Divorce to Marriage Ratio
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Quote: GialmereI've been reading some articles stating that the US divorce rate is dropping but it isn't necessarily good news. The reason why seems to be that fewer people are actually getting married. Those that do tend to be older, college educated people with solid career paths. Thus, financial insecurity--a major cause of divorce--is taken off the table. Millennials without college are now often turning to cohabitation as a marriage alternative and so their plight is off the marriage/divorce radar.
When I was in elementary school it was very rare that a kid did not have both parents married. Even controlling that I was in Catholic school in most of the grades there were about 60-80 kids. You might have had 1-2 who lost a dad in Vietnam or some other untimely way and 1-2 who had parents who split. Maybe 1-2 in a "Brady Bunch" family. That was about it.
Today in any given school that will be about half. The rest are single moms in some level of cohabitation. It has now been this way for some time. I have worked with several women over the years with kids and BF living in. Occasionaly but rarely one would squeeze the guy into marriage. The rest it just went on for years.
The kids grow up around this and see it as normal. Like Karen Hill said abut mafia life, living around it and everyone doing it eventually it all seemed perfectly normal. We all have something that we now see as unusual but as a kid we grew up around it and figured it was what people did.
So now you have a generation of people to whom it seemed normal repeating it. In general it is bad for the women and good for the men. If you are in the business or renting residential property it is good, if you host weddings it is bad.
I imagine it's still too soon to track long term trends, but the contrast in the divorce rates of the two groups should be interesting.
As an aside, gr8owing up on Army bases, I honestly don't recall any of my friends parents being divorced .
Quote: billryanI'd be curious how the legalization of same sex marriages effects the divorce rate. Far too many marriages are the result of a couple getting pregnant, which shouldn't be a factor in same sex couples, and the financial strain of children is probably not much of a factor.
I imagine it's still too soon to track long term trends, but the contrast in the divorce rates of the two groups should be interesting.
I agree with you. I also think just because the struggles that same sex couples go through they are probably waiting longer to get married which would probably improve their odds of staying together.
Quote: DRichQuote: billryanI'd be curious how the legalization of same sex marriages effects the divorce rate. Far too many marriages are the result of a couple getting pregnant, which shouldn't be a factor in same sex couples, and the financial strain of children is probably not much of a factor.
I imagine it's still too soon to track long term trends, but the contrast in the divorce rates of the two groups should be interesting.
I agree with you. I also think just because the struggles that same sex couples go through they are probably waiting longer to get married which would probably improve their odds of staying together.
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There is a quirky, bizarre fact that just came from England. According to newly released government statistics, women in the UK are more likely to get divorced than men. How can this be? Until recently it couldn't but, as mentioned, same-sex marriage brings same-sex divorce in its wake.
The stats show that 67.2% of same-sex divorces last year were between women. So UK women are divorcing women at a rate of two-to-one against UK men divorcing men. This is actually an improvement over the year before when women divorcing women accounted for almost 75% of same-sex divorces. If you pull back and consider all marriages, however, it becomes a mere statistical oddity. The average British woman's marriage has a 0.1% greater chance of ending in divorce than the average man's.
The stats also show that the UK divorce rate, which had been dropping since the beginning of the century, has spiked in the last few years. The culprit appears to be Covid. Although many European countries thought (in many cases hoped) that lockdowns would increase the birthrate, it appears the only increases have been in the bank accounts of divorce attorneys.
But perhaps society should just be happy that anyone is getting married at all. As mentioned earlier in this thread, the younger generation seems to be eschewing the institution almost entirely. Yes, the British divorce rate is on a downward trend, but this is likely because only the couples who really, really want to tie the knot will do it. The new statistics also reveal the marriage rate in the UK to be at its lowest level since the year 1862.
That's Nonsense.Quote: WizardQuote: EvenBobBelieve me, if you had just shook it
off you would have got laid all the
time. I've seen ugly guys with nothing
going for them do it. You have to
be aggressive. No matter what women
say, a lot of them like aggressive men
that keep on trying.
I think women must go on smell or something.
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Quote: AxelWolfThat's Nonsense.Quote: WizardQuote: EvenBobBelieve me, if you had just shook it
off you would have got laid all the
time. I've seen ugly guys with nothing
going for them do it. You have to
be aggressive. No matter what women
say, a lot of them like aggressive men
that keep on trying.
I think women must go on smell or something.
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Thanks for all the details on why it's nonsense. You really cleared that up. LOL
I'll let him make arguments about why it's not nonsense. I'm fairly sure there are some scientific studies regarding human pheromones having a very very slight effect on attracting females and you better believe they have been trying to bottle that.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfThat's Nonsense.Quote: WizardQuote: EvenBobBelieve me, if you had just shook it
off you would have got laid all the
time. I've seen ugly guys with nothing
going for them do it. You have to
be aggressive. No matter what women
say, a lot of them like aggressive men
that keep on trying.
I think women must go on smell or something.
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Thanks for all the details on why it's nonsense. You really cleared that up. LOL
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Having some special smell that acts like some type of Spanish fly is just nonsense.
Smells like bad BO can certainly be repellant.
I am certain having bad breath will significantly lower your chances of getting laid. You probably shouldn't be getting close enough for them to smell your breath before you're feeling a good vibe.
Quote: AxelWolfI'll let him make arguments about why it's not nonsense. I'm fairly sure there are some scientific studies regarding human pheromones having a very very slight effect on attracting females and you better believe they have been trying to bottle that.
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Back in college I bought some of that pheromone stuff that was supposed to attract women.
It didn't work and I started getting a rash on my neck.
Quote: AxelWolfI'll let him make arguments about why it's not nonsense. I'm fairly sure there are some scientific studies regarding human pheromones having a very very slight effect on attracting females and you better believe they have been trying to bottle that.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfThat's Nonsense.Quote: WizardQuote: EvenBobBelieve me, if you had just shook it
off you would have got laid all the
time. I've seen ugly guys with nothing
going for them do it. You have to
be aggressive. No matter what women
say, a lot of them like aggressive men
that keep on trying.
I think women must go on smell or something.
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Thanks for all the details on why it's nonsense. You really cleared that up. LOL
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Having some special smell that acts like some type of Spanish fly is just nonsense.
Smells like bad BO can certainly be repellant.
I am certain having bad breath will significantly lower your chances of getting laid. You probably shouldn't be getting close enough for them to smell your breath before you're feeling a good vibe.
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No known human pheromones, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sex_pheromones
Still gonna have to pick up women the old fashioned way....
Quote: AxelWolfI'll let him make arguments about why it's not nonsense. I'm fairly sure there are some scientific studies regarding human pheromones having a very very slight effect on attracting females and you better believe they have been trying to bottle that.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfThat's Nonsense.Quote: WizardQuote: EvenBobBelieve me, if you had just shook it
off you would have got laid all the
time. I've seen ugly guys with nothing
going for them do it. You have to
be aggressive. No matter what women
say, a lot of them like aggressive men
that keep on trying.
I think women must go on smell or something.
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Thanks for all the details on why it's nonsense. You really cleared that up. LOL
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Having some special smell that acts like some type of Spanish fly is just nonsense.
Smells like bad BO can certainly be repellant.
I am certain having bad breath will significantly lower your chances of getting laid. You probably shouldn't be getting close enough for them to smell your breath before you're feeling a good vibe.
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Hah, we can all think of people having so much BS coming out of their mouths that you'd think you were at a rodeo.
Not going to mention any names.
Quote: DieterI am told that smelling like a pleasant soap instead of sweaty grime does wonders.
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Not for Rugby groupies. There is someone for everyone.
Quote: billryanQuote: DieterI am told that smelling like a pleasant soap instead of sweaty grime does wonders.
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Not for Rugby groupies. There is someone for everyone.
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True enough. There are people who go crazy (in a good way) if they catch a whiff of 93 octane on you, too.
that's better than a rash on your D....kQuote: TigerWuQuote: AxelWolfI'll let him make arguments about why it's not nonsense. I'm fairly sure there are some scientific studies regarding human pheromones having a very very slight effect on attracting females and you better believe they have been trying to bottle that.
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Back in college I bought some of that pheromone stuff that was supposed to attract women.
It didn't work and I started getting a rash on my neck.
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Quote: TigerWu
Back in college I bought some of that pheromone stuff that was supposed to attract women.
It didn't work and I started getting a rash on my neck.
this is what attracts - maybe not all - but certainly many women - could also be just digital - but has to be known about by them
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"Forum members reveal their secrets: how to get women."
Quote: EvenBobMost women no matter what they look like have self-esteem problems so they are attracted to persistence. If you go after them in a nice way persistently you have a good chance of succeeding. Being persistent elevates their self worth and makes you attractive to them.
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Oh dear ******* god, do NOT listen to this man for advice on how to pick up women....
Quote: gordonm888I wonder what fraction of the forum members (or regulars) are married. It is interesting to read the advice being given, but I doubt that Wizard will be opening a new WOO page:
"Forum members reveal their secrets: how to get women."
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If you ever have a few minutes with nothing to do, google Gary Brodsky. Back in the 80s, when black and white comics were the rage, he owned his printing press and made good money printing other people's comics. He tried publishing his own, but none clicked. As a joke, in one of his comics, he did a column on how unattractive, obese, pimple-faced kids could attract girls and ran a clearly fake ad to buy his book for $39.99. To his shock, dozens of people ordered the book. Never one to turn down money, he went to a used book store, bought a few books on the subject, and in two weeks had a book on how to pick up girls. He cut and pasted most of it into a second book- How to pick up Women. He soon had a small publishing empire selling books on how to dominate a woman, what women really want, why women go for mamas boys, why women go for bad boys, why having gay friends makes it easier to pick up girls, 50 great ideas for first dates, and most importantly- how to treat your ex's when it is over.
Today, Gary would be best described as an incel, but he sold a couple hundred thousand booklets on the subject. You don't have to be an expert to give advice, just know more than the person seeking it.
1) Become a computer programmer
2) Spend all available free time analyzing, disecting, and watching sports.
3) Drive a baby blue station wagon.
4) Dismiss everyone that watches TV shows or movies
5) Ask women if they would like to try your big wiener (referring to the gas station hot dog that you are eating).
Quote: DRichForum members reveal their secrets: how not to get women.
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Try to impress them with card tricks.
Quote: TigerWuQuote: DRichForum members reveal their secrets: how not to get women.
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Try to impress them with card tricks.
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If you are going there, I would have to include "Ride a unicycle".
Quote: DRich
If you are going there, I would have to include "Ride a unicycle".
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I threw my unicycle in the dumpster last week.
Quote: TigerWuQuote: DRich
If you are going there, I would have to include "Ride a unicycle".
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I threw my unicycle in the dumpster last week.
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The Wizard may suspend you for such a transgression.
I think Billy Joel said it best: All you need are looks and a whole lot of money!Quote: gordonm888"Forum members reveal their secrets: how to get women."
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Quote: DRichQuote: TigerWuQuote: DRichForum members reveal their secrets: how not to get women.
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Try to impress them with card tricks.
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If you are going there, I would have to include "Ride a unicycle".
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Well, many women have told me that they like guys who make them laugh. Card tricks and unicycle antics certainly have potential, if you can keep it from being awkward.
If you can make mimosas and a decent florentine omelette, it could work.
Quote: Dieter
Well, many women have told me that they like guys who make them laugh. Card tricks and unicycle antics certainly have potential, if you can keep it from being awkward.
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If you are suave and entertaining enough to pick up a woman using card tricks, you don't need the card tricks to begin with, if that makes sense.
Quote: TigerWuQuote: EvenBobMost women no matter what they look like have self-esteem problems so they are attracted to persistence. If you go after them in a nice way persistently you have a good chance of succeeding. Being persistent elevates their self worth and makes you attractive to them.
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Oh dear ******* god, do NOT listen to this man for advice on how to pick up women....
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I have no idea how to 'pick up' women, I'm not 20 years old anymore. I know how to pursue women that you might want to have a relationship with, picking them up is for adolescents. I guess you would know more about that than me. I'm sure your advice would be to have an expensive car and to hint around about how big your dick is. LOL You probably know as much about women as you do about roulette which is to say, almost nothing.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuQuote: EvenBobMost women no matter what they look like have self-esteem problems so they are attracted to persistence. If you go after them in a nice way persistently you have a good chance of succeeding. Being persistent elevates their self worth and makes you attractive to them.
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Oh dear ******* god, do NOT listen to this man for advice on how to pick up women....
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I have no idea how to 'pick up' women, I'm not 20 years old anymore. I know how to pursue women that you might want to have a relationship with, picking them up is for adolescents. I guess you would know more about that than me. I'm sure your advice would be to have an expensive car and to hint around about how big your dick is. LOL You probably know as much about women as you do about roulette which is to say, almost nothing.
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Just go MGTOW. Had a girlfriend for a short while. Did not see a ton of point in it. I guess if you want kids and to do the family thing. Otherwise mostly not worth the effort. Too many little games you have to play. Guys like Tesla and the Wright bros did it right. Put that energy to something useful.
Quote: AZDuffman
Just go MGTOW. Had a girlfriend for a short while. Did not see a ton of point in it. I guess if you want kids and to do the family thing. Otherwise mostly not worth the effort. Too many little games you have to play. Guys like Tesla and the Wright bros did it right. Put that energy to something useful.
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I am just the opposite. I feel like I always need and want to be in a relationship. To each their own.
Quote: TigerWuQuote: Dieter
Well, many women have told me that they like guys who make them laugh. Card tricks and unicycle antics certainly have potential, if you can keep it from being awkward.
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If you are suave and entertaining enough to pick up a woman using card tricks, you don't need the card tricks to begin with, if that makes sense.
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An icebreaker gimmick often helps significantly.
It is a nonthreatening excuse to talk for a bit, so that she can see my suave entertaining side up close.
Quote: AZDuffman
Just go MGTOW. Had a girlfriend for a short while. Did not see a ton of point in it.
there is this tiny little thing that exists in this world - love and affection
obviously means nothing to you
but it does to many others
.
Quote: lilredroosterQuote: AZDuffman
Just go MGTOW. Had a girlfriend for a short while. Did not see a ton of point in it.
there is this tiny little thing that exists in this world - love and affection
obviously means nothing to you
but it does to many others
.
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Many think they have it but few do.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: lilredroosterQuote: AZDuffman
Just go MGTOW. Had a girlfriend for a short while. Did not see a ton of point in it.
there is this tiny little thing that exists in this world - love and affection
obviously means nothing to you
but it does to many others
.
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Many think they have it but few do.
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and exactly how would you know that___________?
have you done a study__________?
how many subjects have you interviewed_______________?
.
Quote: EvenBob
I have no idea how to 'pick up' women, I'm not 20 years old anymore. I know how to pursue women that you might want to have a relationship with, picking them up is for adolescents. I guess you would know more about that than me. I'm sure your advice would be to have an expensive car and to hint around about how big your dick is. LOL You probably know as much about women as you do about roulette which is to say, almost nothing.
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Rule 6 - Keep it PG
Rule 1 - No Personal Insults
Days: 3
Quote: EvenBob
know as much as you do about roulette [snipped]
a person who is only moderately intelligent and knows nothing about roulette could learn everything that is worth knowing about roulette in less than 30 minutes
.
Quote: EvenBob
I have no idea how to 'pick up' women, I'm not 20 years old anymore. I know how to pursue women that you might want to have a relationship with, picking them up is for adolescents. I guess you would know more about that than me.
Apparently I do, because your advice is terrible.
Quote:I'm sure your advice would be to have an expensive car and to hint around about how big your dick is.
That is also terrible advice.
Quote:LOL You probably know as much about women as you do about roulette which is to say, almost nothing.
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Judging from your comments and posts I can safely say I know more about both women and roulette than you. I would take that to the bank.
Quote: Dieter
Rule 6 - Keep it PG
Rule 1 - No Personal Insults
Days: 3
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Nice.
Quote: lilredroosterQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: lilredroosterQuote: AZDuffman
Just go MGTOW. Had a girlfriend for a short while. Did not see a ton of point in it.
there is this tiny little thing that exists in this world - love and affection
obviously means nothing to you
but it does to many others
.
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Many think they have it but few do.
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and exactly how would you know that___________?
have you done a study__________?
how many subjects have you interviewed_______________?
.
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How would I know that? Well, about half of marriages end in divorce. Of what is left some positive number are unhappy and another positive number are neutral. Put another way, you have a better chance coming out ahead just flat-betting red night after night.
Have I done a study? Why would I need to. The divorce number is out there. The rest any adult who pays attention sees it.
How many subjects have you interviewed? Many. I have heard from unhappy couple members all my life.
Now, throw in that there is not one moment in my life that I wanted kids and you have what a waste of time I see it as. Some may disagree. But some play Big 6 and love that. Instead of all the little relationship games I prefer to play poker or try to make a movie. Or any number of other things.
Quote: AZDuffman
Just go MGTOW.
maybe many here don't know what that is
thought I'd help out
from Wikipedia:
"Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW /ˈmɪɡtaʊ/) is an anti-feminist, misogynistic, mostly-online community advocating for men to separate themselves from women and from a society which they believe has been corrupted by feminism. The community is a part of the manosphere, a collection of anti-feminist websites and online communities that also includes the men's rights movement, incels, and pickup artists.
Like other manosphere communities, MGTOW overlaps with the alt-right and white supremacist movements, and it has been implicated in online harassment of women. The Southern Poverty Law Center categorizes MGTOW as a part of the male supremacist ideology."
what a huge surprise that you're into that
surprise, surprise, surprise
.
But those MGTOW guys and incels are total losers for sure....LOL
30 minutes?? Roulette can be fully described with one short sentence:Quote: lilredroosterQuote: EvenBob
know as much as you do about roulette [snipped]
a person who is only moderately intelligent and knows nothing about roulette could learn everything that is worth knowing about roulette in less than 30 minutes
.
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There are 38 numbers on the wheel and all bets pay as if there were 36.
I doubt there’s an easier game
Spend most of your time at the craps table, sports bars and strip clubs. Normally there aren’t many women at these places…not “dateable” ones anywayQuote: DRichForum members reveal their secrets: how not to get women.
Quote: Ace2Spend most of your time at the craps table, sports bars and strip clubs. Normally there aren’t many women at these places…not “dateable” ones anywayQuote: DRichForum members reveal their secrets: how not to get women.
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there's not many women at WOV either
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: AZDuffman
Just go MGTOW.
maybe many here don't know what that is
thought I'd help out
from Wikipedia:
"Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW /ˈmɪɡtaʊ/) is an anti-feminist, misogynistic, mostly-online community advocating for men to separate themselves from women and from a society which they believe has been corrupted by feminism. The community is a part of the manosphere, a collection of anti-feminist websites and online communities that also includes the men's rights movement, incels, and pickup artists.
Like other manosphere communities, MGTOW overlaps with the alt-right and white supremacist movements, and it has been implicated in online harassment of women. The Southern Poverty Law Center categorizes MGTOW as a part of the male supremacist ideology."
what a huge surprise that you're into that
surprise, surprise, surprise
.
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Article needs an edit. Sorry, but MGTOW while anti-feminist (a good thing) there is nothing "misogynistic" about it. Oh, women say it is but because the men in it are not paying attention to them. MGTOW is looking at the misandry of feminism, the way men get treated by the family courts, and see how many men in relationships are unhappy then saying "the hell with it, I will enjoy life on my own." And that is why feminists write articles like the quote you provided. They do not like men not toeing their feminist line.
That the Southern Poverty Law Center is against it alone shows it is a good thing. I will not go further there as to avoid making a political post. But I would ask why feminism is held up as some great thing but a movement by men with many of the same goals is held up as bad? Doing so is misandry.
