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October 22nd, 2011 at 9:46:49 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I can vouch that if you move here any magic quickly wears off, and you start to loathe having to go to the Strip, or even cross it. Having also worked at Disneyland, sweeping and emptying trash, I can never return and enjoy it. When I take my kids there I am constantly scanning the ground for a piece of popcorn and fighting the urge to check how full the trash cans are. Especially the trash can by the entrance to the Matterhorn, where everybody had to dump their drinks before boarding the bobsleds. That would fill up in no time on a hot summer day.




Close, but my word describing the strip is tragic. Love to come to Vegas, but the strip is nonexistent for me.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 10:02:42 AM permalink
Quote: helpmespock

I'm with you on energy. To quote a buddy, "Gambling is only fun in Vegas". We have government run casinos here in Ontario, Canada, but they just don't have the same feel when gambling as you get in Las Vegas.



We can probably all agree that the Strip is more exciting on a crowded Saturday night than on an empty Tuesday night. On the other hand, I'd still rather be on the Strip on a boring Tuesday night than at a California Indian casino on a crowded Saturday night. (Hell, I'd even rather be in sad downtown Reno than at a sparkling new California Indian casino. But that's because I like craps tables that use actual dice.)

Question for folks on the East Coast: is the energy in Atlantic City more exciting than at a casino in Connecticut or Pennsylvania?
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October 22nd, 2011 at 10:40:53 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I can vouch that if you move here any magic quickly wears off, and you start to loathe having to go to the Strip, or even cross it.


+1
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October 22nd, 2011 at 10:43:06 AM permalink
I'd rather be at Red Rock or Santa Fe Station than either of your choices. I found alternatives to the strip or Indian casino right smack dab in Las Vegas, itself. I wouldn't mind being stuck at Reno Silver Legacy.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 11:42:08 AM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

If I've dropped twenty dollars on a burger, I want to taste the burger not someone else's smoke.



If you spend that much on a burger, you should be worrying about some things a lot more important than a little tobacco smoke.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 11:55:02 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

If you spend that much on a burger, you should be worrying about some things a lot more important than a little tobacco smoke.



I wanted to say that. How much better can a $20 burger be than an $8 buffet with good food you can select at will? Me and Nareed are a little square.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 12:29:45 PM permalink
Where are you guys getting $20 burgers on the Strip? Last time I ate anywhere there that wasn't a buffet I paid $50.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 12:30:53 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I can vouch that if you move here any magic quickly wears off, and you start to loathe having to go to the



Yup. I visited Hawaii in the early 70's and loved it. I moved
there a few years later. The beauty quickly wears thin and
I was left with the same old day to day life I had before.
I left after 6 months hating the place and haven't been back since.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 12:34:32 PM permalink
Quote: dm

NEVER thought it would happen, but............good post



You see these people on the airport shuttle when
they leave Vegas. They're exhausted, they've
slept 12 hours in 3 days, lost all their money
and didn't do half of what they intended. Its
really ridiculous.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 3:04:46 PM permalink
Quote: dm

I wanted to say that. How much better can a $20 burger be than an $8 buffet with good food you can select at will? Me and Nareed are a little square.



Had a great one at the MGM Cafe.. $17, with drink if I recall.

I prefer my food cooked fresh to order. I don't mind a buffet once on a trip (the Silverton got my business last trip), but last time I had a $8 buffet on the strip I felt ill the rest of the day. If you've had good ones, and its something you like, all good by me.

The "I love burgers" in Venetian was about same price, and my friends said it was a damn fine piece of beef.

But if some ignoramus decided a "little tobacco smoke" wasn't a problem when I was there for tasting food rather than someone's inability to keep their addiction in check for a while, then I'd think they were an arrogant, pompous jerk off. I'll spend my money how I please, and if I get value out of a twenty buck burger meal... but when I eat a burger, I don't flick pieces of the meat at you.

Smoking in a restaurant is like having someone constantly shouting about how you should play your hand at blackjack. Great way to spoil your entertainment.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 5:18:05 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

I prefer my food cooked fresh to order.



Well, it does take courage to order ground meat from unknown sources.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 5:38:03 PM permalink
Quote: dm

Close, but my word describing the strip is tragic. Love to come to Vegas, but the strip is nonexistent for me.

You say tragic, I say magic.

Quote: EvenBob

Yup. I visited Hawaii in the early 70's and loved it. I moved
there a few years later. The beauty quickly wears thin and
I was left with the same old day to day life I had before.
I left after 6 months hating the place and haven't been back since.

I visited Hawai'i once. So nice there. I can't imagine moving there and hating it. I moved to L.A. from Chicago over 15 years ago and I STILL love it here. I still love Chicago but refuse to live there because of the weather.

Quote: EvenBob

You see these people on the airport shuttle when
they leave Vegas. They're exhausted, they've
slept 12 hours in 3 days, lost all their money
and didn't do half of what they intended. Its
really ridiculous.

Lol, that sounds like me!! Except I usually win. (Knock on wood.)
Quote: thecesspit

Smoking in a restaurant is like having someone constantly shouting about how you should play your hand at blackjack. Great way to spoil your entertainment.

I do have to put my 2 cents in here. I myself don't like to smoke and don't prefer to smell like smoke from the people who smoke around me. However... I find it crazy annoying the people who COMPLAIN about cigarette smoke then I do the smokers themselves. I'm trying to contain my anger here but for those of you who don't like cigarette smoke GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!! My God, do people not take responsibility for their actions any more? If you dot like breathing in smoke then stop hanging out at places where people smoke. Period. It's like a vegan trying to eat a meal at a steak house. "Ew, gross! It smells like dead flesh in here!" Then go eat the f**k somewhere else!!!!

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October 22nd, 2011 at 5:52:30 PM permalink
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I'm trying to contain my anger here but for those of you who don't like cigarette smoke GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!!



Hear, hear!

But the problem is that many people have a fetish for smoke-free places. It's not enough to hang around such places, they want the world to be smoke-free.

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My God, do people not take responsibility for their actions any more?



A few still do.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 5:56:09 PM permalink
Quote:

I myself don't like to smoke and don't prefer to smell like smoke from the people who smoke around me. However... I find it crazy annoying the people who COMPLAIN about cigarette smoke then I do the smokers themselves. I'm trying to contain my anger here but for those of you who don't like cigarette smoke GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!! My God, do people not take responsibility for their actions any more? If you dot like breathing in smoke then stop hanging out at places where people smoke. Period. It's like a vegan trying to eat a meal at a steak house. "Ew, gross! It smells like dead flesh in here!" Then go eat the f**k somewhere else!!!!

Sorry, people who complain to me are so annoying!!



I wouldn't eat somewhere someone is smoking, or a place that allowed smoking. Thats taking responsibility, right?

I'd be mighty pissed of if I sat down in what looked to be a non-smoking restaurant and someone lit up next to me. But otherwise, it's okay by me to have smoking restaurants.

I really don't mind smoke elsewhere, no problem at all with it in a bar, or casino, or on the street.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 7:05:47 PM permalink
Quote: heather

Where are you guys getting $20 burgers on the Strip? Last time I ate anywhere there that wasn't a buffet I paid $50.


Do they still have that $777.00 burger on the Strip? Le Burger Brasserie in Paris?
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October 22nd, 2011 at 7:20:42 PM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde

Lol, that sounds like me!! Except I usually win. (Knock on wood.)

That's because the other poker players don't get to look at their cards.

As to smoking, some corporate analyst hinted that Aliante Station's smoke free bingo room was an indication that the property was Harrah's experimental laboratory.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 7:21:10 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Do they still have that $777.00 burger on the Strip? Le Burger Brasserie in Paris?



Kobe beef, with some sort of caviar and a truffle?

There's several ways to make a burger expensive including eating off gold plates I suppose.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 7:26:34 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Do they still have that $777.00 burger on the Strip? Le Burger Brasserie in Paris?

Don't know anything about a $777 burger, but the Burger Brasserie never seemed particularly outlandish to me. Last time I ate there (June), my wife and I had a combined bill of $45 including tip, according to my credit card record. I suspect we had burgers, but I don't remember what else. My wife probably had a glass of wine, and we probably had a $5 coupon from the hotel. Not a $5 burger place, but not out of sight. Cheaper anyway than the dinner I bought at a Longhorn tonight near home.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 7:38:23 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Kobe beef, with some sort of caviar and a truffle?

There's several ways to make a burger expensive including eating off gold plates I suppose.



Here and there you find restaurants that put a little gold leaf on food, usually on desserts. I recall an alcoholic beverage of some sort with tiny gold flakes in it. Gold isn't very reactive, so it's safe to eat in small amounts. But too much of it can give you heavy metal poisoning.

But simply adding expensive ingredients is a gimmick. I suppose snobs like it.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 8:10:25 PM permalink
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Here and there you find restaurants that put a little gold leaf on food, usually on desserts.



I've seen that. Usually some gold shavings sprinkled on cake. Let me say that I find that wasteful. How many tons of dirt have to be excavated and processed to produce one ounce of gold? And for what? As far as I know, gold doesn't have a taste. You could accomplish the same thing with fake gold shavings.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 8:33:13 PM permalink
I had gold caviar at the Japenese restaurant (Nobu?) at Hard Rock. It was caviar with gold leaf inside - complete waste of extravagance in my view.

The meal, which consisted of 7 small dishes, came to $250 - luckily it was comped. With me not being a fan of Sushi-style food, I left the restaurant looking for a McDonalds so that I could quickly curb my hunger.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 9:07:51 PM permalink
I just noticed that the poll suggested "pirates" as an option under Spectacle. I was under the impression that they were long gone. Are they doing it again? I never did like the show they switched to, but I'm a woman and thus clearly not in the target demographic there.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 9:42:40 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I've seen that. Usually some gold shavings sprinkled on cake. Let me say that I find that wasteful. How many tons of dirt have to be excavated and processed to produce one ounce of gold?



If it makes you feel any better, the gold wasn't mined specifically to be thrown away. Also gold is one of the most malleable metals. Gold leaf is thinner than aluminum foil, so the amounts used are tiny.

But it is a complete waste. I agree. All it produces is bragging rights and expensive waste.

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As far as I know, gold doesn't have a taste.



I don't recall for sure, but probably not.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 9:48:51 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

You could accomplish the same thing with fake gold shavings.

I think the medicinal effect depends upon it being real gold. Though I imagine those who take gold flakes in their coffee and not desirous of a medicinal benefit as much as they are desirous of having a trophy coffee to go with their trophy wife or something.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 10:43:00 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

I think the medicinal effect depends upon it being real gold. Though I imagine those who take gold flakes in their coffee and not desirous of a medicinal benefit .


Have enough gold flakes in your coffee and it's like nature's brillo pad. But a barium enema'd be cheaper.

And yes heather, Pirates is gone. Sirens of TI replaced it.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 11:55:11 PM permalink
Quote: heather

the poll suggested "pirates" as an option under Spectacle. I was under the impression that they were long gone.

Yes. Long gone. As Treasure Island morphed into TI, pirate battles diminished and the choreography shifted to sexy sirens. There are oft forgotten attractions: car museums, botanical gardens, art galleries ... all these things tend to blend in my mind. I know the IP has several million dollars worth of cars on display. I've never been to it. To me its not "Vegas relevant". Its like these shows. Some of them have been long running but I don't consider it part of "Vegas", its just part of women dragging men to things they don't want to go to and you get that anywhere, not just in Vegas.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 11:15:07 AM permalink
Quote: zippyboy

And yes heather, Pirates is gone. Sirens of TI replaced it.

Funny cuz all I'm used to is their sexy Sirens performance. There were actual pirates before? Lol. I've been going to Vegas for a long time but I don't remember any pirate fights.

And I do have to say that I'm sad that TI is not a part of MGM any more. That was my favorite place to stay and play. I won't play there any more since I like to keep my play all within the MGM properties for comping purposes. But I'm happy with The Mirage, Bellagio and the MGM Grand hotels/casinos now.

And I was thinking that "CONVENTIONS" could've been an option to vote on as well as far as favorite thing about Vegas. But I guess that's more specific to those who go there for a particular convention. Plus I think the WoV webmaster limits the amount of options we can list in our polls here. :(

Damn! All this talk about Vegas is making me want to head out that way! I was invited out there last week by a member of the forum but I'm saving up to move next month so would not be a good idea to come out at this time.

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October 23rd, 2011 at 11:19:37 AM permalink
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When's the WoV get-together? May?




All signs point to May 12th.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 11:29:21 AM permalink
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All signs point to May 12th.

Yay! My birthday is May 13th. :D
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October 23rd, 2011 at 11:38:48 AM permalink
Quote:

Funny cuz all I'm used to is their sexy Sirens performance. There were actual pirates before? Lol. I've been going to Vegas for a long time but I don't remember any pirate fights.



The pirate show ran for many years, and was much better than the siren show. Then the owners decided to screw up the whole casino. The sirens are embarrassingly bad.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 11:40:46 AM permalink
Pirates would make more sense for the Caribbean, treasure island theme of the joint. But sirens make more sense for Vegas.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 11:42:15 AM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde

And I was thinking that "CONVENTIONS" could've been an option to vote on as well as far as favorite thing about Vegas. But I guess that's more specific to those who go there for a particular convention. Plus I think the WoV webmaster limits the amount of options we can list in our polls here. :(



Vegas is definitely famous for its enormous conventions, but not as a leisure activity for toursits. If I had had more poll options, I would have listed "Spas/Massage" and "Bargains/Free Stuff".

As for me, I personally voted for "Extravagant Hotel Suites." All big city hotels offer suites, but the Vegas ones tend to be both spectacular and affordable (relatively). I stayed at an impressive multi-room suite at Vdara on Super Bowl weekend for $180 per night. I'm sure that a suite of similar caliber in any other big U.S. city would be well over $400 per night, maybe over $1,000 in Midtown Manhattan.

If given the option between spending $180 on either a fancy dinner or a fancy suite, I would always opt for the suite.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 11:46:05 AM permalink
Quote: Keyser

The pirate show ran for many years, and was much better than the siren show. Then the owners decided to screw up the whole casino. The sirens are embarrassingly bad.



The sirens came in before the casino was sold.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 2:16:38 PM permalink
The pirate show was one of my favorite things about the Strip. Search YouTube for videos if you haven't seen it. The pirates sank a government ship every night of the week. It was just awesomely Vegas in the way that the Bugsy Siegel shrine by the pool at the Flamingo is, at least to me.

I've actually seen the car museum at the Imperial Palace. They've got the cult leader Osho Shree Rajneesh's bulletproof avocado-green Rolls Royce limosine with machine gun and tear gas ports. For sale, if you're interested.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 3:23:29 PM permalink
Quote: heather

The pirate show was one of my favorite things about the Strip. Search YouTube for videos if you haven't seen it. The pirates sank a government ship every night of the week. It was just awesomely Vegas in the way that the Bugsy Siegel shrine by the pool at the Flamingo is, at least to me.

wait a sec....

The Bugsy "shrine"? It's little more than a life size torso statue with an about 150 word plaque detailing his Vegas contribution. Unless they updated it since I saw it about 9 years ago.

And didn't the pirates sink that ship several times each night?

My best memory of that show was on tv when they blew up the casino across the street....
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October 23rd, 2011 at 3:24:11 PM permalink
The IP car museum was more impressive 10-15 years ago, but they've sold off many cars since then. I think it used to be one of the largest collections of Duesenbergs under one roof back then. All the cars are for sale btw.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 3:30:12 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

wait a sec....

The Bugsy "shrine"? It's little more than a life size torso statue with an about 150 word plaque detailing his Vegas contribution. Unless they updated it since I saw it about 9 years ago.



Not my words. I only checked it out once, but personally did find it shrinelike. YMMV, of course.
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October 23rd, 2011 at 3:49:20 PM permalink
OK. You're excused for calling it a shrine. My milage may vary? I suppose so. Personally I have trouble calling it a shrine. It's tucked away with no signs. You have to know its there somewhere to find it.

And thanks for the link. I was wondering what the wording was.
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October 24th, 2011 at 8:25:26 AM permalink
The pirates are still there. It's the British Navy that's gone.
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October 24th, 2011 at 9:16:58 AM permalink
The American Revolution took another 200 years to finally eliminate the British Navy from the US, eh? :)
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October 24th, 2011 at 9:18:54 AM permalink
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You say tragic, I say magic.

It only SEEMS like magic how quickly do they make your bankroll disappear. It's just terrible pay tables and hold percentages, not magic at all. But, I'm sure thankful so many people are there and not where I am.

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October 24th, 2011 at 9:46:49 AM permalink
One of my favorite parts of the pirates vs. navy performance occurred after the show ended and as the sunken ship was brought back up. Does everyone remember what happened then?
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October 24th, 2011 at 10:07:11 AM permalink
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Does everyone remember what happened then?

I think that should say anyone.

And you've got my curiosity piqued....
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October 24th, 2011 at 10:51:36 AM permalink
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One of my favorite parts of the pirates vs. navy performance occurred after the show ended and as the sunken ship was brought back up. Does everyone remember what happened then?



You have to watch "Miss Congeniality 2" to find out?

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October 24th, 2011 at 11:07:18 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

And you've got my curiosity piqued....

Here's the way I remember it....

The ship could "sail" a short distance down the lagoon parallel to Las Vegas Boulevard and approach the pirate enclave (where the sirens now maintain control.) The navy ship's captain maintained a haughty, perhaps arrogant, tone throughout, thoroughly disparaging the pirates and acting as if a ship of the royal navy could not be bested by such lowly, unruly creatures. Of course, his ship fell victim and was sunk several times each evening. As the ship went down, the navy hands that had not been killed dove overboard, but the captain maintained his pride and went down with his ship, standing (as I remember it) on the rail and disappearing below the surface. The pirates celebrated, and there were a few more things as the show came to a close.

As the show ended and the crowd began to disperse, it was time to reset the scene for the next episode 90 minutes later. The navy ship was raised from the deep, revealing the captain still standing on the rail. This was perhaps ten minutes after he had gone down with the ship. As the ship neared its final height, the captain would spout water from his mouth in a giant stream before taking a bow, stepping down, and making his exit. Great comedy effect.
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October 24th, 2011 at 11:16:49 AM permalink
Yeah, I remember that now.
I invented a few casino games. Info: http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ ————————————————————————————————————— Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
ThatDonGuy
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October 24th, 2011 at 12:57:45 PM permalink
Food, followed by the Pinball Hall of Fame / Museum, then probably the shows (although I am the sort of person who thinks twice before putting down $75 and up for 90 minutes of entertainment). I'm not a night person, so I'm not usually around the casinos when things pick up.
teddys
teddys
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October 24th, 2011 at 3:49:16 PM permalink
Cheap graveyard specials, casino promotions and come-on's, coupons, getting comps that exceed my expected loss . . . detect a pattern here?
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
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