DrEntropy
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November 15th, 2011 at 9:32:25 AM permalink
Some casinos clearly have hired only very attractive cocktail waitresses. For example, the M. Others have a mix... (no example to protect the innocent) Does anyone know why this is? Are some "union shops" and so have to hire anyone, and others have some way around discriminating based on appearance? Someone told me (rumor) that the M hired their waitresses as "Models" to avoid issues...

I am not complaining, just curious!
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November 15th, 2011 at 9:46:35 AM permalink
I was under the impression that it's acceptable to discriminate when hiring - as long as the overall workforce mix is well balanced.

However, the model classification might be used as justification for terminating or reassigning a person as they age or lose their figure.
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FleaStiff
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November 15th, 2011 at 9:51:04 AM permalink
Some are indeed union shops. In "old" Vegas girls would get hired based on their "assets" and it was Benny Binion who put up a chart showing what was needed for each shift. At least he was unafraid to put it up on the wall rather than mere rumors.

I don't know of any place that has dubbed CWs models but many have tried to emphasize that mere ability to make and serve drinks is not sufficient to retain employment.

Many 'tradeshow models' or the like are hired where the gig is simple: look great, smile, and don't ever think the job will last longer than your looks.

Even male dealers have to pay attention to personal grooming and may have to invest in substantial dental care as they age. Its a public contact job and any time the economy is soft, job security is non-existent.
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November 15th, 2011 at 10:20:39 AM permalink
As a newer place, my guess is that the M offered a stronger tip/wage/benefit package to attract more applicants, then was just more picky in their selection. As their workforce ages, I don't think they will be able to release folks due to age discrimination laws.

Other joints have less physically attractive women due to lower tip/wage/benefits (making the applicant pool smaller), and older women, due to employees being longer on the job. Were the original CW's when the Mirage opened in 1989 let go when they hit 35? Again, just my guess.
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November 15th, 2011 at 11:49:18 AM permalink
Let me first say that cocktail waitresses are angels in disguise. Nothing so sweet as the siren call as they float through the casino, offering to come to the aid of the thirsty gambler.

I think some places just have different priorities. I was playing at MSS last summer and asked the dealer when MSS was going to install a stripper pole in the pit like so many of the other downtown casinos. Her answer was: "Look around at the dealers here. Do you think we're trying to sell sex with these older dealers? Do you think that's why the players come here?". She's right. They go after the older more established gambler who's after a good game rather then the young hip crowd that wants loud music and something shaking in his face.
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November 15th, 2011 at 11:52:40 AM permalink
Some Atlantic City CW's filed suit against Resorts after they were terminated on the basis of not meeing "uniform requirements". Fitting into a "uniform", could be the mechanism to get around union procedures and discrimination laws.
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November 15th, 2011 at 12:13:28 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Some Atlantic City CW's filed suit against Resorts after they were terminated on the basis of not meeing "uniform requirements". Fitting into a "uniform", could be the mechanism to get around union procedures and discrimination laws.



Nine of them are being represented by Gloria Allred. That should be interesting.
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November 15th, 2011 at 12:35:07 PM permalink
When In Vegas, I always make a point of stopping by The Orleans to play some craps...only becasue that was the first casino I ever stayed at....so it brings back memories! And maybe its just me, but there are always super hot waitresses at The Orleans.
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November 15th, 2011 at 3:13:17 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Some Atlantic City CW's filed suit against Resorts after they were terminated on the basis of not meeing "uniform requirements". Fitting into a "uniform", could be the mechanism to get around union procedures and discrimination laws.

Not exaggerating, I was served a cocktail at Resorts by the homeliest yet thin waitress I've ever encountered. I still have nightmares.
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November 15th, 2011 at 3:18:21 PM permalink
The uniform requirements listing often specifies certain sizes but its usually the listing of various items that make it clear the display of the female anatomy is the priority involved. Laced boots, lacy sleeves, garters, etc. its often some "uniform".

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