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May 4th, 2020 at 12:48:44 PM permalink
8,549,176,320

What makes this number unique?
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May 4th, 2020 at 2:35:17 PM permalink
Uses all base-10 digits once
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May 4th, 2020 at 3:07:54 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

Uses all base-10 digits once


Whereas 1,234,567,890 does not?

8,549,176,320 is the only integer greater than 8,549,176,319 and 8.549,176,321


Hint: what makes it unique has nothing to do with mathematics

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May 4th, 2020 at 3:30:14 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Whereas 1,234,567,890 does not?

8,549,176,320 is the only integer greater than 8,549,176,319 and 8.549,176,321


Hint: what makes it unique has nothing to do with mathematics



It has all ten digits in alphabetical order?
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May 4th, 2020 at 4:42:43 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

It has all ten digits in alphabetical order?


Correct!

What can I say? Sometimes ABC really is easy as one, two, three.

gordonm888: 1/2 point for final solve
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May 4th, 2020 at 5:18:45 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

Correct!

What can I say? Sometimes ABC really is easy as one, two, three.

gordonm888: 1/2 point for final solve
Ace2: 1/2 point for key observation



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May 4th, 2020 at 5:29:29 PM permalink
Have you tried 22 tonight? I said 22.
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May 4th, 2020 at 5:32:33 PM permalink
Careful! This one is political...



Your name is Jerry Mander, and you must draw your townís voting districts so that George Greene becomes dogcatcher rather than Barbara Blue. To do that, Greene must win the majority of the cityís five voting districts. Each district comprises three households. This map shows how each of the townís 15 households will vote (the tree represents a park thatís not in any district). The catch: The three households in each district must share at least one border with at least one other household in the district. Can you draw the five districts in a way that guarantees Greene defeats Blue?
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May 4th, 2020 at 5:40:50 PM permalink

Let the districts be numbered 1-5, with P representing the park:
1222
1P35
1435
4435

Green wins districts 2, 4, and 5 by 2-1 margins, while Blue sweeps in 1 and 3

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May 4th, 2020 at 6:00:59 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy


Let the districts be numbered 1-5, with P representing the park:
1222
1P35
1435
4435

Green wins districts 2, 4, and 5 by 2-1 margins, while Blue sweeps in 1 and 3


Correct!

Wow! Quick work. Give ThatDonGuy a cigar and a backroom to smoke it in and who knows what he might achieve.
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May 4th, 2020 at 6:39:42 PM permalink


What playing card completes the puzzle?
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May 6th, 2020 at 6:34:44 AM permalink
Only consider rows.

___________________________

Meanwhile,

Using the numbers 2, 3, 4, and 5, and the symbols + and =, write a true statement. You must use each number and symbol once and only once.
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May 6th, 2020 at 7:14:30 AM permalink
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Only consider rows.

___________________________

Meanwhile,

Using the numbers 2, 3, 4, and 5, and the symbols + and =, write a true statement. You must use each number and symbol once and only once.




32 = 4 + 5
or
24 + 3 = 5
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May 6th, 2020 at 7:26:04 AM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

Quote: Gialmere

Only consider rows.

___________________________

Meanwhile,

Using the numbers 2, 3, 4, and 5, and the symbols + and =, write a true statement. You must use each number and symbol once and only once.




32 = 4 + 5
or
24 + 3 = 5


Correct!

I always liked that little trick.

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May 6th, 2020 at 3:53:15 PM permalink
Here's another one that made a stir a while back. Hopefully it hasn't already been posted.


What fraction of the square is shaded?
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May 6th, 2020 at 4:54:53 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

Here's another one that made a stir a while back. Hopefully it hasn't already been posted.


What fraction of the square is shaded?




I tried to post an image to Imgur, but apparently you can't link directly from Imgur any more.
Anyway, I'll try to describe it...
Let ABCD be the square, with A at the upper left and B at the upper right
Let M be the midpoint of AB
Let X be where AC intersects BM; the shaded triangle is DXC
Let N be the midpoint of CD
Let E and F be on AB and CD, respectively, such that EF goes through X
Assume AB = 2; AM = 1
Let h be the length of EX; FX = 2 - h
MDN is similar to XDF, so XF/FD = MN/ND = 2, and FX = 1 - h/2
ABC is similar to AEX, so AE/EX = AB/BC = 1, which means AE = EX = h, which means FD = h
h = 1 - h/2, so h = 2/3, and 2 - h = 4/3
The area of CXD = 1/2 * (2 - h) * 2 = 4/3
The area of the square is 4, so the fraction = (4/3) / 4 = 1/3

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May 6th, 2020 at 5:14:53 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy


I tried to post an image to Imgur, but apparently you can't link directly from Imgur any more.
Anyway, I'll try to describe it...
Let ABCD be the square, with A at the upper left and B at the upper right
Let M be the midpoint of AB
Let X be where AC intersects BM; the shaded triangle is DXC
Let N be the midpoint of CD
Let E and F be on AB and CD, respectively, such that EF goes through X
Assume AB = 2; AM = 1
Let h be the length of EX; FX = 2 - h
MDN is similar to XDF, so XF/FD = MN/ND = 2, and FX = 1 - h/2
ABC is similar to AEX, so AE/EX = AB/BC = 1, which means AE = EX = h, which means FD = h
h = 1 - h/2, so h = 2/3, and 2 - h = 4/3
The area of CXD = 1/2 * (2 - h) * 2 = 4/3
The area of the square is 4, so the fraction = (4/3) / 4 = 1/3


Correct!

Another quick solve for TDG!
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May 6th, 2020 at 6:36:56 PM permalink
I didn't see a solution to the card puzzle? I can't figure it out.
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May 6th, 2020 at 8:15:45 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

Here's another one that made a stir a while back. Hopefully it hasn't already been posted.


What fraction of the square is shaded?






Length of square =1,
Equation of slanting line 1 : y = 2x
Equation of slanting line 2 : y = -x + 1

Find Intersection point :-
2x = -x +1
x = 1/3, y = 2/3

Shaded area = 2/3 * 1 * 1/2 = 1/3
Square area = 1

Fraction = 1/3 / 1 = 1/3

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May 7th, 2020 at 5:58:43 AM permalink
Quote: ssho8



Length of square =1,
Equation of slanting line 1 : y = 2x
Equation of slanting line 2 : y = -x + 1

Find Intersection point :-
2x = -x +1
x = 1/3, y = 2/3

Shaded area = 2/3 * 1 * 1/2 = 1/3
Square area = 1

Fraction = 1/3 / 1 = 1/3


Correct!

Your logic is easier to follow.
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May 7th, 2020 at 6:04:29 AM permalink
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Quote: rsactuary

I didn't see a solution to the card puzzle? I can't figure it out.


Quote: Gialmere



What playing card completes the puzzle?


It's a toughie and still in play...


Hint #1: Only consider rows.

Hint #2: Consider the first three cards and then the fourth card.

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Meanwhile,

At a party, everyone shook hands with everybody else. There were 66 handshakes. How many people were at the party?
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May 7th, 2020 at 6:34:16 AM permalink
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Meanwhile,

At a party, everyone shook hands with everybody else. There were 66 handshakes. How many people were at the party?

12
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May 7th, 2020 at 6:51:23 AM permalink
Quote: Ace2

Quote: Gialmere


Meanwhile,

At a party, everyone shook hands with everybody else. There were 66 handshakes. How many people were at the party?

12


Correct!

Move over TDG. Ace2 has the new speed record!

("False" would also be acceptable since there are no parties and, if there were, no one would be shaking hands.)
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May 7th, 2020 at 6:55:49 AM permalink
I will assume that an ace's value is one. Then the final card is the 2 of hearts.
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May 7th, 2020 at 7:05:49 AM permalink
Quote: ChesterDog

I will assume that an ace's value is one. Then the final card is the 2 of hearts.


Close but no cigar.
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May 7th, 2020 at 7:20:44 AM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

Quote: ChesterDog

I will assume that an ace's value is one. Then the final card is the 2 of hearts.


Close but no cigar.



Then I will have to go with the 6 of hearts. The straight flush in diamonds must be a clue.
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May 7th, 2020 at 7:53:52 AM permalink
Quote: ChesterDog

Quote: Gialmere

Quote: ChesterDog

I will assume that an ace's value is one. Then the final card is the 2 of hearts.


Close but no cigar.



Then I will have to go with the 6 of hearts. The straight flush in diamonds must be a clue.


Still close. Still no cigar.
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May 7th, 2020 at 7:56:22 AM permalink
Card puzzle answer



3 of heart ?

Mod 10 (total of three highest point card in a row) = lowest point card. Consider Ace is one point.

Meanwhile, just to inform that I am a "serious" Baccarat player ! LOL

If Q is consider 12 points, then the better answer is Q of heart.

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May 7th, 2020 at 8:34:49 AM permalink
Quote: ssho88

Card puzzle answer



3 of heart ?

Mod 10 (total of three highest point card in a row) = lowest point card. Consider Ace is one point.

Meanwhile, just to inform that I am a "serious" Baccarat player ! LOL

If Q is consider 12 points, then the better answer is Q of heart.



...in a different way; the rank is the arithmetic mean of the values of the first three cards, and the suit is the one that is not already in the row


Meanwhile, here's another question: where can I go to post images that I can link here? As I said earlier, Imgur no longer seems to allow this.
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May 7th, 2020 at 8:43:23 AM permalink
Quote: ssho88

Card puzzle answer



3 of heart ?

Mod 10 (total of three highest point card in a row) = lowest point card. Consider Ace is one point.

Meanwhile, just to inform that I am a "serious" Baccarat player ! LOL

If Q is consider 12 points, then the better answer is Q of heart.


I'm not sure of your logic, but your answer is...

Correct!

This is one of the toughest of this type of puzzle I've ever seen.

The pattern is the fourth card in a row is equal to the average of the first three cards and each suit must be represented.


Marriage is like a deck of cards. In the beginning all you need is two hearts and a diamond. By the end you wish you had a club and spade.
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May 7th, 2020 at 8:48:02 AM permalink
Ah. I now see ThatDonGuy does have the pattern!
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May 7th, 2020 at 9:19:01 AM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

Quote: ssho88

Card puzzle answer



3 of heart ?

Mod 10 (total of three highest point card in a row) = lowest point card. Consider Ace is one point.

Meanwhile, just to inform that I am a "serious" Baccarat player ! LOL

If Q is consider 12 points, then the better answer is Q of heart.


I'm not sure of your logic, but your answer is...

Correct!

This is one of the toughest of this type of puzzle I've ever seen.

The pattern is the fourth card in a row is equal to the average of the first three cards and each suit must be represented.


Marriage is like a deck of cards. In the beginning all you need is two hearts and a diamond. By the end you wish you had a club and spade.




1st row : Mod 10( 7+10+7)= 4 = lowest point card of the row

2nd row : Mod 10( 10+8+8)= 6 = lowest point card of the row

3rd row : Mod 10( 2+6+x)= 1 = lowest point card of the row

x = 3

There are three card with same suit, the missing suit is HEART, so answer is 3 of heart.
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May 7th, 2020 at 11:01:25 PM permalink
Let's dial it down a few notches. Relax. Have a beer. Go bowling...



Which pins do you have to knock over to get a total of 100 points?
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May 8th, 2020 at 5:00:20 AM permalink
If I knocked over the 39, the 48, and the 13, I would get exactly 100. It would take a heck of a shot to pick this up and not knock over any other pins, but not impossible. Besides, it looks like I took out the 1-2-3 pins without knocking any of the other ones down on my first shot, so there shouldn't be a problem converting the 5-7-9 on my second, right?
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May 8th, 2020 at 6:50:23 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman

If I knocked over the 39, the 48, and the 13, I would get exactly 100. It would take a heck of a shot to pick this up and not knock over any other pins, but not impossible. Besides, it looks like I took out the 1-2-3 pins without knocking any of the other ones down on my first shot, so there shouldn't be a problem converting the 5-7-9 on my second, right?


Correct!

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May 8th, 2020 at 6:57:34 AM permalink
Eh? Bowling was too easy? Well, try some archery...

At an archery tournament, the winner scored exactly one hundred points.The scores on the target are: 16, 17, 23, 24, 39 and 40.Can you figure out how many arrows the winner must have used to accomplish the feat?
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May 8th, 2020 at 7:59:47 AM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

Eh? Bowling was too easy? Well, try some archery...

At an archery tournament, the winner scored exactly one hundred points.The scores on the target are: 16, 17, 23, 24, 39 and 40.Can you figure out how many arrows the winner must have used to accomplish the feat?



Six - two 16s and four 17s

Mod 8, the values are 0, 1, 7, 0, 7, 0, and the sum mod 8 = 4
A solution of 4 arrows would be four 1s or four 7s
4 x 17 = 68
4 x 23 = 92
Replacing any 23 with a 39 makes it more than 100
Therefore, there is no 4-arrow solution

A solution of 5 arrows would be a zero and four 1s, or a zero and four 7s
4 x 17 + 16 = 84
4 x 17 + 24 = 92
4 x 17 + 40 = 108
The smallest sum of four 7s and a zero is 4 x 23 + 16 = 108
Therefore, there is no 5-arrow solution either

The smallest solution with seven or more arrows is 7 x 16 = 112, so any solution must be 6 arrows

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May 8th, 2020 at 4:13:32 PM permalink
Letís say youíre betting on a coin flip and you get paid $300 if you call it correctly on the first toss, $150 if you call it on the second toss, $100 for the third, $75 for the fourth, and so on. The game ends when you call a toss correctly.

This game costs $250 to play. Whatís the house edge ?
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May 8th, 2020 at 4:41:18 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

Letís say youíre betting on a coin flip and you get paid $300 if you call it correctly on the first toss, $150 if you call it on the second toss, $100 for the third, $75 for the fourth, and so on. The game ends when you call a toss correctly.

This game costs $250 to play. Whatís the house edge ?



I need more info about the "and so on", as the payments don't follow a progression. If the game were to end after the 4th toss, I get a house edge of 29.6875%.
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May 8th, 2020 at 4:51:17 PM permalink
They do follow a progression.

1st toss $300 / 1
2nd toss $300 / 2
3rd toss $300 / 3
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May 8th, 2020 at 5:23:44 PM permalink
indeed they do! lol

i get 42.06%?
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May 8th, 2020 at 6:08:15 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

They do follow a progression.

1st toss $300 / 1
2nd toss $300 / 2
3rd toss $300 / 3



HE =( 250 - 0.5(100) - 0.5(300) )/ 250 = 50/250 = 20%

I will show calculations if my answer is correct.
Last edited by: ssho88 on May 8, 2020
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May 8th, 2020 at 6:13:21 PM permalink
Quote: ssho88

HE =( 250 - 0.5(100) - 0.5(300) )/ 250 = 50/250 = 20%

I will show calculations if my answer is correct.



You forgot the "and so on" part.... it goes forever until you call it right.... and I think you have a math error as well.
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May 8th, 2020 at 6:45:19 PM permalink
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You forgot the "and so on" part.... it goes forever until you call it right.... and I think you have a math error as well.



My new answer



1) When you call it correctly on first flip(p)

Return = p * $300 = 0.5 *300 = 150

2) When you call it wrongly on first flip(q)

p =0.5, q =0.5

So return = qp(300/2)+ q^2p(300/3) + q^3p(300/4) + . . . . .
= 0.5^2(300/2) + 0.5^3(300/3) + 0.5^4(300/4)+ . . . . + 0.5^n(300/n) ----->convergence series
= 300* ln(2) - 150 = 57.94415


HE = (250 - 150 - 57.94415)/250 = 16.82%
Last edited by: ssho88 on May 8, 2020
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May 8th, 2020 at 7:21:49 PM permalink
Quote: ssho88

My new answer



1) When you call it correctly on first flip(p)

Return = p * $300 = 0.5 *300 = 150

2) When you call it wrongly on first flip(q)

p =0.5, q =0.5

So return = qp(300/2)+ q^2p(300/3) + q^3p(300/4) + . . . . .
= 0.5^2(300/2) + 0.5^3(300/3) + 0.5^4(300/4)+ . . . . + 0.5^n(300/n) ----->convergence series
= 300* ln(2) - 150 = 57.94415


HE = (250 - 150 - 57.94415)/250 = 16.82%



I agree with your return, it's what I calculated. Not sure I agree with your HE calculation.
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May 8th, 2020 at 7:24:56 PM permalink
It looks like you both got it right!

16.8%
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May 8th, 2020 at 7:25:40 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

Quote: ssho88

My new answer



1) When you call it correctly on first flip(p)

Return = p * $300 = 0.5 *300 = 150

2) When you call it wrongly on first flip(q)

p =0.5, q =0.5

So return = qp(300/2)+ q^2p(300/3) + q^3p(300/4) + . . . . .
= 0.5^2(300/2) + 0.5^3(300/3) + 0.5^4(300/4)+ . . . . + 0.5^n(300/n) ----->convergence series
= 300* ln(2) - 150 = 57.94415


HE = (250 - 150 - 57.94415)/250 = 16.82%



I agree with your return, it's what I calculated. Not sure I agree with your HE calculation.





My HE definition = (COST - RETURN)/COST.
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May 8th, 2020 at 7:26:30 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

Letís say youíre betting on a coin flip and you get paid $300 if you call it correctly on the first toss, $150 if you call it on the second toss, $100 for the third, $75 for the fourth, and so on. The game ends when you call a toss correctly.

This game costs $250 to play. Whatís the house edge ?



I can't prove it, yet, but I can see that the house edge = 1 - ln(2).

Edit: I forgot, it costs only $250 to play, so the house edge should be 1 - (6/5)ln2.


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May 8th, 2020 at 7:33:00 PM permalink
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Itís all about making that GTA

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