ricardoro450
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November 16th, 2017 at 7:49:24 PM permalink
I would like to know how much a blackjack table should hold if the house rules are as following:

6 decks
house stands on soft 17
player can split up to 4 hands
aces can only be split once
no surrender
can double down after split - yes
can double down in any amount- yes
dealer must peek for BJ

THANKS !!!!
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November 16th, 2017 at 7:57:12 PM permalink
16 to 18%
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November 16th, 2017 at 8:14:59 PM permalink
Quote: ricardoro450

I would like to know how much a blackjack table should hold if the house rules are as following:

6 decks
house stands on soft 17
player can split up to 4 hands
aces can only be split once
no surrender
can double down after split - yes
can double down in any amount- yes
dealer must peek for BJ

THANKS !!!!



If you are really asking for the "hold percentage," there is no way for a mathematician to calculate that in advance. (I bet the hold percentage would vary by casino, country or part of a country, and time of day.) See the Wizard's comments on hold percentage. (Search for "hold percentage" on that page.)

But if you asking for the "house edge," the Wizard's blackjack house edge calculator can answer that. Putting in your rules, you can find the house edge is 0.40312% (for optimal results.)
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November 17th, 2017 at 4:38:09 AM permalink
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16 to 18%

Really? A better hold than slots? As Chesterdog point out, the house edge can be calculated for the game assuming best basic strategy is used. Few players use or even know basic strategy, which increased the hold. Also, few players know how to manage their bankroll and so go bust, also increasing the hold. I have read that the hold for blackjack is 2-to-4%. And, as Chesterdog also notes, the hold varies with conditions. I would guess it peaks Saturday nights with lots of amateur, recreational play.
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November 17th, 2017 at 5:58:30 AM permalink
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Really? A better hold than slots? As Chesterdog point out, the house edge can be calculated for the game assuming best basic strategy is used. Few players use or even know basic strategy, which increased the hold. Also, few players know how to manage their bankroll and so go bust, also increasing the hold. I have read that the hold for blackjack is 2-to-4%. And, as Chesterdog also notes, the hold varies with conditions. I would guess it peaks Saturday nights with lots of amateur, recreational play.



I think you're mistaken house advantage and hold percentage.

There was a link previously posted in here that you should read.
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November 17th, 2017 at 11:14:21 AM permalink
For HOLD percentages, all you have to do is go to the recent official stats and see .... the percentages really do not vary that much and any particular rules don't really affect the hold all that much. This is HOLD, has nothing whatsoever to do with house edge.
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November 17th, 2017 at 2:02:27 PM permalink
Quote: SM777

I think you're mistaken house advantage and hold percentage.

There was a link previously posted in here that you should read.

No, but I was thinking of GAME hold as opposed to TABLE hold.
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November 29th, 2017 at 5:50:17 PM permalink
when a bj game starts holding less than 15%, casino's start investigating.
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November 29th, 2017 at 6:26:17 PM permalink
Atlantic city and Nevada blackjack hold % are in the 12% range.Players play closer to basic strategy than they used to.
Not sure what effect 6 to 5 bj is having on hold %.
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