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Wizard
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November 6th, 2024 at 1:19:22 PM permalink
Nathan (Karen) asked me to make the following statement. Around Aug/Sep she made small loans from me and other forum members. When she couldn't pay them back, I suggested she not post until she did. The alternative would have been a forced suspension. She agreed.

About a week ago she paid me back and I'm told all other forum members except one. That other loan is not due until Nov 24, so she is still complaint with that one.

The question for the poll is which is your favorite Nathan handle?

Let me be the first welcome Nathan back!

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November 6th, 2024 at 3:07:45 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Nathan (Karen) asked me to make the following statement. Around Aug/Sep she made small loans from me and other forum members. When she couldn't pay them back, I suggested she not post until she did. The alternative would have been a forced suspension. She agreed.

About a week ago she paid me back and I'm told all other forum members except one. That other loan is not due until Nov 24, so she is still complaint with that one.

The question for the poll is which is your favorite Nathan handle?

Let me be the first welcome Nathan back!

Please remember to gamble responsibly and if you can't, not at all.
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No early posting, pay ALL your Debts and then be allowed to post.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
MDawg
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November 6th, 2024 at 3:20:27 PM permalink
I actually agree with the Wolf on this one.

However, it goes beyond that.

Quote: Wizard

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If it took Nathan months to repay such a small amount and she needs more weeks to repay an even smaller sum to Wolf, I believe she should consider not gambling at all.

Look - Kerry Packer won and lost millions but he was a billionaire, and a pretty liquid one at that. If it takes anyone this long to repay a few hundred dollars then one should consider whether one may even afford to gamble.

All of this is posted with due respect to Nathan, and looking out for her best interests.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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November 6th, 2024 at 3:38:26 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Nathan (Karen) asked me to make the following statement. Around Aug/Sep she made small loans from me and other forum members. When she couldn't pay them back, I suggested she not post until she did. The alternative would have been a forced suspension. She agreed.
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"The character Wimpy in the Popeye cartoons had an insatiable appetite for hamburgers and a perennial lack of funds. His signature line was, "I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." The implication was that whether or not he got the hamburger, the other party would never actually get the money."

Popeye cartoons were extremely popular when I was a kid in the 1950s and I never knew what this meant until somebody explained it to me. Ever since then I've been very very careful about loaning money because even the best of intentions quite often don't work out.
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November 6th, 2024 at 4:12:37 PM permalink
Thank you for the warm welcome back, Wizard! 🥰 I was being seen as a Welcher when I paid MOST of the loans back and only have the November 22nd (Not November 24th, I reread the terms of the loan) left ☢️ Thank you for setting the record straight that I did pay back most of the loans. 🥰 About gambling, I must admit, I was gambling HARD in order to get praise and kudos from WOV and be seen as an Advantage Player, ouch! ☢️ I am now focusing on not playing hard to get praise and kudos and be seen as an Advantage Player on WOV 💡 And playing how I REALLY want to play, not playing how I THINK will impress WOV and get me kudos and praise. There is a big difference between playing .50 slot bets and playing $50 Roulette spins! ☢️💡
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November 6th, 2024 at 5:23:27 PM permalink
Wizard, how could you forget to put KENTRY? 😆 Kentry was my first Account on here! 😆
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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November 6th, 2024 at 7:00:23 PM permalink
Welcome back Nathan.
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November 6th, 2024 at 8:53:08 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I actually agree with the Wolf on this one.

However, it goes beyond that.

Quote: Wizard

Please remember to gamble responsibly and if you can't, not at all.
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If it took Nathan months to repay such a small amount and she needs more weeks to repay an even smaller sum to Wolf, I believe she should consider not gambling at all.

Look - Kerry Packer won and lost millions but he was a billionaire, and a pretty liquid one at that. If it takes anyone this long to repay a few hundred dollars then one should consider whether one may even afford to gamble.

All of this is posted with due respect to Nathan, and looking out for her best interests.
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I never claimed she owed me money, however, I normally give a nice grace period for people paying me back.. so if I did loan her money, I'm certain she would still be within that grace period.

Heck, if she just posted on the forum without this thread, I doubt I would have even commented. I didn't even know there was some kind of posting restriction imposed on her.

If I was in her situation, I would have contacted anyone I still owed money to and discussed it before I went to Mike and asked to be allowed to post.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 7th, 2024 at 1:00:20 PM permalink
This seems easy. If she owes someone money but the terms are she doesn’t have to pay it back until November 22 then it’s a big nothing NOW. Welcome back. Frankly, since the loan was not made in open forum here on WoV, I don’t see why she should be banned if she doesn’t pay that loan back. It may be in bad form, but should not be a WoV concern. If it is a result of a WoV mentioned bet, to me, that’s different.
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November 7th, 2024 at 3:00:49 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Frankly, since the loan was not made in open forum here on WoV, I don’t see why she should be banned if she doesn’t pay that loan back. It may be in bad form, but should not be a WoV concern. If it is a result of a WoV mentioned bet, to me, that’s different.
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She used WoV messages to ask for the loans. That makes it my business. I do not want welchers on my forum.
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November 7th, 2024 at 3:03:39 PM permalink
Personally I would have liked to have Nathan back on the condition she ONLY post as Moonsovermyhammy. It’s just objectively a better name and makes the forum better since no one else can now use it, amirite?
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November 7th, 2024 at 3:39:02 PM permalink
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Thank you for the warm welcome back, Wizard! 🥰 I was being seen as a Welcher when I paid MOST of the loans back and only have the November 22nd (Not November 24th, I reread the terms of the loan) left ☢️ Thank you for setting the record straight that I did pay back most of the loans. 🥰 About gambling, I must admit, I was gambling HARD in order to get praise and kudos from WOV and be seen as an Advantage Player, ouch! ☢️ I am now focusing on not playing hard to get praise and kudos and be seen as an Advantage Player on WOV 💡 And playing how I REALLY want to play, not playing how I THINK will impress WOV and get me kudos and praise. There is a big difference between playing .50 slot bets and playing $50 Roulette spins! ☢️💡
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If you want to be an AP and don't have money, you should be apprenticing with the masters, not borrowing money and doing whatever. They will tell you what to play and how to play it.

If you are a female you are able to get away with things in the social environment of a casino that the rest of us can not. Very useful things, especially to a team that practices the darker arts.
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November 7th, 2024 at 5:48:43 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Personally I would have liked to have Nathan back on the condition she ONLY post as Moonsovermyhammy. It’s just objectively a better name and makes the forum better since no one else can now use it, amirite?
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Oh God, the Moonsovermyhammy Username was made when I was hungry and thinking of Moons Over My Hammy from Denny's! LMAO! 🤣🤭
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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