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July 26th, 2012 at 10:48:25 PM permalink
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My mom had me at 30 in the early 60's, and two more kids after me. But my parents didn't meet in high school.



These two obviously got married right out of HS and waited 13 years
to have kids? Not in the 50's.
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July 26th, 2012 at 10:50:16 PM permalink
See my previous post, if you would be so kind, EvenBob.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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July 26th, 2012 at 11:01:04 PM permalink
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These two obviously got married right out of HS and waited 13 years
to have kids? Not in the 50's.



I know at least two couples who had their first kid after 10 years of marriage because of fertility issues. You get what you get.
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July 27th, 2012 at 12:14:18 AM permalink
Why Back to the Future is Secretly Horrifying pretty much covers it for me.
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July 27th, 2012 at 12:23:55 AM permalink
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I can't really say how many tickets these movies sold in Europe, but James Bond was obviously popular in the UK. Franchises like Godzilla sold most of their box office tickets in Japan. You can't get those high ticket sales in Japan because there are not as many people.



I've never watched a Bond film in the cinema. Bond films were shown on TV as holiday specials growing up, and repeated relatively regularly. I think around 1995 they showed the whole series back to back every week for a while as well. I waited till Casino Royale was on TV back home before watching it, and I suspect the same will be true for Quantum of Solace.

Still love the films though...
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July 27th, 2012 at 1:02:07 AM permalink
Frank, you should have included Tarzan, or are those films not meeting your criteria?

In Walter Mitty moments I imagine producing some new Tarzan movies, totally different from what came before [geez, audiences way back when evidently loved the corniest, phoniest zoo scenes with African animals!]. But more like the old Tarzan comic books, which featured a much different Tarzan.

Walter Mitty out.
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July 27th, 2012 at 1:11:21 AM permalink
OMG, Tarzan. This guy was at one time an actual
superhero. Read the books, he was the archetype
for Superman, Batman, all of them. Cool, in control,
always victorious. Aloof, nothing rattled him, he
was King of the Jungle. Simpler times..
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July 27th, 2012 at 6:46:16 AM permalink
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Dialogue???

That hurt, Nareed.



The one line I find quotable in the entire series is when Doc Brown is looking at Marty's videocamera and marvels "A portable television studio."

Quote:

That's fair enough about the paradoxes, but check out that first link in my post above. There are a few plot holes not explained by that such as:



Plot holes are part of every movie. So long as they don't interfere with the story too much, the best thing to do is ignore them. My rule of thumb is: if the plot hole isn't big enough to drive a tank through, forget it.
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July 28th, 2012 at 11:35:35 AM permalink


Remakes are obviously as old as movies, but the desire today is to try and build a new franchise based on an old idea. Red Dawn was released slightly more than 6 months before Gorbachev became General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

The new Red Dawn was completed a few years ago, was originally made with China as leading the invasion, but it has been digitally re-mastered to make North Korea the principal antagonist. The movie makers suddenly realized that they might lose out on the Chinese market for the film.

I don't know how they will deal with the improbable scenario of North Korea launching an invasion of the USA.
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July 28th, 2012 at 11:54:57 AM permalink
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I don't know how they will deal with the improbable scenario of North Korea launching an invasion of the USA.



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July 28th, 2012 at 11:56:38 AM permalink
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Frank, you should have included Tarzan, or are those films not meeting your criteria? In Walter Mitty moments I imagine producing some new Tarzan movies



There certainly were a lot of movies before he moved to Television in the mid 1960's. I suppose that Tarzan probably sold more movie tickets than James Bond, but no records were kept. I suppose I was thinking of movie franchises in the age of color TV.

The last time they tried a live action Tarzan was in 1998 with Casper Von Dien after his success with Starship Troopers. The move was a horrendous bomb selling less than 1/2 million tickets. The 1984 movie with Christopher Lambert sold 13.6 million tickets, probably a disappointment considering the budget.

There is plans to try and start another Tarzan franchise next year with Kellan Lutz playing the role. Lutz has been acting professionally for about 8 years, and his biggest success has been a vampire on the Twilight franchise.



Ron Ely (who was the first TV Tarzan in 1966) was the 15th actor to officially play the role. He appeared in a publicity shoot with three of the previous actors.


  1. Tarzan and the Lost City (1998) Played by Casper Van Dien
  2. Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes (1984) Played by Christopher Lambert
  3. Tarzan's Deadly Silence (1970) Played by Ron Ely (#15) - archive footage from TV series
  4. Tarzan and the Jungle Boy (1968) Played by Mike Henry
  5. Tarzan and the Great River (1967) Played by Mike Henry
  6. Tarzan and the Valley of Gold (1966) Played by Mike Henry (#14)
  7. Tarzan's Three Challenges (1963) Played by Jock Mahoney
  8. Tarzan Goes to India (1962) Played by Jock Mahoney (#13)
  9. Tarzan the Magnificent (1960) Played by Gordon Scott
  10. Tarzan, the Ape Man (1959) Played by Denny Miller (#12)
  11. Tarzan's Greatest Adventure (1959) Played by Gordon Scott
  12. Tarzan's Fight for Life (1958) Played by Gordon Scott
  13. Tarzan and the Trappers (1958) (TV) Played by Gordon Scott
  14. Tarzan and the Lost Safari (1957) Played by Gordon Scott
  15. Tarzan's Hidden Jungle (1955) Played by Gordon Scott (#11)
  16. Tarzan and the She-Devil (1953) Played by Lex Barker
  17. Tarzan's Savage Fury (1952) Played by Lex Barker
  18. Tarzan's Peril (1951) Played by Lex Barker
  19. Tarzan and the Slave Girl (1950) Played by Lex Barker
  20. Tarzan's Magic Fountain (1949) Played by Lex Barker (#10)
  21. Tarzan and the Mermaids (1948) Played by Johnny Weissmuller
  22. Tarzan and the Huntress (1947) Played by Johnny Weissmuller
  23. Tarzan and the Leopard Woman (1946) Played by Johnny Weissmuller
  24. Tarzan and the Amazons (1945) Played by Johnny Weissmuller
  25. Tarzan's Desert Mystery (1943) Played by Johnny Weissmuller
  26. Tarzan Triumphs (1943) Played by Johnny Weissmuller
  27. Tarzan's New York Adventure (1942) Played by Johnny Weissmuller
  28. Tarzan's Secret Treasure (1941) Played by Johnny Weissmuller
  29. Tarzan Finds a Son! (1939) Played by Johnny Weissmuller
  30. Tarzan's Revenge (1938) Played by Glenn Morris (#9)
  31. Tarzan Escapes (1936) Played by Johnny Weissmuller
  32. The New Adventures of Tarzan (1935/I) Played by Bruce Bennett (#8)
  33. Tarzan and His Mate (1934) Played by Johnny Weissmuller
  34. Tarzan the Fearless (1933) Played by Buster Crabbe (#7)
  35. Tarzan the Ape Man (1932) Played by Johnny Weissmuller (#6)
  36. Tarzan the Tiger (1929) Played by Frank Merrill
  37. Tarzan the Mighty (1928) Played by Frank Merrill (#5)
  38. Tarzan and the Golden Lion (1927) Played by James Pierce (#4)
  39. The Adventures of Tarzan (1921) Played by Elmo Lincoln
  40. The Son of Tarzan (1920) Played by P. Dempsey Tabler (#3)
  41. The Revenge of Tarzan (1920) Played by Gene Pollar (#2)
  42. The Romance of Tarzan (1918) Played by Elmo Lincoln
  43. Tarzan of the Apes (1918) Played by Elmo Lincoln (#1)


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July 28th, 2012 at 12:42:40 PM permalink
James Bond is so awesome, they managed to get Bond and the Queen into the Olympic opening ceremonies. That has to be one of the greatest TV moments ever. At least for me.
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July 28th, 2012 at 1:05:04 PM permalink
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Tarzan's Three Challenges (1963) Played by Jock Mahoney
Tarzan Goes to India (1962) Played by Jock Mahoney
Tarzan the Magnificent (1960) Played by Gordon Scott
Tarzan's Greatest Adventure (1959) Played by Gordon Scott
Tarzan's Fight for Life (1958) Played by Gordon Scott
Tarzan and the Trappers (1958) (TV) Played by Gordon Scott
Tarzan and the Lost Safari (1957) Played by Gordon Scott
Tarzan's Hidden Jungle (1955) Played by Gordon Scott





I can't vouch for each one of these, but this was the best era [nostalgically for me]. I'd say the Tarzan in them was most similar to the comic book of the era.

Weissmuller I loved as a kid but I can no longer suffer those myself. Weissmuller might have had the best 'Tarzan Yell' though.

Of those, these are tops:

#1 Tarzan's Greatest Adventure (1959) Played by Gordon Scott
#2 Tarzan's Three Challenges (1963) Played by Jock Mahoney
#3 Tarzan Goes to India (1962) Played by Jock Mahoney
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July 28th, 2012 at 4:06:39 PM permalink
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I can't vouch for each one of these, but this was the best era [nostalgically for me]. I'd say the Tarzan in them was most similar to the comic book of the era.
Tarzan's Three Challenges (1963) Played by Jock Mahoney




  • Mike Henry was signed to play Tarzan first in movies and then a TV series after Jock Mahoney. He played for Pittsburgh Steelers (1959-1961) and Los Angeles Rams (1962-1964). Upon retiring from football he began shooting the movies.

    He shot all three movies back to back in 1965. He was bitten in the face by a chimp and had to have his chin sewn up with twenty stitches. In addition he suffered from dysentery, an ear infection, and a liver ailment. He quit the part, and sued the production company. He continued to star in movies and TV up until 1983, but has only had two small parts since then. He is almost age 76 and still alive, so he could probably play a cameo.
  • Ron Ely played the part for 57 TV episodes, but like Mike Henry he was mauled by animals. They used archive footage of him in 1970 to make a cheap movie after the series went off the air. He is also still alive (age 74).
  • Denny Miller played the part for one movie in 1959. He is still alive (age 78).

The other 12 actors who played the part prior to 1964 have died. Christopher Lambert and Casper Van Dien who tried to revive the part in 1984 and 1998 are still alive and well.
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July 28th, 2012 at 6:30:23 PM permalink
Followed up on the Tarzan yell, the famous one we all remember was indeed done by Weismuller himself. If you want to hear it again, it is at the top of this link.

Weismuller was an Olympic medalist in swimming... won several... and they showed him in Tarzan films swimming quite a bit. He would take on crocodiles fairly reliably.
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July 30th, 2012 at 9:37:00 AM permalink
Disney did an animated Tarzan in 1999. Tony Goldwyn, who is still probably best known as the bad guy in "Ghost", voiced the part. Can't imagine him doing it live, but it would be pretty funny.



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July 30th, 2012 at 10:00:04 AM permalink
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Weissmuller might have had the best 'Tarzan Yell' though.


I thought that title belonged to Carol Burnett:

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February 10th, 2013 at 12:21:03 AM permalink
Just saw the last Bourne movie. What was all the
fuss about, it was just as good as the one's with
Matt Damon, if not better.
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February 11th, 2013 at 10:26:21 AM permalink
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Just saw the last Bourne movie. What was all the
fuss about, it was just as good as the one's with
Matt Damon, if not better.



Was there a fuss? I don't recall any controversy. The movie kind of came and went quietly.

With Star Wars re-booting for at least three more films, it is positioned to pass Bond for most tickets sold, sometime in the next decade.
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