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November 16th, 2019 at 2:22:38 AM permalink


I'm happy to say that the second edition of Gambling 102 arrived in Vegas on Wednesday and is ready for purchase. It is 99% rewritten from the first edition, with many new games added. The material on the old game is all updated. I think the only thing to stay the same is the 10 Commandments of Gambling.

The book is available for purchase at Huntington Press for $11.95.

The question for the poll is what is your opinion of the new edition?
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November 16th, 2019 at 4:15:42 AM permalink
What is my opinion of a book I haven't read?
I look forward to getting it, and am happy for the author but I will wait until I've actually read it to form an opinion.
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November 16th, 2019 at 6:42:32 AM permalink
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I look forward to getting it, and am happy for the author but I will wait until I've actually read it to form an opinion.



Thus, the choice in the poll "I haven't read it yet."

I look forward to thoughts once people have had a chance to see it. Come play pickle ball tomorrow and I'll give you one.
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November 16th, 2019 at 6:56:07 AM permalink
How about the royal flush prize giveaway on WoO again.
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November 16th, 2019 at 8:33:02 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thus, the choice in the poll "I haven't read it yet."

I look forward to thoughts once people have had a chance to see it. Come play pickle ball tomorrow and I'll give you one.



I appreciate your offer but rather than make the thousand mile roundtrip from Bisbee, I'll hope Santa brings me a copy.
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November 16th, 2019 at 8:38:16 AM permalink
I am sorry to say that I never bought the first one. You were nice enough to give me a draft of it when we were in Toronto, so I promise I will buy a copy of this one.
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November 16th, 2019 at 10:21:49 AM permalink
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I am sorry to say that I never bought the first one. You were nice enough to give me a draft of it when we were in Toronto, so I promise I will buy a copy of this one.



Did I give it to you as a peace offering for missing our meeting due to having to watch the Survivor finale? Do you still have it? I made only 100 of them.
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November 16th, 2019 at 11:28:54 AM permalink
It's certainly reasonably priced. I was expecting it to cost twice as much. How many pages is it?
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November 16th, 2019 at 11:35:13 AM permalink
who is the gentleman in the photo? is he your in Mike?
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November 16th, 2019 at 11:35:51 AM permalink
lol kin not in...my bad on the typo
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November 16th, 2019 at 1:16:27 PM permalink
I just placed an order which will save me from being an Indian Giver of that first edition I gave to an acquaintance years ago.

I just hope the type face between two editions takes into account the ravages of time and smoke filled casinos.
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November 16th, 2019 at 1:30:25 PM permalink
I bought the first one, it was good enough. Sort of the same information that you could get off the website, but less detailed: thatís a good thing in a book, when it is being marketed for us carny game folks.

Iíll probably buy the new one, too. Iíll get around to it soon.
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November 16th, 2019 at 1:49:26 PM permalink
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who is the gentleman in the photo? is he your in Mike?



avianrandy,

I believe that is the publisher, Anthony Curtis.

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November 16th, 2019 at 2:00:49 PM permalink
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Did I give it to you as a peace offering for missing our meeting due to having to watch the Survivor finale? Do you still have it? I made only 100 of them.



I saw it about 5 years ago when I moved but I really don't know where it is now. It is most likely in a box in my garage.
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November 16th, 2019 at 2:10:32 PM permalink
Amazon says the last one came out in 2005. What's the strategy for playing 88 coin slots?
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November 16th, 2019 at 8:56:20 PM permalink
Quote: DogHand

I believe that is the publisher, Anthony Curtis.



You're right.
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November 16th, 2019 at 8:57:12 PM permalink
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I saw it about 5 years ago when I moved but I really don't know where it is now. It is most likely in a box in my garage.



Maybe it will be worth something someday. As crude as it is, I kind of like it.
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November 17th, 2019 at 5:15:53 PM permalink
Good to know...thank you Wiz and DogHand
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December 26th, 2019 at 8:32:07 AM permalink


Well, Santa brought me a copy of "Gambling 102 (Second Edition)" for Christmas and I think you nail it in the introduction; it's neither a book for beginners nor a book for experts. This means, being a somewhat enlightened rec player, that it's right up my alley. I was a little distraught to read you had removed some of the games from the earlier addition but, upon contemplation, realized the games included in this volume are the only ones I'm currently interested in playing so you have a good pulse of the current table game selection. I intend to take it with me to Vegas and local Indian casinos so I can do last minute strategy brush ups (and check paytables). Also I'll use it for my own poker group when I'm teaching them how to play new table games.

Thank you Santa Wiz!
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December 26th, 2019 at 12:37:30 PM permalink
Another book to order, another book that I won't get to for far too long. I love that gambling literature is wider than I believed when I first got into it and how many approaches there are to it. The theoretical, for the mathematically enlightened and those that can be read by someone with zero knowledge of anything gambling that serve more as a narrative. As someone who has yet to read Gambling 101 or Gambling 102, how would you describe the book? I'd imagine it's largely descriptive of how the games are played with some math behind them, but doesn't have too many personal anecdotes nor is it overtly complicated. Does that sound about right?
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December 26th, 2019 at 1:28:56 PM permalink
Quote: Minty

As someone who has yet to read Gambling 101 or Gambling 102, how would you describe the book? I'd imagine it's largely descriptive of how the games are played with some math behind them, but doesn't have too many personal anecdotes nor is it overtly complicated. Does that sound about right?


Yes. You might think of it as the "Cliff Notes" version of the WOO game pages. It assumes you are already are familiar with the games discussed so, for most entries, the rules are not listed. You get a brief overview of the game, the HE and (if applicable) the EOR, common side bets (usually with various paytables used) and (if applicable) the basic strategy. The entire entry for Mississippi Stud, for example, can be read in around 90 seconds. There are also brief sections on casino etiquette and FAQs.

I can't speak for others but what I intend to do is pack it for a Vegas trip. When I check in I can see what table/video poker games are available and then use the book to quickly brush up on my chosen targets.
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December 26th, 2019 at 1:40:46 PM permalink
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I love that gambling literature is wider than I believed when I first got into it and how many approaches there are to it.

I recommend the PreSchool Poker Coloring Book: Ages 4 to 7.
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December 26th, 2019 at 2:12:38 PM permalink
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avianrandy,

I believe that is the publisher, Anthony Curtis.

Dog Hand




Why does Wizard still look about 25? Trick photography?
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December 26th, 2019 at 2:15:13 PM permalink
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I'm happy to say that the second edition of Gambling 102 arrived in Vegas on Wednesday and is ready for purchase. It is 99% rewritten from the first edition, with many new games added. The material on the old game is all updated. I think the only thing to stay the same is the 10 Commandments of Gambling.

The book is available for purchase at Huntington Press for $11.95.

The question for the poll is what is your opinion of the new edition?




That's a good photo. A classic.
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December 26th, 2019 at 6:37:36 PM permalink
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That's a good photo. A classic.



Michael could almost pass for Curt's taller son.
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December 27th, 2019 at 7:03:29 AM permalink
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Thank you Santa Wiz!



You're welcome. Thanks for the review.
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January 13th, 2020 at 10:58:06 PM permalink
So my copy just arrived recently and I've been enjoying it so far. I do like the approach as being between novice and expert and think you'll be helping the most people that way. I know that I'll learn a lot about quite a few games and like the effort to make the EOR more apparent for gamblers. I actually noticed that the basic strategy chart has some mistakes. The most apparent being the recommendation to split if DAS is allowed otherwise stand for pairs of 2s and 3s against a dealer's 2 or 3. Likewise, the same Ph in the chart notifies us to stand if we can't DAS our pairs of 4 against a dealer's 5 or 6.

Maybe my copy has typos in the legend or chart, but I thought I'd let ya know it's out there. That's about where I've stopped reading, but I do really like your writing style and think this will be an essential guide for many people!
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January 14th, 2020 at 2:50:09 AM permalink
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<snip>I actually noticed that the basic strategy chart has some mistakes. The most apparent being the recommendation to split if DAS is allowed otherwise stand for pairs of 2s and 3s against a dealer's 2 or 3. Likewise, the same Ph in the chart notifies us to stand if we can't DAS our pairs of 4 against a dealer's 5 or 6.<snip>



Minty,

I don't have the book, but the notation "Ph" generally means "sPlit if possible, hit otherwise". So, for example, if you're playing a video blackjack game that allows DAS but only one split, you should split 22 vs. 3. If one of these 2's receives a second 2, then you should Hit that resulting 22, because the rules don't allow another split.

Hope this helps!

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