Nagaworld, Phnom Penh Cambodia:

Thought I'd add a short write up on Nagaworld in Phnom Penh.

This casino started as a "boat" and has evolved into a four star type of place on the river in downtown Phnom Penh.

I went twice, last week, wasn't staying there.

As you might expect, the most action and popular game is Baccarat. The main casino floor is divided into two sections. Something called "No Commission" baccarat is offered with a $20.usd min. bet and remained packed, a half size table. I don't know what the rule change is that makes this possible. I asked three people, a dealer, a pit boss, and some sort of casino host. All three said it was because players couldn't touch the cards. This of course makes no sense to a westerner like me. When I told them "that makes no sense?" they looked at me and said "play here sir?".

Upstairs there are to VIP gaming areas. Mostly full size baccarat and a few single zero roulette tables. I may have noticed a black jack table as well. No craps any place. Plenty of slot machines for those inclined.

Overall there were a lot of players in all areas and this was a weekday afternoon and night. They are making real money. The corporate site indicates it is profitable. One what I would guy "a guy who hangs out there" told me it attracted players because there were no taxes on winnings. I just listened to him.

The rules and odds seemed standard or normal. The cards are shuffled using an automatic machine I guess you guys and gals know more about than me. The dealer deals a couple hands then takes the cards and puts them in the back of the machine. How deep the shuffle goes etc. I have no idea. Upstairs was a standard shoe at the baccarat. I was told eight decks.

It's a nice place, smoking allowed, some sort of shows, and a choice of food venues. The buffet on the casino floor wasn't impressive.($9.00usd) Hookers running around and playing but not over bearing. Some sort of disco attached which I was later told also attracts hookers looking for those willing to overpay for same.

Not sure if links allowed so I'll post them in a follow up and see! Cheers. Nok

www.nagaworld.com

www.nagacorp.com

from their website:

Another version available in our Casino is the “No Tax Baccarat”.
The playing rules are identical with the normal commission Baccarat with one exception:
All bets are paid 1 to 1 except winning Banker bets on 6 points which are paid half.

That's the same as the UK variant that the Wiz talks about, here:
https://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/appendix/6/#uk

Quote: WongBo

from their website:

Another version available in our Casino is the “No Tax Baccarat”.
The playing rules are identical with the normal commission Baccarat with one exception:
All bets are paid 1 to 1 except winning Banker bets on 6 points which are paid half.

Thanks for your effort. Seems such an easy thing to "say" or explain when asked. The dealer was Cambodian, the pit boss Cambodian, and the host seemed to be Chinese but I'm not sure.

I might also mention/add, they have several of those mechanical roulette wheels where the machines surround the wheel. The min. bets were of course lower. I don't know if these wheels are fixed or random but again, plenty of people playing them. I noticed you could put bills in for credits. I guess I"m behind the times but that to me was interesting. How you got winnings I don't know. They also had Caribbean Stud poker and another game of that sorts labeled Texas Hold Em. No live poker that I could see or find.

There is poker upstairs, 3 tables, it starts at 2 PM each day with a $50 buy-in tournament. The poker tables are open every day, the dealers always look bored as hell. Two things about this place. First, if you have sunglasses or a hat on anyplace close to a gaming table, you will be quickly surrounded by mean looking goons. This place has a higher goons-per-player ratio than any place I've ever been. Second, they don't have a gift shop or snack bar. But they do have a sign pointing to a snack bar. There just isn't one there. If you want a snack, you will have to walk outside to the street vendors. On the way to getting snacks, you will get about 20 guys asking you if you want a Tuk Tuk. Don't pay more than 2000 riel (50 cents) for a coke, you may have to talk them down. A decent market is a 10 minute walk. The downstairs buffet is sick, never eat there. The upstairs buffet costs $25, way overpriced. Best choice is to order off the menu from the buffet restaurant upstairs or go outside. If you get really hot, hey no problem it's a four-diamond place, just go to the pool. Oh, no pool. Lots of creepy old white guys with young Cambo's hanging on them. Having a kid on the gaming floor isn't a problem, just set them on a chair and let them sleep while you play.

Quote: MrMs

There is poker upstairs, 3 tables, it starts at 2 PM each day with a $50 buy-in tournament. The poker tables are open every day, the dealers always look bored as hell. Two things about this place. First, if you have sunglasses or a hat on anyplace close to a gaming table, you will be quickly surrounded by mean looking goons. This place has a higher goons-per-player ratio than any place I've ever been. Second, they don't have a gift shop or snack bar. But they do have a sign pointing to a snack bar. There just isn't one there. If you want a snack, you will have to walk outside to the street vendors. On the way to getting snacks, you will get about 20 guys asking you if you want a Tuk Tuk. Don't pay more than 2000 riel (50 cents) for a coke, you may have to talk them down. A decent market is a 10 minute walk. The downstairs buffet is sick, never eat there. The upstairs buffet costs $25, way overpriced. Best choice is to order off the menu from the buffet restaurant upstairs or go outside. If you get really hot, hey no problem it's a four-diamond place, just go to the pool. Oh, no pool. Lots of creepy old white guys with young Cambo's hanging on them.

Wow! Your first post????? I guess I'm being watched! but I"m back in Thailand??? I didn't win that much?

True about wearing a hat. But the guys were quite friendly and nice about it, not goons or goonish. I talked the first guy out of it saying my eyes hurt from the lights, the second guy said take it off for the cameras, period. They have a lot of people because labor is very cheap!

The guy I referred to had ordered chicken wings from a drink waitress, $5.usd, about six wings and rice. Inside, he was at a table near the bar inside the casino, right side/section.

Creepy old white guys where? Not inside the casino? The crystal meth addicted hookers from Walkabout go to the casino disco/lounge at night so I'm told but in Cambodia, my experiences at least, no so much of the "hanging on". It's straight to the room(or bathroom in the case of Walkabout). You would have to be nuts to hang out with a young hooker there with so many NGO's around in their Range Rovers and Lexus SUV's taking photos and looking to earn their stipends from abroad.

Some white guys hire one for several days at a time. Then they figure out, too late, they have to feed their new friend, so they end up in awkward situations at the restaurants, having no conversation at all, with everyone knowing what it's about. Go to the buffet for lunch and you will see. They are not at the gaming tables, you are right. The hooker trade is very sad. Next to the fallout from the genocide the KR did to the country, the child hookers rate second on the tragedy scale.

Greetings...I've been back in Nagaworld the last two days. They are still doing a remarkable custom, a lot of gamblers around. While this may be old news to many of you, the company mentioned elsewhere "Rapid" has sold/leased them a bunch of machines which allow you to play low stakes roulette, baccarat, or sic bo. I'd not seen it before so was intrigued to a limited extend. The live table games still are at $60.usd min but these machines, well low, much lower. I only played the roulette one and it was a dime. The spin is a live table, same with baccarat, a live deal to boxes which a camera captures and displays around the area where the machines are. All the machines allow all three games. Still no American craps.

In the live black jack, they have an auto shuffle machine and bury one card prior each hand dealt. Again, maybe common back in the USA but was new thing for me to observe. The rules seemed in order but I can't post them. Something about splitting aces, I think you only get one card etc..

All sorts of hired help around, good drink service, live music(in the afternoon, must be at night as well), nice atmosphere other than the smoke which seems to be common among Asian gamblers. Chain smoke to a man and woman.

I had a snack, some noodle dish, it was good! Very good, cost apx $6.50usd which is double other venues but it was good. No complaints.

Not many hookers around during the day anyhow.

The business they are doing is what is so surprising for those of us who live in the area. I guess the Sands in Singapore and all of Macau are also doing well.

Hello and Happy New Year. Back in NagaWorld this past week. Nothing much has changed. They are making money, see on the web site and in person a new wing under construction.

I had two customer service/consideration issues. I won't bore you with the details but should have left, instead, made a low four figure contribution to the place. One should never gamble when he's angry.

It's clean and comfortable despite a lot of chain smoking. You read it here first, "something wrong" as the fact nothing has changed makes it kind of boring. Maybe I'm crazy but I predict it will decline in profitability. So, as it's listed on the Hong Kong Exchange I'm going to look in to selling it I think they call it "short" predicting the stock value/price will go down.

Cheers and take care.

Happy New Year of the SNAKE.

This video of The SNAKE is 3 months old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff-Db6YoGjQ

I've been back in Nagaworld for the Khmer New Year. It's been crowded.

The staff is very friendly, food comps are easy to get. Room comps another story.

I noticed on the BJ tables it is a continuous shuffle machine, BJ pays 2 to 1, and the dealer stands on soft 17.

The Baccarat at the lower limits uses the "bank winner with a six pays 50%" which is always jammed packed, $40.usd min..

The $100.usd min Baccarat tables all use eight decks, shuffled in Japan and packaged, then cut by the dealer prior to insertion into the shoe. The shoe has a lid on it but doesn't meddle with the cards. People do handle the cards even on the smaller tables.

All the roulette is single zero with all losers on a "0" drop/point. All other payouts seem normal. $25.usd outside and $5.usd inside min on normal tables. They have plenty of other machine as well as those surrounded by electronic playing boards with a live dealer.

Sic Bo, Some sort of Texas Hold Em (vs. the dealer) and a few other Chinese games I've never heard of.

The casual food is good and there are "free" water and juice dispensers all over the place.

Slots everywhere, electronic.

When you are winning or playing black(actually, $100.usd is a gold chip) you quickly become surrounded by hookers and other lookers on. Not really comfortable but for every one of them there are two security guards. I asked one dealer about the wages and she said "$300.usd" a month for a dealer. Tips only about $20.usd a month, yes...shared, and a month. There are a lot of people working there.

I've still not stayed there, preferring to stay at an old favorite haunt. However, the rooms must be nice.

I've won some and lost some and overall am about $500.usd down after three sessions. Roulette is killing me because I don't follow my own rule of following streaks. If someone were disciplined, he/she could make a fortune. Red/Black/Odd/Even/High/Low all seem to come in streaks of five or six if you wait for them and jump on same. Sic Bo like this as well but not as clear cut as roulette seems to be.

A lot of smokers but the air seems clean enough. don't notice it unless right next to you.

BJ is 2/1, is that correct or do you mean even money?

Quote: Boz

BJ is 2/1, is that correct or do you mean even money?

i meant two to one but will check again. It is easy money here playing roulette and sicbo.

It's 3 to 2.Maybe you are confusing it with insurance. My friend was there last week.They have Texas holdem bonus and Ultimate Texas holdem.

Quote: Hunterhill

It's 3 to 2.Maybe you are confusing it with insurance. My friend was there last week.They have Texas holdem bonus and Ultimate Texas holdem.

Maybe I am just confusing it. Not intentional, I don't play BJ at all so just passing by and noticed. I only noticed really because of all the talk on here about 6/5 in Vegas and AC in the U.S.A..

Regarding Texas Holdem, the tournaments have been canceled due to lack of players. When I was here last year there were events on the weekends. No mas.

Regarding rating play, they seem liberal on it and as I say, a buffet comp is almost automatic. You get a players card and it shows your photo as your play is being rated. I only know this because I asked and the pit boss showed me how it worked in that aspect, swiping my card at an empty table. They are very strict about people entering the pit. Security will pounce on you. I was only trying to make sure my tip made it to the tip box as another player had offered to give it to the dealer off duty "give it to me, I'll give it to her" as well as mentioned, the hookers are stalking around $100.usd players such as myself. The unfortunate thing is most if not all? of the hookers were not lookers but what seemed like unemployed middle aged women just hoping for a hand out. The hooker scene in Phnom Penh has certainly take a turn for the worse(or better if you are disgusted by it) over the last few years. I think all the Vietnam women just stay in Vietnam these days. The Cambodian hooker is often in a very unfortunate situation of poverty and it shows head down to toe.

Quote: Hunterhill

It's 3 to 2.Maybe you are confusing it with insurance. My friend was there last week.They have Texas holdem bonus and Ultimate Texas holdem.

Yes, I was reading the insurance, which is 2 to 1, and a BlackJack pays 1.5 to 1..

All wagering is in U.S.Dollars here. They are well stocked on the new $100.usd bills, I had not seen them before. They look much more secure than the prior bills especially when laid side by side. One wonders why we never went to a colored bill before.

Was back at it tonight, just back to my hotel it being apx. 10pm..

Went on a run in roulette again. First, there were 9, count them....NINE odd numbers in a row when I approached the table so I began betting even at $100.usd a pop. Got destroyed or shall we just say another two odd before the even finally came. After that, choppy so studied the red/black results and started my system, chicken shit as it is...

Follow the ball.....if red comes up, bet red one unit, red again two units, red again three units (these are $100.usd units mind you, not chicken feed!). Same with black, follow the bouncing ball. I bought in(you have to buy in at the cage BTW, no cash transactions at the table) for $1000.usd and was down apx. $500.usd. Then black came, and came and came....seven black numbers in a row. I "insure" with a $200.usd wager placing $5.usd on the single zero, and $10.usd when I'm pressed up to $300.usd.. Call me stupid, call me an idiot, and I accept I should go up more, but $300.usd is enough to get my attention, being a poorly funded soul. So, bottom line, on that run up on black numbers I cashed out at a cool $2200.usd, winning of course $1200.usd. Not real money to most of you I know but it makes for a find end of the day for me.

I wanted to tip the dealers $25.usd. Nobody seems to tip dealers over here. It's a bit odd. Finally, after two ladies aka leaches offered to give the money directly to the dealer, I found a way to drop it in the box myself, breaking again the "do not enter" the pit rule. But I'm alive and well, back as I say with my money and a nice safe in the room.

From there went to the comp desk and got a nice buffet comp for lunch tomorrow.

Questions:

Is, in single zero roulette, this wager on the zero when you are pressed up to $200-$300.usd a stupid bet or as I feel, just a little comfort?

In Sic Bo, a Chinese game with three dice shaken, if the dice are cocked, the dealer hits the table causing the cocked die to roll over and the result change, should you make a real issue of it? When I did, mostly because the female dealer couldn't get the die to settle and a male pit boss came over and slammed the table, they were polite but refused to let surveillance look at it saying up to the shift manager and he said "our rule is hit the table". Stacked die voids the game, but I'm referring to a basically balanced cocked die which was not allowed to settle as would be the case in a craps ruling "like melting ice"under it. I wasn't angry, just seeking attention I guess because they listened but did nothing. I asked for gaming control and was directed to the middle of the river where I suspect chum of the worse kind exist.

Onward we go. It's a tough living but someone's got to do it.

Nok are you saying that you're a professional Ap.If that is your system to bet streaks in roulette , that is not a winning system.

Quote: Hunterhill

Nok are you saying that you're a professional Ap.If that is your system to bet streaks in roulette , that is not a winning system.

No, no, no.... he bets AGAINST the streaks...

Quote: Hunterhill

Nok are youpaying that you're a professional Ap.If that is your system to bet streaks in roulette , that is not a winning system.

I am not amything but a recovering gambling addict. I am following the streaks after i sit down. When i approach the table is the only time i go against them.

Had a final flurry in Nagaworld Sunday, yesterday. The roulette wheel was red hot, then black hot, then low numbers hot. Hot means like six or eight in a row. I wasn't a chicken shit this time and attracted the shift manager.

To make a long story short, I got the scoop on how these outfits make so much money. While Cambodia is a big time venue, as you all know, Macau is the big money.

They work junkets (in NagaWorld) on what is labeled "joint ventures". There are five private games for these joint ventures. The table limits can be adjusted but start at $300,000.usd. Max with a $10,000.usd min. All baccarat, all upstairs.

I'm sure Macau sets it up like this as well.

I only met the shift manager because there was a mistake made at the table and I was pressed up to $500.usd per spin.

And the think I thought I was a decent player with over four hours of play averaging apx. $200.usd a spin. I wasn't shit to them in the big picture.

They must have really changed at Nagaworld, when I was there it was such a small, rinkydink casino I doubt they even had any $3,000 US tables.

Quote: Lucky33

They must have really changed at Nagaworld, when I was there it was such a small, rinkydink casino I doubt they even had any $3,000 US tables.

I think you refer to the days when it was a docked barge with a casino onboard. If you will look back in this discussion you will get the link to the financial statement and learn as well it is a listed stock in Hong Kong. This one property made over 300million dollars last year. This "joint venture" information was told to me without any confidence or requests to keep it quiet. However, I have read that such activities have gotten the attention of gaming authorities in the U.S.A. and companies such as Sands Las Vegas and Wynn and MGM(whatever the parent company is) have had to curb back on the "junket" aspects of their properties in Macau. The reason should be obvious, but for those in the balcony looking in, it involves laundering money and worse, extortion and loan sharking etc.. The types involved in the "junket" are what you might expect back in the times of, well...you get the idea.

Maybe they have changed but I still think that a gambler would be much better off in Macau. Back when I visited Nagaworld they had one craps table. I went up to bet, tossed 10 $100 US on the table and noticed that the shooter was about to throw the dice. Back in those days I was a regular visitor at the Vegas and Louisiana casinos and I was used to the honest ways that they did business. Anyway to make a long story short, I tossed the 1,000 US on the table, noticed that the shooter was about to toss the dice and said to the stickman, "$50 come bet" so I would have something on the roll. He waited until after the shooter tossed the dice, which won, and said "Sorry sir but you called it too late". I picked my money off the table and never went back. Macau or Vegas, even Louisiana casinos you wouldn't have to worry about that, I think that I will stick with them and forget the chickenshit practices of the Cambodia casinos.

When I have been there they did not accept U.S. currency at the tables. You had to go to the cage and convert it. When was this?

Quote: Hunterhill

When I have been there they did not accept U.S. currency at the tables. You had to go to the cage and convert it. When was this?

It is still like this. No cash accepted at the tables. They play in U.S.Dollars only. There is an exchange booth affiliated with a local Cambodian Bank as well for Western Union and credit card advances.

Quote: Lucky33

Macau or Vegas, even Louisiana casinos you wouldn't have to worry about that, I think that I will stick with them and forget the chickenshit practices of the Cambodia casinos.

I'm not sure call bets are accepted in the U.S.A. these days. Too many disputes and of course, accents and other languages spoken. I've never seen craps in Cambodia.

Quote: NokTang

I'm not sure call bets are accepted in the U.S.A. these days. Too many disputes and of course, accents and other languages spoken. I've never seen craps in Cambodia.

In those days they had a lone craps table and it was faIrly busy although the casino itself was a small, chickenshit operation. If they don't have craps now there would be no reason for me to go there since craps is my favorite game. I play a little blackjack when I get tired of standing and need a break but the rest of the time I'm on the craps table. I guess for gambling in Asia Macau is still the best bet.

Quote: Lucky33

when I get tired of standing and need a break but the rest of the time I'm on the craps table. .

I've brought up the issue of stools at craps tables and gotten very positive replies. Some casino's in Las Vegas even have them under the table for patrons. Others will get you one. You don't have to be disabled or lie about it(which I'd never do myself) either. It's part of customer service. I don't know about Macau but one old photo shows a craps table with full chairs surrounding it.

As I reflect on my week long visit to Phnom Penh and many to Nagaworld, I regret once again not jumping on the streaks I outlined...red/black/odd/even/high/low.......hindsight is so beautiful in the world of a gambler but I remain convinced those roulette wheels there at Nanaworld had a lot of streaks. You could get rich quick if you had the nerve to lay it on the line(place it in the box in this case).

Back in Nagaworld this past week, April 1015.

Once again stayed off property.

It's still very busy, going strong, one assumes making a lot of money.

One interesting thing, they are building a "30 story" hotel addition next door, but having problems with the foundation. The manager(one of many) told me the land was "reclaimed" which I think means wetlands reclaimed and built on and the first attempt at the pilings was a failure so had do it again. Real money in these things.

I ate more at the $25.usd buffet this year(on a comp), and it is certainly better than the casion level buffet. However, the beef wasn't good. I keep being told they have Austrailian and American beef some place, I guess a menu item in one of the upscale restaurants.

Everyone is friendly, leeches still around, had six, count em, six middle aged women(I'm male).....at my roulettle table while I was winning. The day before, a young man was seated, not playing, and telling me what to bet. I asked them to remove him, and he apoligized profusely for the intrusion. They all(the women) asked for a "tip for me" when I colored up. Strange this is allowed, but it's Cambodia. I did tip the dealers $25.usd and the tip box was empty.

The sportsbook is up and running. I didn't see any horse racing or dog racing, but all forms of football and soccer and MLB etc.. Baseball was easy pickings for me. I just looked on ESPN for home teams with high paid pitchers playing teams with pitchers only earning $500,000.usd. It seemed like it worked, I was three for three on my baseball wagers. I just figured as the season just opened, everyone fresh, home teams want to win for the fans. Go for it, and it paid off.

I was encouraged to bet on Manchester United twice. The first time, I got shut out as late to the window(game vs Manchester City). So the following week, Man U is 3.5 dog at Chelsa so I bet them big, both the win and "win or draw". Got creamed. That's it for soccer wagering for me.

There are now two Texas Hold-Em tables at the Sportsbook. They seem to stay full at night. Some real action, most players had at least $1000.usd in front of them and I saw several "all in" of over $1000.usd..

Black Jack is still only continous shuffle. Baccarat remains the big game and big money. I was told there are nine suites with three tables in each, staffed 24 hours while the suite is occupied. They look for and get an $8000.usd per wager average at those suites, or at least that's what type of player stays in them. Food from around the world arranged, everything "up to the player".

NokTang,

Thanks for your update! I got Naga shares (in HK), so like reading your stories.

Quote: acw

NokTang,

Thanks for your update! I got Naga shares (in HK), so like reading your stories.

Cheers mate. On a business note.....

Labor is very cheap, as most know...

There are a fair share but not a lot of westerners running around, nice suits, seem to a man(not met a female western employee) to be in tune with gambling and very willing and able to talk with a western customer. If anything, they say too much?

The often heard rumor is that the Prime Minister's family is involved with it all...to what extent and all that I of course don't know....It's goes without saying that a PM with this many years would have to be in on the deals.

I'm going to search out now the new charter aircraft I saw at the airport when departing. I had read something about it. To succeed with the new tower completed(several years out) they will have to not only compete with Macau but Manila.

"We go through several hundred bottles of Jonnie Walker Gold" every week." "It comes to us up the river in containers from the port down south."

Hey Guys, a close friend of mine is visiting cambodia and will be going to nagaworld. Do tourist need to bring physical passport to enter the casino or just ID card is allowed? He don't like to travel around with passport just in case he loses it.

Quote: heavenstorm

Hey Guys, a close friend of mine is visiting cambodia and will be going to nagaworld. Do tourist need to bring physical passport to enter the casino or just ID card is allowed? He don't like to travel around with passport just in case he loses it.

No hassle what so ever entering/exiting the casino. No ID check etc.. As a footnote to that remark, suggest your friend do as I do, make a color copy of the front page of his passport, fold it in half, and have that laminated. In this case he/she now has a somewhat valid ID in his pocket and no fears really. It's a smart thing to do in case of a medical emergency if nothing else. I don't think they have the $600- $10,000.usd "IRS"(or ID) nonsense either, but haven't had the opportunity to verify. They do have a card to track play which of course is easy to get and free. The cheap ground floor buffet is very easy to qualify for(an ongoing now three year promotion) and decent.(not to be confused with a Las Vegas buffet) You can use the passport copy described to sign up for it.

ps: Also carry a couple/five Hotel cards where he's staying.

ps2: Sim cards sold at the airport exit just outside the door, $2.usd. Suggest "Metfone" for both data and actual phone use. Good company so far, as are all I guess. The $2.usd data sim lasted two weeks for me.(no downloads)

Quote: NokTang

No hassle what so ever entering/exiting the casino. No ID check etc.. As a footnote to that remark, suggest your friend do as I do, make a color copy of the front page of his passport, fold it in half, and have that laminated. In this case he/she now has a somewhat valid ID in his pocket and no fears really. It's a smart thing to do in case of a medical emergency if nothing else. I don't think they have the $600- $10,000.usd "IRS"(or ID) nonsense either, but haven't had the opportunity to verify. They do have a card to track play which of course is easy to get and free. The cheap ground floor buffet is very easy to qualify for(an ongoing now three year promotion) and decent.(not to be confused with a Las Vegas buffet) You can use the passport copy described to sign up for it.

ps: Also carry a couple/five Hotel cards where he's staying.

ps2: Sim cards sold at the airport exit just outside the door, $2.usd. Suggest "Metfone" for both data and actual phone use. Good company so far, as are all I guess. The $2.usd data sim lasted two weeks for me.(no downloads)

Hey NokTang, thanks for the valuable information. Really helps alot! The player card for comps, only able to use it for food buffet? I don't think my friend interested in room comp since he is not staying in Nagaworld.

Quote: heavenstorm

Hey NokTang, thanks for the valuable information. Really helps alot! The player card for comps, only able to use it for food buffet? I don't think my friend interested in room comp since he is not staying in Nagaworld.

The points earned are good for a year.

There is some rating problems with table games. Staff just doesn't seem to be able to figure it out as opposed to bad attitude. The machine games however are all computer generated. You insert your card, it keeps track etc..

Yes of course, you can earn room comps but it is not small potatoes in terms of average bet and time. I think it's 80 points for one nights room. As an example, I had exactly 4 hours of roulette at $200.usd average wager(rated, was actually a little more), and earned 76 points. Maybe that should have been 80 points, but it was 76 in the system that fine afternoon.(I was winning is the only reason I was there that long and bet that much)

The other food options are also very expensive and require substantial play. The upstairs buffet is 25 points, the sit down joints even higher. There was one small noodle shop apx. 10 points. The buffet promotion I mention was something like "earn 5 points today and get a free buffet". So, again using common sense and simple math, which doesn't always work, if your friend played one hour even in a slot machine he most likely would qualify for one ground floor buffet. For room comps you are looking at four hours apx $200.usd average.(I assume valid assumption for blackjack and baccarat as well as the other games on offer(names of which I don't even recall))

I have no idea about using points in the gift shop and/or retail stores. I doubt it, but simply don't know.

There is good Chinese food in Phnom Penh anyhow so no need to strive for comps at Nagaworld. Forget Khmer food or any "fast food" options. Stick with Chinese and be happy and "Have a nice day" as the post it note said at Clinton Correctional.

Quote: NokTang

The points earned are good for a year.

There is some rating problems with table games. Staff just doesn't seem to be able to figure it out as opposed to bad attitude. The machine games however are all computer generated. You insert your card, it keeps track etc..

Yes of course, you can earn room comps but it is not small potatoes in terms of average bet and time. I think it's 80 points for one nights room. As an example, I had exactly 4 hours of roulette at $200.usd average wager(rated, was actually a little more), and earned 76 points. Maybe that should have been 80 points, but it was 76 in the system that fine afternoon.(I was winning is the only reason I was there that long and bet that much)

The other food options are also very expensive and require substantial play. The upstairs buffet is 25 points, the sit down joints even higher. There was one small noodle shop apx. 10 points. The buffet promotion I mention was something like "earn 5 points today and get a free buffet". So, again using common sense and simple math, which doesn't always work, if your friend played one hour even in a slot machine he most likely would qualify for one ground floor buffet. For room comps you are looking at four hours apx $200.usd average.(I assume valid assumption for blackjack and baccarat as well as the other games on offer(names of which I don't even recall))

I have no idea about using points in the gift shop and/or retail stores. I doubt it, but simply don't know.

There is good Chinese food in Phnom Penh anyhow so no need to strive for comps at Nagaworld. Forget Khmer food or any "fast food" options. Stick with Chinese and be happy and "Have a nice day" as the post it note said at Clinton Correctional.

Thank you NokTang for the comprehensive info. will let my friend know all the details you mention.

Can this thread be moved to the Asian section of this board?

NokTang,

I have two questions. After looking at the casino's website I have notice something.

1.) Does the casino allow you to record the baccarat shoe or that is not allowed and you must rely on the electronic board.

2.) To move the shoe do you have to play every hand? Or do they allow spread betting banker and player? Even better they offer unlimited free hands?

Thanks

Hello. Just saw your inquiry as I have been off the forum for a few months. Sorry.

As far as recording the baccarat shoe results, of course that is "allowed". Never heard of nor read of not being allowed to do same in baccarat. I've actually seen people doing it in Nagaworld both low and high limits tables.

As for moving the shoe, I've not observed the private areas enough to render an opinion on this. I've also not seen the lower limit tables dealing without a wager but remember, my observations are just that. I didn't ask about this subject as not relevant to me. As for spread betting I would anticipate no hassle. As for free hands being dealt, doubt it at a low limit table. Bottom line, I'm not much help on this inquiry, sorry.

See next post.

I'll be returning to Nagaworld this week, my annual New Years trip. Yes, New Years in Thailand and Cambodia.

This visit I'll be staying at Nagaworld itself. They had a promotion of apx. $90.usd a night including a good breakfast buffet so I figured what the heck, go for it, it's only money.

I hope and plan to win at the sportsbook, betting MLB, using my early season system described earlier. In short, bet home teams which are 160 or less with a high paid pitcher vs a low paid visiting pitcher. It's not fail safe of course, but has been doing well for two years now. It's easier when you don't have a wager to think you can win in the long run, but I'll give it a go for a week or two this season.

I'll take a closer look at the Black Jack and try and answer the kind poster's question about spread betting and the shoe penatration and/or hands being dealt without wagers. I'll have some nicer cloths(aka long pants) this visit so can slip into the high limit rooms upstairs as well.

I'm going to try the various restaurants without worry about cost. I don't drink much wine, certainly not expensive bottles of it, so what the heck again. Who cares if a steak from the U.S.A. is $50.usd? It better be good is all I can say. There is a lot of flair and fluff on the web site but these places aren't as five star as the photos make you believe.

I'll also be going to the pick up bar, "Darlin Darlin", to check out the available ladies of the night. Word has it, from a good source, some are asking and getting $300.usd for an all night romp. What a ridiculous amount of money considering a decade ago same could be had for $20.usd.. Yes, I know she's different if you pay $300.usd. No ladyboy worries in Cambodia as opposed to here in Thailand. So if you like her enough and are stupid enough to pay this sum, that's okay, it's your money and her time. Nothing "better" than a nice looking Vietnamese woman with a good attitude.

Anyone with specific inquires or interests please feel free to post them here. I'll be more than happy to check it out and reply.

Kind regards. Nok the Kook

Checked into a very nice room. I'd call it three star working on four. Extensive cable TV, WIFI, large with good mattress, no lingering smoke scents, good helpful housekeeping, in room coffee(which all hotels should do).

The people are so very friendly.

There is a Baccarat tournament starting tomorrow morning. $5000.usd entry fee. I'll get more details. Not sure if I'll enter, doubt it. But seeing someone win $200,000. in person would be something new for me so I'll attend at the very least.

New keno parlor now has bouncing balls which are some how read by a camera. Maybe standard in the USA but a first for me. Last year they claimed "computer generated". Still no extended game playing which is just stupid as so easy to program into the computer. But asking and getting looks of interest in helping and answering vs complaining(as is the norm in Thailand) is enjoyable.

Sports book still open, one Texas Hold Em game going. No smoking at the table.

To be continued. Just to help and contribute.

Pardon if I missed this, but any craps?

What stakes was the hold em? How much was the rake? Does it look like more than one game ever goes?

Thanks. Have fun!

Quote: Rigondeaux

What stakes was the hold em? How much was the rake? Does it look like more than one game ever goes?

Thanks. Have fun!

I think they said "1-2" but that seems low. Most players this trip, appeared lower stakes players compared to last year. The rake was on a display thing, top rake was $20.usd depending on of course the pot size. I'll take a closer look today. Yes, second game is ready to go with a waiting list and dealer in position. The crowd seems to lack "class" but who am I to judge. I think my comparison is to the World Series of Poker broadcast. They did seem to be having fun. Cheers.

Quote: DeMango

Pardon if I missed this, but any craps?

No craps, Asians simply don't like the game. Even in Macau very limited craps available.(so I'm told, never been) I'm a craps player and I do find the Sic Bo entertaining, there is another name for it as well, involving three die being shaken in a cylinder. No excitement here other than the baccarat tables. A lot of shouting at the baccarat tables.

Quote: NokTang

There is a Baccarat tournament starting tomorrow morning. $5000.usd entry fee. I'll get more details. Not sure if I'll enter, doubt it. But seeing someone win $200,000. in person would be something new for me so I'll attend at the very least.

Turns out, nobody is paying the entry fee. They just told me that for some reason. All the players are VIP very large bettors, invited guests only. Over 600 entered, set up with mini tables.

Quote: Rigondeaux

What stakes was the hold em? How much was the rake? Does it look like more than one game ever goes?

Thanks. Have fun!

Today, mid day, no game in progress. But remember, there is a major baccarat tournament going on.

I copied the rake information. They said 1-2, $200.usd buy in, 2-5, $500.usd buy in, 5-10, $1000.usd buy in.
Up to the players which blinds, first player sort of controls it. Doesn't seem to be an issue. Second game can always be opened with different blinds.
Rake:(pot size)
$30 - 1.usd
60 - 2
100 - 3
150 - 5
250 - 10
400. $20 (and above I assume)

The black jack is indeed still continuous shuffle, 5 decks, no touching the cards.
$10-200
$25-500
I'm sure higher limits can be arranged, maybe even found...
You can now buy in at the tables, all on the main casino floor. Not in the VIP rooms.
Pair bet pays 11 to 1 (5-40)
Black Jack does indeed pay 3 to 2.
Split any pair.
Double down only on 9,10,11.
Dealer stands on soft 17.

Good luck.

Bad small day yesterday.

Got suckered at the roulette automatic game. Thought I changed it from .25 cents to 1.00 and before I knew what happened, my money was gone. Sort of a dark corner. They explained you still have to bet 80 units so when I changed it to $1.usd I was making $80.usd bets without even know it! Dumbass me or was it whatever. I asked for a refund, they politely declined.

Then making matters worse, lost three keno games, two spot marks, the five keno ladies around me offering free drinks and food. So I quit, needless to say the numbers came up the next two games....

To top it off, the over bet on the Liverpool soccer game was showing 5.78 to one. I figured go for it. Went to the window and they said "now only paying 2 to one. So I didn't bet it. Total was 2.5 goals, final score, 4-3.

It's off to breakfast now. At least the Chinese soup is free at the Baccarat tournament venue.

Nok the Kook

Yesterday more of the dumbass in me at work...

Decided to start out low and only bet $25.usd on the even money bets at the roulette.

Found my favorite table empty, and eight, count em..eight blacks had come in a row. Six low numbers as well.

So I figure red is due, and high numbers. $25.usd on each. Six reds fall, first four being low. I didn't press either bet. Chicken shit I am again. I also hit two single number $5.usd bets. Left the table with positive $250usd on a $500.usd buy in. But still, there it was once again, a streak, and I didn't jump on it. I'm feeling sick.

Went into town this morning and got some generic xanex, generic valium, generic viagra, some Pepto Bismo, all the drugs at remarkable prices, no prescription needed.

Vietnamese hookers like ants around here but no real lookers, only left over meth heads from recently closed venues. I've yet to go in the high end disco. The Philippine "ambassadors" (all 16 of them) put Miss Universe to shame. Simply stunning but not interested in dating good looking American men twice their age.

Wanted to be the motorcycle races today and tomorrow but not on the board. Will stick with MLB and Euro soccer.

Nok