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September 5th, 2018 at 8:47:13 PM permalink
Car doesn't need to go thru a visible scanner. Technology is fairly long range. Seems that it is in use there from what I can tell. That is only a minor problem. Definitely need to be aware of it if in use.
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September 5th, 2018 at 9:40:24 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

I would go if I could be a stowaway in the RV. Of course I would contribute to group costs. But there is no way in hell I am buying a $1200 ticket to use some porta potties.

I've read via several different websites that a Burning Man ticket this year was closer to $400.00. Wikipedia mentions the cost was $425.00 this year, not counting $80.00 for a vehicle pass. Wiz, did you really pay $1,200.00??
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September 5th, 2018 at 10:53:12 PM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

I've read via several different websites that a Burning Man ticket this year was closer to $400.00. Wikipedia mentions the cost was $425.00 this year, not counting $80.00 for a vehicle pass. Wiz, did you really pay $1,200.00??

There's an $800 unicycle fee.
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September 6th, 2018 at 12:04:43 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

There's an $800 unicycle fee.



Either that or they charge extra for dildo jousting. Like WTF is that?
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September 6th, 2018 at 12:49:17 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Either that or they charge extra for dildo jousting. Like WTF is that?



You're DEFiANtLy asking the expert ;)
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September 6th, 2018 at 1:03:23 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Either that or they charge extra for dildo jousting. Like WTF is that?



Is this the hands-free dildo jousting, or just regular dildo jousting?
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September 6th, 2018 at 1:25:32 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Is this the hands-free dildo jousting, or just regular dildo jousting?



I have no idea, but there seems to be a balance beam involved as well. Will have to wait for the Wizard to break this down.

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That said, I did play some cribbage with one of my camp-mates for modest stakes and lost $3 betting on dildo jousting. My advice there is bet on the one who can balance on the beam better.

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September 6th, 2018 at 5:45:50 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Either that or they charge extra for dildo jousting. Like WTF is that?

I assume you jam a giant dildo in your anus then turn around ass to ass and then try to knock the other guy's dildo out of his ass?

I don't need any #meetoo backlash so I won't go into my theory about female dildo jousting.

Whatever the case Burning man just sounds like a giant sex party while pretending to be an art festival.

No honey, it's just an art festival where they burn stuff, I swear.
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September 6th, 2018 at 6:15:32 AM permalink
since this thread is going in the direction...

wiz, how's the Orgy tent? :)
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September 6th, 2018 at 8:18:43 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I assume you jam a giant dildo in your anus then turn around ass to ass and then try to knock the other guy's dildo out of his ass?



All of your fanciful yearning aside, I must inform you that you are completely wrong.

Sorry, you'll need to find another way to have someone pack your fudge.

see: Burning Man Dildo Jousting Video
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September 6th, 2018 at 9:17:52 AM permalink
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Wiz, did you really pay $1,200.00??



Yes, I did. I should research this but I think there is a complicated system of releasing tickets in bunches and each release has different prices. It is possible I bought the ticket from a broker. A friend bought it for me, so I'm not sure.
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September 6th, 2018 at 9:25:59 AM permalink
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Is this the hands-free dildo jousting, or just regular dildo jousting?



You have to hold you hands behind your back, stand on a beam, and try to either knock the other person off the beam of knock the nuts off his dildo.
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September 6th, 2018 at 9:47:36 AM permalink
I admit today's Burning Man video is not my best, but night videography is always tough. What I did was strap a GoPro to my head and rode from 6:00 and L to the Temple. At night, Burning Man is a sea of colorful lights. However, the video didn't capture the brilliance of it well. Nevertheless, as long as I took the trouble to shoot it, I may as well put the *&%$ on YouTube. I hope it at least gives some idea of what it's like to ride around at night.


Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgoAhzmI68g

In other news, can I trouble you guys to give a quick click to my unicycle video and let me know if you have to suffer through an ad. I had a copyright infringement complaint filed on it over some music somebody else was playing you can barely hear in the background. Thank you.
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September 6th, 2018 at 9:59:27 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

...In other news, can I trouble you guys to give a quick click to my unicycle video and let me know if you have to suffer through an ad. I had a copyright infringement complaint filed on it over some music somebody else was playing you can barely hear in the background. Thank you.




I just watched the video closely, and no ad appeared before or during it.
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September 6th, 2018 at 10:15:19 AM permalink
Quote: ChesterDog

I just watched the video closely, and no ad appeared before or during it.



Thank you.

Getting back to ticket prices, it is rather complicated, but here is my understanding:

1. 5,000 tickets are available through a "pre-sale." Where you can buy up to four tickets at $990 each and four more at $1200. This is how I got mine, I think. Somebody else purchased it.
2. 30,000 tickets are available in a "group sale" at $425 each. You have to be part of a large group that has some kind of mutant vehicle or art installation to qualify.
3. Another 2,500 will be sold in another "group sale" later in the summer.
4. About 26,000 tickets will be sold in the "main sale" for $425 each. Maximum of two tickets per person.
5. Some additional $1200 tickets will be sold known as "limited tickets"
6. Finally, there is a program called STEP where you can put back into the pool unwanted tickets and there is a queue to buy them, which I hear is very long for a very small number of tickets.

Source: Burning Man 2018 Ticket Information

Also, a great source for all things Burning Man is the Project Pterodactyl YouTube channel. Here is her video on getting tickets:


Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coDqbxTAC88
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September 6th, 2018 at 10:36:15 AM permalink
No ad on the uni video for me.

The night ride was interesting. Was the music broadcast all over, or were there speaker towers built around the camp?

Was it unusual that no one stopped to engage you in a conversation or even wave hello?
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September 6th, 2018 at 10:54:51 AM permalink
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No ad on the uni video for me.



Thanks. I guess the complaintant just filed a right to monetize it, but hasn't exercised it. He probably didn't bother over the low number of view.

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The night ride was interesting. Was the music broadcast all over, or were there speaker towers built around the camp?



There was no speaker towers. Each camp provided its own music. There was a rule that it couldn't be more than so my decibels, I think 90, loud. I was afraid Burning Man would be too noisy, but that wasn't a problem at all. I'd say the biggest source of noise pollution was the generators for the sea of RVs. There was one right next to my tent. Thank goodness I brought along ear muffs.

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Was it unusual that no one stopped to engage you in a conversation or even wave hello?



No. At night it is such a sea of bikes that it would be ridiculous to engage every single bicycle rider. On my unicycle I got a ton of compliments and offers to have a beer. However, being on a bike is no big deal. If I go back, I'd like to bring a penny farthing, if I can get one with a wide enough tire.

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September 6th, 2018 at 11:23:38 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'd say the biggest source of noise pollution was the generators for the sea of RVs. There was one right next to my tent. Thank goodness I brought along ear muffs.

I hope you are aware of the carbon monoxide gas coming from those generators?

Every year we lose people here in the channel in Lake Havasu, and also lose swimmers swimming in Lake Powell behind houseboats that leave their gens running. Laying near the ground like that, you are inviting poisoning.

If you are on the ground again like that, consider a gas alarm.
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September 6th, 2018 at 11:43:47 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'd say the biggest source of noise pollution was the generators for the sea of RVs. There was one right next to my tent. Thank goodness I brought along ear muffs.


Uggh
Generators
Hate them at the festivals I camp at
Luckily at the festival I camp at, generators are banned except for 1 area
How are the temps at night? The only thing I cant run without power is my RV AC

I boon dock a lot. RV without a hookup
Without power, I can easily take a hot shower. Propane heats the hot water tank. RV battery powers the water pump.
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Propane gas to cook
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September 6th, 2018 at 1:06:22 PM permalink
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How are the temps at night?



The temperature was nice at night. Around 50 I'd say at midnight. I took along way too much cold-weather clothing.
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September 6th, 2018 at 1:12:14 PM permalink
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On my unicycle I got a ton of compliments and offers to have a beer




You should have lighted up the wheel with LEDS. Surprised you didn't bring a tall unicycle.
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September 6th, 2018 at 1:37:41 PM permalink
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You should have lighted up the wheel with LEDS. Surprised you didn't bring a tall unicycle.



You're absolutely right. At least I had conventional bike lights. I don't even own a giraffe unicycle. However, I'd like to bring a penny farthing, should I return.
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September 6th, 2018 at 6:03:13 PM permalink
I assume 4k can buy a fair amount of hookers and blow. I'm sure the hookers can be paid to admire Rubix cubes, bowling pins, unicycles and penny farthings.
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September 6th, 2018 at 6:45:49 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I hope it at least gives some idea of what it's like to ride around at night.



I am amazed you didn't get lost.
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September 6th, 2018 at 7:50:35 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The temperature was nice at night. Around 50 I'd say at midnight. I took along way too much cold-weather clothing.




WTF do people need generators for?
These people are not camping, they are glamping.
I would only consider a generator if it was hot at nite and I needed AC to sleep
Otherwise, I am quite comfortable camping in an RV without a generator.
I just need a little electricity for lights and to power the water pump. RV battery works fine for that
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September 6th, 2018 at 8:49:25 PM permalink
Wizard’s stat padding, never seen so many double and triple posts. 🤔


Lol jk.

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September 6th, 2018 at 10:34:05 PM permalink


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September 7th, 2018 at 6:38:28 AM permalink
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I am amazed you didn't get lost.



The streets where people camp are very well organized. Out on the Playa you can use the Man and Temple as points of reference.
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September 7th, 2018 at 6:41:55 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

WTF do people need generators for?



Primarily air conditioning. Some people went without.

If I go back I'll look into staying in a yurt.


Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWxTXFj0VvY
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September 7th, 2018 at 6:46:08 AM permalink
For today's BM video I present another bike ride at night. This one goes along the Esplanade, which is like the Boardwalk of Black Rock City.


Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35X0ZCliOuI
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September 7th, 2018 at 7:01:17 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Primarily air conditioning. Some people went without.

If I go back I'll look into staying in a yurt.


Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWxTXFj0VvY



Looks like a lot of work
I prefer my simple popup with a hot shower
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When I bought my pop-up, that was my main requirement, it had to have a hot water shower.
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September 7th, 2018 at 9:22:52 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

I prefer my simple popup with a hot shower



Burning Man is so hot you'll be happy to take a cold shower. I took a bucket bath most evenings so I'd at least be clean the rest of the evening and at night. It would have been a waste to take a shower in the morning because you'd be filthy an hour later either way.
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September 7th, 2018 at 9:36:36 AM permalink
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September 7th, 2018 at 9:53:45 AM permalink
If I went I would take a ton of fireworks and have fireworks displays at night.
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September 7th, 2018 at 10:19:51 AM permalink
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If I went I would take a ton of fireworks and have fireworks displays at night.



The general public are not allowed to bring them in.
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September 7th, 2018 at 10:29:59 AM permalink
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The general public are not allowed to bring them in.



Nevada doesn't allow them? That's silly
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September 7th, 2018 at 12:10:28 PM permalink
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Nevada doesn't allow them? That's silly



I think it is the event organizers that don't allow them, not the state.
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September 7th, 2018 at 12:45:28 PM permalink
There's probably some good reason to have such an event in a dustbowl (cheap rent?). Salt flats might be better, if they allowed such things.

Fields can get super muddy. Old rock quarry?
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September 7th, 2018 at 1:58:23 PM permalink
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Burning Man is so hot you'll be happy to take a cold shower.



LOL @ seemingly inadvertent double entendre.
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September 7th, 2018 at 2:16:06 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I think it is the event organizers that don't allow them, not the state.



Its probably a safety issue
Bonnaroo which is as big as BM, 80k tickets bans glass. They search RV's for any glass. They will confiscate a bottle of wine or 6pack of glass bottles.
They also ban Bikes. I see BM does not ban bikes :-)
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September 7th, 2018 at 2:24:00 PM permalink
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I think it is the event organizers that don't allow them, not the state.



Isnt this in the middle of the desert? 1 s or 2, I can never remember.
Who owns land in the desert? Do the even people rent this or do they basically just squat.
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Isnt this in the middle of the desert? 1 s or 2, I can never remember.
Who owns land in the desert? Do the even people rent this or do they basically just squat.



The event is held on BLM land. I assume they lease the use of it to the BM organizers. It seems to me there are two layers of security when you go in, one for the BLM and one for the event organizers.

The whole thing is very well organized, I must say, and they seem to respect local, state, and federal laws.
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September 7th, 2018 at 3:08:05 PM permalink
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I assume 4k can buy a fair amount of hookers and blow. I'm sure the hookers can be paid to admire Rubix cubes, bowling pins, unicycles and penny farthings.



I'd also want to trim her toenails and have her shave my buttocks. Now, how much would a party like that cost?

It's actually cheaper. A party like that is only $3,000 and includes a hot tub full of Pepto-Bismol.
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September 7th, 2018 at 4:36:20 PM permalink
Sounds like Tiger and his old man back in their halcyon party days in sin city.
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September 8th, 2018 at 9:44:46 AM permalink
Today's Burning Man video is a few pieces by the Black Rock City Orchestra.


Direct: https://youtu.be/Kl3ZE2QJo1o
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September 8th, 2018 at 8:54:59 PM permalink
Just to warn you, this is a very boring BM story, but the kind of thing I think about.

At about 11:00 PM on Friday at Burning Man I was out on the Playa, near the Esplanade, with about an hour to kill before what was supposed to be the starting time (midnight) of the drone show. I noticed a phone booth that said "TALK TO GOD" on the top. So, I stood in a line of about five people to talk to god. As one person hung up and walked away I asked, "What did god say?" She said it was too personal to share. So I said, "Can you at least tell me whether god is male or female?" She said god's voice was female. Somebody else overheard this, who had evidently already had his turn, and commented, "With me, god was male."

However, the line was moving slowly and I saw a human being sitting alone nearby at a stand that simply said "advice," like Lucy's psychiatric help for five cents booth, except this one was free. So, I asked the guy sitting there for some advice. He babbled something that didn't help me at all, so I asked if I should be more specific. He said, and I'm paraphrasing, "Yeah, that would help." Then I asked him a question, that is too personal to repeat here. His advice was, and again I'm paraphrasing, to follow my heart and to heck with the consequences on others.

With no-one else waiting some small chat ensued and he offered me a drink. I confessed I forgot a cup (always carry around one at Burning Man). To make a long story short, he said he needed to take a piss and if I would watch the stand he would return with a drink for both of us. I said "You can count on me," and he went off.

A couple minutes later, a few guys showed up and asked questions like "What should I do tonight?" and "What do you recommend to do here?" I explained I'm a noob to BM, but did try to promote the drone show, which, to be honest, was not that great.

After those instant-gratification questions, a young woman of about 25 asked me, "What is the quickest way to enlightenment?" I tried to offer my two cents, but I don't think it was worth even one cent. I'm nowhere close to finding enlightenment, so what do I know? Then again, I don't think it can be found. If you want to really press me for my opinion about the big picture, it is that there is no meaning of life and that the best we can do is to distract ourselves from facing the abyss. However, I didn't want to depress her, so said a few miscellaneous things and then the guy who was supposed to be answering these questions came back. I handed the question to him and he also just babbled something off the top of his head. I think the girl left unimpressed with both us.

After all of this, there was just one guy talking to god, so I formed a new line. After the guy was done I asked him what god said. He didn't come back with a clear answer. Instead, he mumbled something about not being able to explain it.

Then I picked up the phone. God came on a few minutes later. I said "Are you there god? It's me, Mike." I hope you guys get the reference, but god didn't seem to. Anyway, I went right into the big questions like "What is the meaning of life?" and "Which religion comes closest to the real truth?" God just gave some ambiguous answers that seemed to be Jesus-like parables at the time. I walked away feeling confused and unfulfilled.

When I hung up the phone, I saw another guy standing, waiting for his turn. He asked me what I asked the previous guy, "What did god say?" I told him that god was rather vague and I needed time to process the interaction. He thanked me for my honesty. As I went back for my bike, he picked up the receiver.

Just today, as I went back over the evening for about the 20th time, I came to the assumption that perhaps god was just reading off a a list of fortune cookie like statements that one could read a lot into, but at the core, were pretty empty. None of god's answers specifically reflected what I asked.

In the end, I think it was a good joke, at least in my case. You had me there. Meanwhile, I'll keep searching.
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September 8th, 2018 at 9:07:41 PM permalink
I got the reference, wizard! Are you there,god? It's me, margaret, an interesting coming of age book from like 1972 and I think Judy Plume wrote it.:)
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September 8th, 2018 at 9:46:12 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

God just gave some ambiguous answers that seemed Jesus-like parables at the time.
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None of god's answers specifically reflected what I asked.


I suppose you could have asked him something specific like, "What is it going to take to get the Wizard of Vegas forum software working correctly again and when will that happen?"
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September 8th, 2018 at 10:29:16 PM permalink
A good BM orientation video:

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September 9th, 2018 at 4:46:48 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I got the reference, wizard! Are you there,god? It's me, margaret, an interesting coming of age book from like 1972 and I think Judy Plume wrote it.:)



Yes! I think I read every book by Judy Blume and Beverly Cleary in the mid 70's.
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