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December 12th, 2020 at 9:13:17 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I didn't buy his book because I understood that his methods for beat must-hits pertained mostly to Australia where he lives.

The meter movements and other gambling aspects of the mechanics of must-hits in Australia are different than elsewhere and made his ability to win possible there but not so possible elsewhere.

EDIT: I had to look up the type of machines he was beating. Something called Pokies! A form of Must-hit different from the ones here in the USA and elsewhere.



Pokies are just what a regional slang term for a slot machine. I read the book some years ago. Not particularly interesting imo. Yes meter rates would make it much different but It’s the same formula everyone applies, no different than there being a 0.25% meter rate on one video poker machine and a 3% on another making one much more worthwhile to track.
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December 12th, 2020 at 9:23:53 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz



But in case you missed my edit to my post above, the book primarily is about a type of must-hits slot in Australia called Pokies.



Pokies is what Austrailans refer to as Poker machines. Which we refer to as video slots. I believe they were called poker machines because in the beginning most of the machines had symbols for A K Q J T. Even many American video slot machines still use those symbols.
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December 12th, 2020 at 9:50:46 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

For the most part you are correct. You need something special or extra going on. There's many different situations that can be +Ev, like a progressive(I assume that's what you mean by a jackpot) a promotion/ marketing department/ slot club or even some type of a glitch.

There are machines you can vulture. Call them what you want, accumulator slots/ banking slots/variable State slots. This is where someone plays the machine and builds up value but leaves the machine before they collect that built up value. And now you come along and only play when those values are built up to over 100% Payback and then stop once you've collected the value.



Thank you so much for being the only person here to answer my question effectively.

I'd like everyone's attention please. I've been correct about slot machines this entire time. Everyone here has a misconception that slot games have advantage play when in accordance with how gaming regulations see it, slot games are 100% A.P.!!! Did you know that the jackpots or bonuses on these machines are not considered part of the slot game???

Legally any mini-game is a separate entity from the main game & you must file for its own gaming application approval & it's own mathematical analysis from a lab! You are using the terms incorrectly. Even all the side features that can give you free play games are kit considered a part of the slot game. There are no advantages playing the slot game, just the extra staff that the company added to the game can be exploited because they need to make it unique & stand out from the crowd.
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December 12th, 2020 at 9:55:50 AM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

Thank you so much for being the only person here to answer my question effectively.

I'd like everyone's attention please. I've been correct about slot machines this entire time. Everyone here has a misconception that slot games have advantage play when in accordance with how gaming regulations see it, slot games are 100% A.P.!!! Did you know that the jackpots or bonuses on these machines are not considered part of the slot game???

Legally any mini-game is a separate entity from the main game & you must file for it's own gaming application approval & it's own mathematical analysis from a lab! You are using the terms incorrectly. Even all the side features that can give you free play games are kit considered a part of the slot game. There are no advantages playing the slot game, just the extra staff that the company added to the game can be exploited because they need to make it unique & stand out from the crowd.



Nothing you say here makes any sense whatsoever.
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December 12th, 2020 at 10:00:00 AM permalink
Quote: sabre

Nothing you say here makes any sense whatsoever.



So basically, everyone slot machine has the standard slot game that everyone uses which is 100% A.P. free & then they add to it other games which are legally classified as a game & a separate entity from the slot game but there have been many of these added games which are A.P. possible. Basically the only edge you can have on a slot machine is in the extra stuff that the company added & not the slot game itself. Please do some research & you will see I'm telling the truth, or at least from the research I've done I think I am. Maybe you have some research that could change my mind that you would love to share ;)

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December 12th, 2020 at 10:14:34 AM permalink
Does anyone here realize what this means??? It means my competitors are so stupid that they have a flawless slot design & can't design a side game that doesn't allow for A.P. play!!! 🤑 This is great news for me, I always thought the casino industry was soft when it came to game design but there is no excuse for so many companies to be putting out A.P. plausable machines lol I guarantee you all that it's not possible for A.P. with Royal Slots & my program already comes with jackpots.
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December 12th, 2020 at 10:17:28 AM permalink
I've been in the business for 18 years now, 6 of those at GLI, and the remaining 12 designing games and working in compliance. Nothing you have said is correct.
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December 12th, 2020 at 10:18:16 AM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

I've been in the business for 18 years now, 6 of those at GLI, and the remaining 12 designing games and working in compliance. Nothing you have said is correct.



That's fine, can you please explain what is wrong with what I said?
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December 12th, 2020 at 10:18:37 AM permalink
Anytime I’ve run across people claiming they are beating slots....they drive 25 year old broken down cars and look like they could use a meal, a barber shop and a trip to Kohl’s for new duds.

None of them seem to be “enjoying” the fruits of their labor.
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December 12th, 2020 at 10:21:05 AM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

Anytime I’ve run across people claiming they are beating slots....they drive 25 year old broken down cars and look like they could use a meal, a barber shop and a trip to Kohl’s for new duds.

None of them seem to be “enjoying” the fruits of their labor.



I think you are 100% right but please stick to the threads question, I am a game designer & I need to understand this question but all I have is research that others have shared to go on.
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