 Field wins, pressed to $50
20 7 All bets lose.
21 7 Lay $30 on 4, 5, 9, 10. $11 PL + $1 Dealer bet. Lay bets win $66 after vig. PL wins.
22 10 Lay for $60 on 4, 5, 9, 10. $11 PL + $1 Dealer bet. Lay 10 loses.
PB $50 on the 5, 9 & $60 on the 6. $25 on the Field. Lays down.
23 9 Field wins. 9 pays $70, pressed to $100, profit $20
24 9 Field pressed to $50. 9 pays $140, pressed to $200, profit $40
25 6 $50 Field loses. 6 pays $70, Field rebet at $50, $20 profit.
26 N/A Dice off
26 5 $50 Field loses, 5 pays $70, Field rebet at $50, $20 profit. Iron Cross on steroids.
27 5 $50 Field loses, 5 pays $70, Field rebet at $50, $20 profit. Iron Cross on steroids.
28 9 $50 wins. 9 pays $280. Field pressed to $380
29 5 $380 Field bet loses. 5 wins $70. Field rebet $125.
30 12 Field wins $375.

Dealer tips total $52
Louis V.D. colored up at $7,718, $300 starting stake.

I might have missed a few PL bets near the end because the chips weren't legible and it didn't matter.

Comments

smoothgrh
smoothgrh Jun 02, 2022

That's a lot of work to transcribe the session! Thanks for doing that. (I can't say I'm going to follow it all in detail, though.)

ChumpChange
Posted by ChumpChange
May 20, 2022

New Video BJ Game adds session points

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There's a new Blackjack game at my casino. It's buried in a multigame bank of machines that just arrived. The other half of the bank of machines is out of service because they didn't have a license according to the error screen. This version of video blackjack pays 2 for 1 on BJ's and 6 card 21 or less also automatically wins. Doubling is only allowed on 10 or 11, not soft numbers. Split only once, no doubling on splits. Only one card on split aces. There's a 5 coin betting limit, because there's plenty of video poker to choose from here. I thought I'd bet 2 coins or 4 coins in hopes of getting paid correctly for a BJ, but I was wrong. The guy next to me was playing Cleopatra Keno and the noise was just unnerving. So this BJ game seems like a real loser from the HA standpoint. But in the short term, I'm putting in $40 and betting $2; when I get to $46 I raise my bet to $4; when I get to $80, I change the denom from $1 to $2 and my credits change from 80 to 40 and I repeat. Now I could play until I get to 100 credits and then change the denom to $5 and start over at 40 credits again. But tonight I stayed at $2 denom and betting 4 credits and racked it up to 150 credits! I paused for a moment to think about whether I should cash-out, I didn't, and the machine took me down to $0 ASAP. I lowered my bets along the way, but the machine was on a revenge tour. I racked up nearly $40 in session points in 2 hours, but 50% of them disappeared by the time I got to the kiosk. It was $3 per point before the discount.
I took a walk, and got a soda and came back to a different machine. It ate my 2nd $40 pretty quick, within 90 session points, so I put in another $40. I had better luck this time and repeated what happened the first time and racked it up to $300, then cashed out for closing time. I'm sure I played over $14K worth of coin-in in less than 3 hours, and it was good enough to nearly double my coin-in for all time (bubble craps is such a slow game in comparison), and my tier advanced, but my tier points reset to zero twice a year and that means again in a few weeks. I get to keep my rewards points good for a Smashburger meal, and this game can get me there on each trip if they don't tighten it down like all new games get tightened down within a month.
If I can turn $40 into $750 soon, I could get a buy-in on a real $15 BJ table.

I came back the next day and lost 5x $40 buy-ins. The first two $40 buy-ins lasted me 2 hours and added up to 2,000 session points, 1,000 tier points, which I will need in the second half of this year to keep my tier 2nd from bottom. If I was winning like expected, I just need 80,000 session points, 40,000 tier points, to get to the 3rd from bottom tier. I almost thought that would be possible given my beginner's luck the previous night, but that's all it was. I'm quitting this game because of continued losses. If I can win on bubble craps enough to get a buy-in on a $15 table (craps or BJ), I'll have to get table points for my meals & tiers. I may sneak in a session or two on the VBJ game to get points twice a year for the tier.

I thought about playing video poker for a $20 meal, I'd have to coin in $12K to get $20, and coin-in $24K to get $20 of free play. At $1.25 per spin on a quarter machine, that'd be 9600 spins for a $20 meal and 19,200 spins for the $20 free play. I'd do so much better on video BJ to get points where I can get 2K to 4K of points ($20-$40 in food points or $10-$20 in free play) in 2-4 hours.

Comments

Dieter
Dieter May 21, 2022

Please remember that "Blackjack pays 2 for 1" is an even money award when restated in "to 1" terms.

ChumpChange
ChumpChange Sep 04, 2022

My latest few sessions on the newly moved VBJ machine have been complete disasters. I think I'm done with this machine, even if playing for points. Last night I put in $40 for $2 hands and I lost it all in 41 hands. So that'd be 10 wins, 30 losses and 1 tie, or numbers to that effect. I lost 20 bets in the difference. Even my home game isn't that mad, consistently. Now I could play VP on the same machine and have a much better time and I have. But something is tightened like a one armed bandit in the VBJ section.

ChumpChange
Posted by ChumpChange
Apr 08, 2022

Poker Etiquette vs BJ Ranting

Poker Etiquette, lesson 2 - MarlzTV - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnSVglXVwyk

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ChumpChange
Posted by ChumpChange
Mar 27, 2022

Sick of the HA on PBs, Gone Molly!

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/37046-three-point-molly-is-the-best-beginner-strategy/11/#post845029
If you make $20 buy bets on the 5, you'll get paid $29 if it's vig on a win, $28 if it's just vig which you would get with a place bet anyway.
If you win 300 buy bets, you would have won $8700. If you won 300 place bets, you would have won $8400. If you had won 300 odds bets on the 5, you would have won $9,000. So from $9000, you would be down 15 x $20 bets on the buy bets, and 30 x $20 bets down on the place bets. If you were betting $6,000 (300 bets x $20) on the pass line too (with single odds), you'd be down 1.41% of that which is $84.60. So you'll save $515.40 if you bet odds on the 5 instead of place betting in this scenario, and it would be a lot less built-in loss to overcome with your good luck streaks.

If I want to expand this out to the 4, 10, $20 buy bets with vig on a win pay $39, and $20 place bets pay $36. 300 x $39 = $11,700 and 300 x $36 = $10,800 and 300 x $40 (odds payback) = $12,000. So you'll be down 15 x $20 bets for vig on a win but down 60 x $20 bets for the place bet.

If I want to expand this out to the 6, 8, nobody buys bets on the 6, 8 (but they could on bubble craps, but I won't), but since a $20 bet pays $23.33 on bubble craps as a place bet (7/6), 300 x $23.33 = $7,000. If it was odds that would pay $24, so 300 x $24 = $7,200. You'd be down 10 x $20 bets for making place bets instead of odds bets, and the HE on the $20 PL is still less than half of that $200 difference.

If I have 300 PL with single odds bets on the 4/10, another 300 PL with single odds bets on the 5/9, and another 300 PL bets with single odds on the 6/8, I'll have bet $18K on the PL & $18K on the Odds. My expected loss on the PL would be $253.80, multiply that by 30% for comps and there's $76.14 in comps, more like $30 on the bubble craps at 1 cent per $6, or $60 if the machine counted odds bets too.
If I wanted to play place bets for all those numbers (because I don't believe in vigs), I'd be down $1200 (on the 4/10) + $600 (on the 5/9) + $200 (on the 6/8) for a total of $2,000.
If I was doing buy bets on the 4,5,9,10 (like on bubble craps) I'd be down $300 (on the 4/10) + $300 (on the 5/9) + $200 (on the 6/8) for a total of $800.
If I was just doing buy bets on the 4, 10 (like at a table), I'd be down $300 (on the 4/10) + $600 (on the 5/9) + $200 (on the 6/8) for a total of $1,100.
Again, putting all your place bets onto the odds side erases ridiculous amounts of house edge.

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https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/37219-why-does-a-place-bet-on-6-8-pay-7-6/7/
Ace 2 would much rather bet $10 on the PL with $50 odds on the 6/8. The total bet is $60, the total payout is $70, which is the same as a $60 PB 6 or 8. The HA on the PL would be 1.41% * $10 = 14.1 cents; the HA on the $60 PB 6 or 8 would be 1.51% * $60 = 90.6 cents or over 6.425X the HA of his PL bet. He can make six $10 PL bets for less HA than one $60 PB 6 or 8 bet.

If he bet $10 on the PL with $40 odds on the 5/9, the total bet would be $50 and the payout would be $70 (3X, 4X, 5X tables specialize in 7X PL bet payouts). A $50 PB 5/9 would pay $70. The HA for the PL is still 14.1 cents but the HA for the PB 5/9 is 4% * $50 = $2, or 14.18X the HA of his PL bet.

If he bet $10 on the PL with $30 odds on the 4/10, the total bet would be $40 and the payout would be $70. A $40 PB 4/10 would pay $72. A $40 Buy 4/10 would pay $78. Now you're being paid more than the PL with odds, but you're still missing PL come-out action which favors the 7-11 over the craps numbers at $10 a bet. The HA on the PL is still 14.1 cents but the HA for the PB 4/10 which pays $72 is 6.67% * $40 = $2.67 which is 18.93X the HA of the PL.

You have to unplug from Place Bets and Buy Bets to lower the HA to PL bets with full odds.