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AlanMendelson
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September 24th, 2021 at 10:40:39 AM permalink
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Remember, I am a guppy so have no real personal experience with high level comps. But I find it hard to believe there is someone you can ‘call’ at Venetian or Resorts World that will say out loud…. “We will comp you 10% of your actual loss”. Wouldn’t they need to be more vague?

If not, I can round up $1,000,000, bet it on the pass line, win $1,000,000 49% of the time and lose $1,000,000 51% of the time, but get $100,000 in comps? Numbers approximate, concept is valid.

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    you and your wife could each bet 500,000 on opposite sides for an hour and end up owning the joint.
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    Yes and this type of scheme has worked at some places in the past so waaah waaah waaah!
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    No, it won't work at craps. There's a house edge on both sides, and I doubt the comps will erase the house edge.

    Back to the starting point.
    SOOPOO
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    September 24th, 2021 at 10:45:49 AM permalink
    Quote: AlanMendelson

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    Remember, I am a guppy so have no real personal experience with high level comps. But I find it hard to believe there is someone you can ‘call’ at Venetian or Resorts World that will say out loud…. “We will comp you 10% of your actual loss”. Wouldn’t they need to be more vague?

    If not, I can round up $1,000,000, bet it on the pass line, win $1,000,000 49% of the time and lose $1,000,000 51% of the time, but get $100,000 in comps? Numbers approximate, concept is valid.

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    you and your wife could each bet 500,000 on opposite sides for an hour and end up owning the joint.
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    Yes and this type of scheme has worked at some places in the past so waaah waaah waaah!
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    No, it won't work at craps. There's a house edge on both sides, and I doubt the comps will erase the house edge.

    Back to the starting point.
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    Wrong. If the premise is that you get 10% of your ACTUAL loss back in comps, the loser gets $100k in comps.

    In the real world I AGREE with you. That’s why I’m saying NO ONE in authority will categorically guarantee you that 10%. If you bet $5k a hand at baccarat and end up down $100k after a bad run of 4 hours, then of course I could see you being comped $10k, likely more.
    darkoz
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    September 24th, 2021 at 10:57:28 AM permalink
    Quote: AlanMendelson

    Quote: darkoz

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    Remember, I am a guppy so have no real personal experience with high level comps. But I find it hard to believe there is someone you can ‘call’ at Venetian or Resorts World that will say out loud…. “We will comp you 10% of your actual loss”. Wouldn’t they need to be more vague?

    If not, I can round up $1,000,000, bet it on the pass line, win $1,000,000 49% of the time and lose $1,000,000 51% of the time, but get $100,000 in comps? Numbers approximate, concept is valid.

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    you and your wife could each bet 500,000 on opposite sides for an hour and end up owning the joint.
  • link to original post



    Yes and this type of scheme has worked at some places in the past so waaah waaah waaah!
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    No, it won't work at craps. There's a house edge on both sides, and I doubt the comps will erase the house edge.

    Back to the starting point.
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    You doubt wrong.

    In fact it's called doey-don't system and if you can get it past prying eyes (yes that can be done too) it works just fine.
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    AlanMendelson
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    September 24th, 2021 at 11:19:43 AM permalink
    Quote: darkoz

    Quote: AlanMendelson

    Quote: darkoz

    Quote: billryan

    Quote: SOOPOO

    Remember, I am a guppy so have no real personal experience with high level comps. But I find it hard to believe there is someone you can ‘call’ at Venetian or Resorts World that will say out loud…. “We will comp you 10% of your actual loss”. Wouldn’t they need to be more vague?

    If not, I can round up $1,000,000, bet it on the pass line, win $1,000,000 49% of the time and lose $1,000,000 51% of the time, but get $100,000 in comps? Numbers approximate, concept is valid.

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    you and your wife could each bet 500,000 on opposite sides for an hour and end up owning the joint.
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    Yes and this type of scheme has worked at some places in the past so waaah waaah waaah!
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    No, it won't work at craps. There's a house edge on both sides, and I doubt the comps will erase the house edge.

    Back to the starting point.
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    You doubt wrong.

    In fact it's called doey-don't system and if you can get it past prying eyes (yes that can be done too) it works just fine.
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    Doey dont. What happens when the 12 is rolled? Passline loses and DP gets a push.

    That's the house edge on both sides.
    darkoz
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    September 24th, 2021 at 11:21:25 AM permalink
    Quote: AlanMendelson

    Quote: darkoz

    Quote: AlanMendelson

    Quote: darkoz

    Quote: billryan

    Quote: SOOPOO

    Remember, I am a guppy so have no real personal experience with high level comps. But I find it hard to believe there is someone you can ‘call’ at Venetian or Resorts World that will say out loud…. “We will comp you 10% of your actual loss”. Wouldn’t they need to be more vague?

    If not, I can round up $1,000,000, bet it on the pass line, win $1,000,000 49% of the time and lose $1,000,000 51% of the time, but get $100,000 in comps? Numbers approximate, concept is valid.

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    you and your wife could each bet 500,000 on opposite sides for an hour and end up owning the joint.
  • link to original post



    Yes and this type of scheme has worked at some places in the past so waaah waaah waaah!
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    No, it won't work at craps. There's a house edge on both sides, and I doubt the comps will erase the house edge.

    Back to the starting point.
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    You doubt wrong.

    In fact it's called doey-don't system and if you can get it past prying eyes (yes that can be done too) it works just fine.
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    Doey dont. What happens when the 12 is rolled? Passline loses and DP gets a push.

    That's the house edge on both sides.
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    The real question is what happens when two people each get their offers in the mail.
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    AlanMendelson
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    September 24th, 2021 at 12:01:55 PM permalink
    Quote: darkoz

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    Quote: darkoz

    Quote: AlanMendelson

    Quote: darkoz

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    Quote: SOOPOO

    Remember, I am a guppy so have no real personal experience with high level comps. But I find it hard to believe there is someone you can ‘call’ at Venetian or Resorts World that will say out loud…. “We will comp you 10% of your actual loss”. Wouldn’t they need to be more vague?

    If not, I can round up $1,000,000, bet it on the pass line, win $1,000,000 49% of the time and lose $1,000,000 51% of the time, but get $100,000 in comps? Numbers approximate, concept is valid.

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    you and your wife could each bet 500,000 on opposite sides for an hour and end up owning the joint.
  • link to original post



    Yes and this type of scheme has worked at some places in the past so waaah waaah waaah!
  • link to original post



    No, it won't work at craps. There's a house edge on both sides, and I doubt the comps will erase the house edge.

    Back to the starting point.
  • link to original post



    You doubt wrong.

    In fact it's called doey-don't system and if you can get it past prying eyes (yes that can be done too) it works just fine.
  • link to original post



    Doey dont. What happens when the 12 is rolled? Passline loses and DP gets a push.

    That's the house edge on both sides.
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    The real question is what happens when two people each get their offers in the mail.
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    My mail offers have only been a fraction of my comps. Heck, my wedding was comped... Rabbi, still and video photographers, lunch, dinner, champagne at the craps table and all. And it was a $5 table for my guests.
    darkoz
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    September 24th, 2021 at 12:11:14 PM permalink
    Quote: AlanMendelson

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    Quote: AlanMendelson

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    Quote: SOOPOO

    Remember, I am a guppy so have no real personal experience with high level comps. But I find it hard to believe there is someone you can ‘call’ at Venetian or Resorts World that will say out loud…. “We will comp you 10% of your actual loss”. Wouldn’t they need to be more vague?

    If not, I can round up $1,000,000, bet it on the pass line, win $1,000,000 49% of the time and lose $1,000,000 51% of the time, but get $100,000 in comps? Numbers approximate, concept is valid.

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    you and your wife could each bet 500,000 on opposite sides for an hour and end up owning the joint.
  • link to original post



    Yes and this type of scheme has worked at some places in the past so waaah waaah waaah!
  • link to original post



    No, it won't work at craps. There's a house edge on both sides, and I doubt the comps will erase the house edge.

    Back to the starting point.
  • link to original post



    You doubt wrong.

    In fact it's called doey-don't system and if you can get it past prying eyes (yes that can be done too) it works just fine.
  • link to original post



    Doey dont. What happens when the 12 is rolled? Passline loses and DP gets a push.

    That's the house edge on both sides.
  • link to original post



    The real question is what happens when two people each get their offers in the mail.
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    My mail offers have only been a fraction of my comps. Heck, my wedding was comped... Rabbi, still and video photographers, lunch, dinner, champagne at the craps table and all. And it was a $5 table for my guests.
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    I understand your experience with comps leads you to the conclusion they cannot be taken advantage of.

    There are professional comp hustlers who understand how to make a profit.

    I can't tell you more than that. Secrets of the trade.
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    MDawg
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    September 24th, 2021 at 12:16:22 PM permalink
    At Baccarat they will generally not allow a player to bet both the Player and Bank at the same time. (The only exception I have seen was at casinos where free hands are not allowed, some of those casinos will allow a player to bet a few hands with 100 on each side to "pay" for the free hands at $5. per on each Bank hit.) I am sure the same at Craps table as far as the same player betting the do and don't at the same time.

    I play private tables these days so there is no one else at my table, period, if that is what anyone is getting at in my case. Also at the Wizard observed session which was at a public table I won and although a couple of small players did show up at some point during the session there was no betting in symmetry going on. Anyway, I am sure we are well beyond that sort of accusation. I recall AxelWolf was thinking that I might be up to something like that early on when I arrived at the scene, but after my Wizard observed session he posted

    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
    AlanMendelson
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    September 24th, 2021 at 12:19:22 PM permalink
    Darkoz you're not telling me anything new. Sure there are ways to take advantage of comps.

    Hell, I got a free wedding.

    I had twenty people for Thanksgiving weekend with Thanksgiving dinner and comped rooms.

    I can list comps forever.

    But I cant accept that Strip casinos routinely comp 10% or 15% of theo for players who are big winners.
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    September 24th, 2021 at 12:21:19 PM permalink
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    But I cant accept that Strip casinos routinely comp 10% or 15% of theo for players who are big winners.

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    They don't comp 10 or 15% of theo, they comp 35 or 40% of theo. Win, lose or draw, that's the way it works.

    Banned from the casino entirely? That's a different story, but as long as the player is still playing, the comp machine keeps flowing.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/

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