darkoz
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July 10th, 2018 at 9:36:16 AM permalink
Also it should be obvious the expired ID rule is just a governmnental money grab

Once you have proven your Identification to the government to their satisfaction there should be no reason you havr to pay money every few years to prove who you are again

And expired ID has all the info as the new ID besides a possible change of address. Nothing except expiration really changes
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July 12th, 2018 at 7:07:55 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Well your employers are stupid

ID purpose is to identify who you are

Does your identity change because its expired?

The state usually gives a 30 day Grace. Your company should too

BTW I dont think expired food is a good comparison to ID that is expired



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Sorry.

That's all I got.

Except. FWIW.

Once, I cashed out for $ 21k+. They did a w-9 and a CTR on me. Did not provide copies to me. I was required to provide ID to get paid.

Never heard a word about it from the IRS.
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July 13th, 2018 at 7:02:06 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

If it's a valid form of ID, I don't believe casinos can have their "own" policy to not accept them. You can't deny a valid form of government ID because it's your "internal policy," right?



Sure you can. Casinos, like any other business, reserve the right to refuse service to anyone (perhaps AC being an exception). In WA, it's common for bars to refuse vertical IDs even if they're not expired.
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July 13th, 2018 at 7:26:38 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

Sure you can. Casinos, like any other business, reserve the right to refuse service to anyone (perhaps AC being an exception). In WA, it's common for bars to refuse vertical IDs even if they're not expired.



I guess bars are wary of accepting vertical ID's because that means the to be customer was born in the 90's meaning they are in their 20's. I'd be wary of accepting a 90's ID myself if I did not have a scanner. In my job, we have scanners that automatically tell the customer's age on the screen. I am assuming that the bars don't have scanners like I do at Walgreen's.

There's nothing stopping a 16 year from buying a fake ID that says he was born in 1997 and using said fake ID to buy a beer if the bartender does not have a scanner. Case in point. I had a young teen attempting to buy alcohol show me an obviously fake ID that said she was born in 1992. My red alert flag was glaring as she even looked 14. I showed the ID to my managers and they told me to reject it. My coworker said something like,"She's obviously a young teen." For good measure, I scanned the ID in front of her and it was rejected. She said something like,"Okay, I'm sorry, I'll leave, bye," and ran off.
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July 14th, 2018 at 5:43:27 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Case in point. I had a young teen attempting to buy alcohol show me an obviously fake ID that said she was born in 1992. My red alert flag was glaring as she even looked 14. I showed the ID to my managers and they told me to reject it. My coworker said something like,"She's obviously a young teen." For good measure, I scanned the ID in front of her and it was rejected. She said something like,"Okay, I'm sorry, I'll leave, bye," and ran off.



She must have been a runaway. Most teens that age know where they can get away with buying alcohol.
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July 14th, 2018 at 6:07:06 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs



Once, I cashed out for $ 21k+. They did a w-9 and a CTR on me. Did not provide copies to me. I was required to provide ID to get paid.

Never heard a word about it from the IRS.



CTR's are never given to the patron, they are now just filed online with FINCEN within 15 days of the occurrence.
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July 14th, 2018 at 10:06:10 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Also it should be obvious the expired ID rule is just a governmnental money grab

Once you have proven your Identification to the government to their satisfaction there should be no reason you havr to pay money every few years to prove who you are again

And expired ID has all the info as the new ID besides a possible change of address. Nothing except expiration really changes


And your photo - which is pretty much the only reason passports expire.
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July 14th, 2018 at 7:40:03 PM permalink
In most states, an expired ID is not a legal ID. I have worked in NJ, NY, MI, CA, NV. We were not allowed to accept an expired ID for any type of financial transaction. Even if it expired an hour ago, we could not take it unless you had the renewal paper from the DMV.

Now, I don't know what the state would do if you were driving on an expired license.
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July 15th, 2018 at 5:18:14 PM permalink
Itís hard to say for sure. There was a lot going on in your post, any one of which could be reason as to why the pit boss was asking for id. My guess is that years ago when you signed up for a players card they put the expiration date in their system. When you came back and their system knew it, it may prompt the pit boss to ask for id to update their system. So he may have a legitimate reason for asking for it. With that being said, pit bosses and security will say or do anything and blatantly lie about the reason why they are doing something. The most common being asking a young person for id when they know theyíre over 21.

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Zcore13
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July 15th, 2018 at 5:25:28 PM permalink
Quote: Sandybestdog



Donít ever trust a suit or a badge in a casino. They are all scum.



Hmmm. I wear a suit in the Casino. I guess you just insulted me.


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