What personality type are you?
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The leader: This type knows that without a letter the group will hem and haw and take ages to make a decision. So he will forcefully try to take the initiative to suggest something forcefully, knowing that everyone is likely to follow like sheep with the idea. For example, if the leader wants Chinese food he will say something like, "Let's have Chinese food! That place over there looks good!"
The diplomat: This type also wants to make a fast decision, but wants it done fairly, with everyone having an equal voice. This is likely also done with some resentment over the perceived abuse of power of the leader types. If the diplomat wants Mexican food he is likely to say something like "I prefer Mexican food, but I'm just one vote, does anyone else want to suggest something?"
The populist: This type will usually just follow whatever the leader type suggests. He will never call for a vote or suggestions, but if somebody else does first, then he will go along with that process by voting and perhaps making suggestions.
The enabler: This type feels it is much more important to avoid conflict than where to eat. He will happily go along with the leader type. No matter what occurs the enabler will say something like, "No really, anything is fine, you guys decide," even though the enabler secretly does have a preference. A group of all enablers and populists will likely take ages to arrive at a decision.
I know there are areas in between, but which type most closely describes you. Also, I know it is a bit politically incorrect, but when I mean "he or she," as in this case, I just write "he."
What really grates me are those who ask, "I don't know, what would you like?", then after you answer, will say, "I don't really like that.."
Quote: zippyboyJust go to a nice buffet and be done with it. Bam, everyone's happy.
(Dammit! Stuck at another absolutely awful "buffet" because some zippy "leader" thinks he has the right answer for all of us ... $#)@#$)&#&^!!!.)
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I see you've met my wife...Quote: AyecarumbaWhat really grates me are those who ask, "I don't know, what would you like?", then after you answer, will say, "I don't really like that.."
It happens all the time that I'm in a group of enablers and I suggest we put forth suggestions and then take a vote. None of the enablers even mention anything but say "anything is fine." So it comes down to whatever I want, because mine was the only vote. You might think I'd be happy to get my way, but I feel everyone should have an equal voice and not be ashamed to let it be heard.
Quote: HotBlondeI would say that I'm a diplomat.
s that because some lucky guy is usually picking up the check ????
Sorry, please don't scold me for posting posts in more than one post (you get what I'm saying...) I have an iPhone that has been making it hard for me to quote more than one person in one fell swoopeith that being said...Quote: zippyboyI roll my eyes at any "leader" who tries to force his opinions onto others as the only truth, but I'm equally turned off by wishy-washy "followers" too timid to speak up. Just go to a nice buffet and be done with it. Bam, everyone's happy.
I completely agree with the above statement. I have a couple of girl friends who are very pushy and bossy and I find it is a complete turn off and it seems to almost always put me in an uncomfortable position. I even have an ain't who is like this, where she feels her view if the world is the only "right" view. It all really just comes down to conceit, plain and simple. When I was in Vegad recently I was accused of being bossy by someone which really, really upset me (I'm not even sure I'm over it yet) cuz I totally consider myself to be a fair person. I think that is a common denominator amongst mathematicians, we value fainted, even when it is not to our benefit.
In regards to enablers, I HATE enablers (sorry enablers) but I've always believed that push-overs are in search of something... Approval, maybe? Eck! If I ask for your opinion, that's EXACTLY what I want!
Although I can agree that they are annoying cuz they usually have no backbone, I have to say personally that I find the leader type to be more annoying. Just from my experience with the leader type, I find that I'll assert my opinion with them and they seem to keep pushing their view regardless of what I say. I hate this cuz itseems to be inconsiderate, and again, conceited (and ignorant).Quote: wizardThe most annoying of the personality types, in my opinion, is the enabler.
Now you can see why I would be thoroughly offended to be called bossy, when in fact, I consider myself to be a very fair and considerate person.
The passive aggresive, perhaps? :)
Quote: HotBlondeThank you for that statement, but that is not why I said that. And, unfortunately, I've found that I've met too many guys recently who are NOT ok with picking up the check, but who actually expect me to pay a fair share! I say what the eff is up with that??! What ever happened to the gentlemen in this world??? And don't say that chivalry is dead. Anyone who says that is a cheap ass!!!
I'm a cheap ass.
Screw chivalry. If it's not dead, it should be. Women want equal pay, equal status, equal jobs and equal voting rights? They can have equal chances to pay for the meals and dates as well.
I'm completely not okay with picking up the cheque if she's anywhere close to the same economic status as me. Certainly not on the first date. Later on, it tends to be much more a case of each of us getting things in turn. But if she expects me to by the drinks and food on the first date, it's not going to work between us anyways (I've had at least one date disgusted that I wouldn't buy the drinks on our first date. Course this never made a second date).
Quote: thecesspitI'm a cheap ass.
Screw chivalry. If it's not dead, it should be. Women want equal pay, equal status, equal jobs and equal voting rights? They can have equal chances to pay for the meals and dates as well.
I'm completely not okay with picking up the cheque if she's anywhere close to the same economic status as me. Certainly not on the first date. Later on, it tends to be much more a case of each of us getting things in turn. But if she expects me to by the drinks and food on the first date, it's not going to work between us anyways (I've had at least one date disgusted that I wouldn't buy the drinks on our first date. Course this never made a second date).
I'm old school and am always going to pick up the check unless she's not that attractive but in that case I probably wouldn't be on a date with her in the first place.
Quote: DJTeddyBearI see you've met my wife...
Bwahahaha! Well done, sir.
Quote: HotBlonde....actually expect me to pay a fair share....And don't say that chivalry is dead.
"Chivalry IS dead. And women killed it" - Dave Chappelle
Yes, you are a cheap ass and you are going to be very limited in the kind of woman you end up with cuz most women should not be ok with paying on dates. And that's not to say that she can't do something nice like cook dinner for you, pick up your dry cleaning, etc. But I like how Patti Stanger, The Millionaire Matchmaker, suggests, a man should never see a woman whip out cash or a credit card. To have a man treat is just a courteous and nice thing to do. Men and women should have equal rights, but traditionally men and women do have different roles when it comes to relationships. You can see that in all of the animal kingdom, there's no point in fighting nature.Quote: thecesspitI'm a cheap ass.
Screw chivalry. If it's not dead, it should be. Women want equal pay, equal status, equal jobs and equal voting rights? They can have equal chances to pay for the meals and dates as well.
I'm completely not okay with picking up the cheque if she's anywhere close to the same economic status as me. Certainly not on the first date. Later on, it tends to be much more a case of each of us getting things in turn. But if she expects me to by the drinks and food on the first date, it's not going to work between us anyways (I've had at least one date disgusted that I wouldn't buy the drinks on our first date. Course this never made a second date).
You're going to turn off a lot of women if you expect them to pay. Do you not make enough money or something? No real woman is going to want to be with a stingy man.
Quote: HotBlondeYes, you are a cheap ass and you are going to be very limited in the kind of woman you end up with cuz most women should not be ok with paying on dates. And that's not to say that she can't do something nice like cook dinner for you, pick up your dry cleaning, etc.
Oh, your defining how all women should act? That's a little unfair to them. I'm telling you that it's certainly that most women I know would be perfectly fine with paying on dates, and would expect to. This may well be an outlier.
I'd also be very upset if a woman picked up my dry cleaning... as I'd wonder whose clothes those were in the bag. She can make me dinner, I'll return the favour.
Quote:But I like how Patti Stanger, The Millionaire Matchmaker, suggests, a man should never see a woman whip out cash or a credit card. To have a man treat is just a courteous and nice thing to do. Men and women should have equal rights, but traditionally men and women do have different roles when it comes to relationships. You can see that in all of the animal kingdom, there's no point in fighting nature.
Meh. Don't care what someone whose trying to match people with millionaires say. I'm not a millionaire. If a lady never whips out her credit card, I have to wonder if she's not making enough money and is a cheap ass freeloader.... I'm progressing the acts of feminism by giving women the equal right to pay for a date as I do.
Quote:You're going to turn off a lot of women if you expect them to pay. Do you not make enough money or something? No real woman is going to want to be with a stingy man.
"Real" woman? Hmmm, I'll tell my last few girlfriends they aren't real women, just pretend ones. Ooops, that sounds wrong, doesn't it....
I make plenty of money, it's absolutely not an issue of being poor, or stingy. It's cool, I'm happy not dating women who want me to pick up the check, and they are happy not dating me. Seems like a good self selection criteria for us all.
Quote: thecesspitWomen want equal pay, equal status, equal jobs and equal voting rights? They can have equal chances to pay for the meals and dates as well.
Ummm, when it comes to advocating equality, it was revealed long ago that we will find 'some are more equal than others' [g]
in the case of dating, I have to defend the ladies in that it is hard to comprehend Courting without the man paying for this and that. Partly it is an act of showing off, partly tradition.
Quote: WizardThanks for the comments and votes thus far. I am definitely a "diplomat." The most annoying of the personality types, in my opinion, is the enabler. It does not surprise me that nobody voted for that. While not making any accusations about anybody here, I don't think enablers realize that they are enablers.
It happens all the time that I'm in a group of enablers and I suggest we put forth suggestions and then take a vote. None of the enablers even mention anything but say "anything is fine." So it comes down to whatever I want, because mine was the only vote. You might think I'd be happy to get my way, but I feel everyone should have an equal voice and not be ashamed to let it be heard.
Well geez, Wiz. They bother you because you're diplomat! If you were leader, you'd love enablers...
you: "Let's have Chinese"
crowd: ""Sounds good to me!"
And now you're munchin'.
Your problem was giving them the opportunity to vote.
I'm also a proper southern gentleman and I know a gentleman always picks up the check. If a woman wants her turn paying for a meal, then I will gladly accept an invitation to her house for dinner, but I'll still bring a bottle of wine and flowers.
There is a time and place for cheapness, but when you're trying to woo a woman is not the time and anywhere you go with her is not the place. Now that I'm married, my wife almost always picks up the check. Of course it's ultimately paid out of our joint account.
Back to the vote - so far I'm the lone populist. When it comes to got out to eat I really don't care. If someone has a preference that I'll happily support it. If there are multiple options, then I'll lend my support one way or the other. Now, when it comes time for drinks, I'll be the leader and suggest the place, or maybe two places to make people feel like they have a choice. Or, more likely, I'll do a "I'm going to the brewpub at MSS. Who's with me?".
Quote: kpI too am cheap. And I think chivalry is dead.
I'm also a proper southern gentleman and I know a gentleman always picks up the check. If a woman wants her turn paying for a meal, then I will gladly accept an invitation to her house for dinner, but I'll still bring a bottle of wine and flowers.
Going to dinner at their house is always a good choice early on... if they make dinner by pouring a tin of soup concentrate on a frozen chicken fillet, it's probably not a viable long term relationship for me either... :)
Quote: WizardI am definitely a "diplomat." The most annoying of the personality types, in my opinion, is the enabler. It does not surprise me that nobody voted for that.
I think if you had used the word agreeable then you would have had some votes. Enabling is a negative quality by anyone's definition.
I know that Myer's Briggs tried to frame their personality test 65 years ago so that none of the descriptive words was inherently negative or positive. It's difficult, since most people do attach value anyway. In the last 65 years with multi media, introversion is no longer neutral, but is usually rated as a negative quality.
Dichotomies
Extraversion (E) - (I) Introversion
Sensing (S) - (N) Intuition
Thinking (T) - (F) Feeling
Judgment (J) - (P) Perception
If I really do not care and am in a strange place I will ask the host, "what is good around here?" If I care I'll say, "Are there any good steak places?"
Quote: HotBlondeThank you for that statement, but that is not why I said that. And, unfortunately, I've found that I've met too many guys recently who are NOT ok with picking up the check, but who actually expect me to pay a fair share! I say what the eff is up with that??! What ever happened to the gentlemen in this world??? And don't say that chivalry is dead. Anyone who says that is a cheap ass!!!
If it is a first date and "get-to-know-you" then the check should be split. "The guy picking up the check" is from a time when women earned less than men, today they earn equal or more. I'll be a "gentleman" if I asked her out or if the amount is nominal like a drink or cup of coffee. I do not care to pay for women who are with me for a free night out. It is 2011 not 1961.
Yes, I am single and no, I do not care if I ever get married.
TO THE GUYS: here is a hint if you want to be a "gentleman." If it is a dinner date make sure to eat a big, late lunch that day. That way when you say you are getting something small she will get something smaller so as not to look like she is eating more than you. You get credit for paying and save money.
One time a couple years ago, I was asked out for sushi by a young lady. I would not have asked her as she was quite a bit younger than I, but I accepted. The check came and it sat there on the table a while and she never picked it up. So I suggested we split it, and she said she didn't have any money with her, and looked insulted. "Really? YOU asked ME out!! And you didn't bring any money?" Guess I should be grateful she didn't invite me to Joël Robuchon. There was no second date.
Quote: zippyboyOne time a couple years ago, I was asked out for sushi by a young lady. I would not have asked her as she was quite a bit younger than I, but I accepted. The check came and it sat there on the table a while and she never picked it up. So I suggested we split it, and she said she didn't have any money with her, and looked insulted. "Really? YOU asked ME out!! And you didn't bring any money?" Guess I should be grateful she didn't invite me to Joël Robuchon. There was no second date.
Sounds like she will make someone a nice ex-wife someday. I would have told her, "I'll get the car" and left.
Quote: AZDuffmanIf it is a dinner date make sure to eat a big, late lunch that day. That way when you say you are getting something small she will get something smaller so as not to look like she is eating more than you. You get credit for paying and save money.
Just go to a buffet, there are lots of them now. And always pick up the check, it makes you look good and there are never any bad feelings. Relationships are hard enough without getting into money issues right away. But lots of guys are cheapskates. My nephew lost his first wife because he's cheap and his second has left him for the same reason. And he's not even 30 yet.
That's only one step above taking them to Tim Horton's (no joke... my friend got taken there for a meal on a date once. She didn't go on second date with him, even though he paid).
Quote: thecesspitA buffet? I'd never go on a first date to a buffet.
That's only one step above taking them to Tim Horton's (no joke... my friend got taken there for a meal on a date once. She didn't go on second date with him, even though he paid).
Yeah a buffet on a first date, or any date for that matter, screams of cheapness and will not get you laid.
Quote: JimMorrisonYeah a buffet on a first date, or any date for that matter, screams of cheapness and will not get you laid.
If thats why you're going on a date, just hire a hooker. There are very nice and NOT cheap buffets around, and many women appreciate not having the pressure of ordering. They also like the relaxed atmosphere. You guys are from the stone age, no wonder you never get any action.
Quote: EvenBobIf thats why you're going on a date, just hire a hooker. There are very nice and NOT cheap buffets around, and many women appreciate not having the pressure of ordering. They also like the relaxed atmosphere. You guys are from the stone age, no wonder you never get any action.
LOL I'd bet money I get more action than you. I have yet to meet a woman that I'd want to go out with that would think a buffet is a good option for a date.
Quote: JimMorrisonLOL I'd bet money I get more action than you. I have yet to meet a woman that I'd want to go out with that would think a buffet is a good option for a date.
Women want what men want, by and large. To be relaxed and comfortable and not uptight. A buffet is conducive to the kind of atmosphere that breeds fun and spontaneity. Some uptight place where the waiter has a bug up his ass and everybody speaks in hushed tones is for old farts who've been married 30 years and don't talk to each other anymore.
Quote: EvenBobWomen want what men want, by and large. To be relaxed and comfortable and not uptight. A buffet is conducive to the kind of atmosphere that breeds fun and spontaneity. Some uptight place where the waiter has a bug up his ass and everybody speaks in hushed tones is for old farts who've been married 30 years and don't talk to each other anymore.
Perhaps the type of women we are dating differ. I can see a buffet being acceptable for older women say 40's or 50's. I generally date girls in their 20's and I cannot imagine any girl in her 20's or even 30's thinking a buffet is an acceptable dating spot.
Quote: AZDuffmanSounds like she will make someone a nice ex-wife someday. I would have told her, "I'll get the car" and left.
I haven't ACTUALLY laughed out loud at something on the internet in years, until just now! Thanks!
Quote: JimMorrisonI generally date girls in their 20's and I cannot imagine any girl in her 20's or even 30's thinking a buffet is an acceptable dating spot.
Oh, you date game players, not real people.
Never mind.
Quote: EvenBobOh, you date game players, not real people.
Never mind.
No I date girls I'm attracted to. I'm not attracted to old chicks.
Quote: EvenBobWomen want what men want, by and large. To be relaxed and comfortable and not uptight. A buffet is conducive to the kind of atmosphere that breeds fun and spontaneity. Some uptight place where the waiter has a bug up his ass and everybody speaks in hushed tones is for old farts who've been married 30 years and don't talk to each other anymore.
I don't go to either, and there's plenty of great casual dining places where I live that do fantastic food, are really relaxed and are great for dates. Or with friends.
Ladies who find it's pressure to have to order food and don't enjoy good food are another in the group of people I'm unlikely to date more than once anyways. My self selection system seems to be working really well :)
Quote: MoscaI haven't ACTUALLY laughed out loud at something on the internet in years, until just now! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed. Hopefully it made your evening better than the last 2 hours of mine. I have seen hell and it is dealing monte-carlo-night poker to a bunch of kids. It would have been a better evening to jump off the US Steel Building head-first onto a bunch of nails.
Quote: AZDuffmanIt would have been a better evening to jump off the US Steel Building head-first onto a bunch of nails.
Could you have somebody video that for Youtube? Thanks..
Quote: AZDuffmanI have seen hell and it is dealing monte-carlo-night poker to a bunch of kids.
Or have someone video this for Youtube? Thanks..
I have to say that you do have it backward, my friend, and Jim is right. A buffet is somewhere you go with a friend or maybe with someone you're already in a relationship with. A nice place with a waiter is a great date cuz it shows that the man wants to treat the lady. And I still think that women should not have to pay on dates. Our beauty and presence is what you get in exchange for a nice meal, event, etc.Quote: EvenBobWomen want what men want, by and large. To be relaxed and comfortable and not uptight. A buffet is conducive to the kind of atmosphere that breeds fun and spontaneity. Some uptight place where the waiter has a bug up his ass and everybody speaks in hushed tones is for old farts who've been married 30 years and don't talk to each other anymore.
Quote: HotBlondeI have to say that you do have it backward, my friend, and Jim is right. A buffet is somewhere you go with a friend or maybe with someone you're already in a relationship with. A nice place with a waiter is a great date cuz it shows that the man wants to treat the lady. And I still think that women should not have to pay on dates. Our beauty and presence is what you get in exchange for a nice meal, event, etc.
Who would take a woman to a buffet on a first date? You could ask her to bring tinfoil to sneak out some fried chicken in her purse. That would be a way to make the magic last. Afterwards you could play blackjack on the bar and see if you can break even and score some complimentary drinks.
Quote: HotBlondeAnd I still think that women should not have to pay on dates. Our beauty and presence is what you get in exchange for a nice meal, event, etc.
Once again validating why I do not mind being single.
Quote: zippyboyOr have someone video this for Youtube? Thanks..
I blame myself for not properly anticipating the scope of the problem. Or more that I knew what would happen but was so tired from a week on the road I ignored it. When I train a new dealer my first and last words are "control your table." If you do not, your night will be long indeed.
Long story short, picture 9 12 or so year olds (whatever Bar Mitzvah age is) playing poker. Raise, Raise, RAISE! Then the ask for more chips. At first I told them there would be a 15 minute wait then I said we were doing a tournament. A modified tournament (no blind increases) to be sure, but there had to be some negative to just raising. To be fair 2-3 of them actually knew how to play poker. Others thought 3 pair beat a set.
Quote: HotBlondeOur beauty and presence is what you get in exchange for a nice meal, event, etc.
.....I have no words. My mind is spinning through a million combinations of thoughts like a slot machine on reel tilt......but I have no words. Probably better that way.
Quote: pacomartinWho would take a woman to a buffet on a first date?
Someone not looking forward to a second date. The subtext and implications are horrendous, too, beyond the price and lack of service.
