Vegasrider
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November 23rd, 2021 at 1:59:58 PM permalink
I used the word crime since their was an arrest. When you are dealing with the Indians on tribal land, its a new set of rules, laws, and who knows what else that most people are not aware of. You just don't mess with the Indians.
TDVegas
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November 23rd, 2021 at 2:03:47 PM permalink
My guess is most casinos would let this slide. Now if someone walks in with 15 cards and is using free play on each oneÖmight arouse some suspicion. Technically, itís probably against casino rules to knowingly use someone elseís players card.

This case sounds so extreme. Search warrant? Confiscate items? Arrest?

I know reservations have their own rules, but this one sounded pretty ridiculous.
darkoz
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November 23rd, 2021 at 2:07:11 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

I used the word crime since their was an arrest. When you are dealing with the Indians on tribal land, its a new set of rules, laws, and who knows what else that most people are not aware of. You just don't mess with the Indians.
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Let's exclude Indian casinos.

They are sovereign nation. You forfeit some of your civil rights going to those.

I would not hit Mohegan Sun in Connecticut but I have hit Mohegan Sun in Poconos or Atlantic City (Resorts).

The difference? The other two aren't on sovereign land and must abide by US Law! Regardless of ownership.
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November 23rd, 2021 at 2:10:58 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

.. the person who misuses thousands of player cards would be on the hook to pay back every penny earned not in his name.



Wrong!

Already had a casino try that.
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AxelWolf
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November 23rd, 2021 at 3:51:06 PM permalink
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Yeah....letís leave the car rental analogies to people with drivers licenses ;)
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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November 23rd, 2021 at 3:54:15 PM permalink
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We've had this debate before.

To the best of my knowledge all casinos say player club cards cannot be used by others.

And to the best of my knowledge I dont know of any law saying using another's casino card is a crime.

This can easily be resolved. If you believe it's a crime cite the law.

I remember checking the Nevada Gaming Regulations and I found nothing about using someone else's card to be a crime or even a violation.

Again, casinos can have their own club rules.
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In other states people have been arrested for using other peoples cards with that person's permission and had significant legal bills. I don't know if anyone has ever been prosecuted. From what I know it's always been settled, dropped, or pleased down.
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I haven't been in every state but I know Pennsylvania was a state of contention at one point.

A group of people were arrested and charged with using other people's cards. This came PRIOR to my own backroom at a Pennsylvania casino and once I proved I had the players permission was released same day with no arrest.

The people who did get arrested in the Pennsylvania case either were doing something different (uploading freeplay from employees or stealing pins) or didn't have the support of the players(that is the people whose cards they used didn't admit to giving permission to use the cards).
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That's your experiences with all this. You can't possibly know all the other situations that have come up.

Fortunately for me, I have been savvy enough to avoid such problems myself.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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November 23rd, 2021 at 3:59:23 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Quote: MDawg

.. the person who misuses thousands of player cards would be on the hook to pay back every penny earned not in his name.



Wrong!

Already had a casino try that.
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Yes that's wrong. And for the record I do not disagree with anything you are saying when it comes to the actual laws and what the truth is. But, the fact remains (you can even ask Bob N.) Just because it's not illegal doesn't mean you won't have legal issues and you won't have to pay out the ass to prove your case.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 23rd, 2021 at 4:05:45 PM permalink
Attempted possession of marijuana is not illegal in NYC but the NYPD has arrested thousands, if not tens of thousands for it.
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darkoz
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November 23rd, 2021 at 4:38:45 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Attempted possession of marijuana is not illegal in NYC but the NYPD has arrested thousands, if not tens of thousands for it.
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You are about a year late.

Marijuana is legal in NYS.

And not even certain what that has to do with casino cards. I never "attempt" to use them. When backroomed I usually just hand the cards over. They usually already have them flagged by that point.
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darkoz
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November 23rd, 2021 at 4:45:34 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: darkoz

Quote: MDawg

.. the person who misuses thousands of player cards would be on the hook to pay back every penny earned not in his name.



Wrong!

Already had a casino try that.
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Yes that's wrong. And for the record I do not disagree with anything you are saying when it comes to the actual laws and what the truth is. But, the fact remains (you can even ask Bob N.) Just because it's not illegal doesn't mean you won't have legal issues and you won't have to pay out the ass to prove your case.
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You have convinced me.

I'm handing everyone back their players cards over the weekend.

Searching online for a job now. Lots of 9-5 jobs available after the pandemic.

Maybe I will go for usher in a movie theater. I can watch free films as a sort of AP maneuver.
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