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MathExtremist
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October 28th, 2016 at 1:43:31 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Yes that's correct. He had already testified before Congress that the FBI had completed it's investigation.

Then yesterday the FBI found three new emails they need to determine the classification on. He had to update Congress.

The problem is his letter was so vague, Republicans are acting like it's a game changer.

This could be nothing more than a prelude, orchestrated at levels higher than Comey, to another announcement that the DoJ or FBI is also opening an investigation into Donald Trump for tax fraud (his returns and charitable contributions) or wire fraud (any of his fraudulent businesses communicating over phones/the Internet). If you haven't read the state charges against Trump U, they're worth reading:
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/trump.pdf
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2648169/People-v-Trump-University-Affirmation.pdf

So Trump advertised his school over the Internet, e.g.,
https://web.archive.org/web/20050507094124/http://www.trumpuniversity.com/
And here's what federal law says about wire fraud:
Quote: 18 USC 1343

Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1343

That NY State case is still ongoing, and if a court in NY rules that Trump committed fraud, I can't imagine that the same fact pattern wouldn't be respected by a federal court. In other words, regardless of whether Trump beats Hillary, he may be facing up to 20 years in federal prison.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice." -- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
crazydazy
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October 28th, 2016 at 1:44:03 PM permalink
Quote: Joeshlabotnik

Assuming, of course, that you'll get paid if you win, which is not exactly a given on the internet.

Also, what if Bovada is run by Trumpers, and they refuse to pay out because the election was "rigged"?



Good point, but I've yet to have trouble with payouts from bovada. Sometimes it takes a while but it always arrives.
crazydazy
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October 28th, 2016 at 1:46:44 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

I thought Trump not winning the nomination was free money. One of my friends, who is going to retire in his forties from sports betting, described it as "a CD paying 9%."

However, I think Hillary -300 is a good bet. Gonna make it now. Thanks for the tip.



It's moved now to -325, I think bovada closes action on october 30 so I would put the action down while I can.
MaxPen
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October 28th, 2016 at 5:09:41 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

FBI Director Comey's letter was so vague. Very irresponsible to give so few details when he knew the Trumpsters would jump all over this.



Comey is a friend of Clinton. He knows the ramifications of this action and its impact yet he still reopened the investigation. Why? Because it is in your face and really that blatantly hideous of a crime.
Here's the deal. Hillary is losing the election and she knows it. Her failure to win will cause her to go to prison if Trump is elected. She will be disqualified before the election so that Obama can pardon her. She can't quit or the money on her will take her out. She has to be disqualified. RNC calling for it now.
Sorry Hilltard's but the game is coming to its logical conclusion. ;-)
Joeshlabotnik
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October 28th, 2016 at 5:29:01 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Comey is a friend of Clinton.



Poor, poor sad Max. You probably aren't even aware that Comes led the Whitewater investigation, are you? That's why the Republicans chose him to lead the (failed) witch hunt.

But by all means, don't let that spoil your adversarial relationship with the facts.
Last edited by: Joeshlabotnik on Oct 28, 2016
AxelWolf
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October 28th, 2016 at 5:49:52 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

I thought Trump not winning the nomination was free money. One of my friends, who is going to retire in his forties from sports betting, described it as "a CD paying 9%."

However, I think Hillary -300 is a good bet. Gonna make it now. Thanks for the tip.

I would be more confident if it was a sports bet you said was good.

I'm on the fence.

How much can you get down at BV on this?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
MaxPen
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October 28th, 2016 at 7:24:27 PM permalink
Quote: Joeshlabotnik

Poor, poor sad Max. You probably aren't even aware that Comes led the Whitewater investigation, are you? That's why the Republicans chose him to lead the (failed) witch hunt.

But by all means, don't let that spoil your adversarial relationship with the facts.



Poor, poor you. Comeys brother works for the Clinton Foundation. There's a river you might want to canoe down.
MaxPen
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October 28th, 2016 at 7:28:48 PM permalink
All Hillary campaign events which there were 2-4 per day have been removed from Obama's schedule. The plan is in action. You will never know the charges she faces.
Joeshlabotnik
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October 28th, 2016 at 7:58:01 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Poor, poor you. Comeys brother works for the Clinton Foundation. There's a river you might want to canoe down.



I don't actually believe you, and you're not real big on supplying proof for your assertions, but what does it prove even in the very unlikely event that it's true? A person's brother works for an organization. Yessiree, that means that that person is automatically friends with the persons who own that organization!

You're going to have to work a little harder on your horse pucky, Max. This latest steaming pile isn't even remotely believable.
MaxPen
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October 28th, 2016 at 8:39:30 PM permalink
Ok ok. Peter Comey just does the Clinton Foundation taxes. Technically he works for another firm.

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