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April 3rd, 2012 at 2:56:16 PM permalink
Revel is the northern most property on the Atlantic City boardwalk and it opened yesterday, April 2nd at 7 AM. It is accessible from the boardwalk by stairs at either end of a stone wall that completely blocks the view of the entrance.

There are three levels accessed by escalators. The casino is on the first level above the ground floor where some table games and slots have a great ocean view. All three levels have outside areas where there are chairs and tables and offer spectacular views of the ocean. There is a sky garden on one level as well as pools and hot tubs.

The casino is not huge but it seems so by its layout. The usual Atlantic City games are offered and there is a blackjack party pit. The poker room is one level up from the casino.

Most employees are young, fresh faced and enthusiastic. They greet you constantly and smile so much that it seems the smiles were surgically implanted. Each employee is under extremely strict rules and they must reapply for their job every 4-6 years.

I did not stay there so I can't speak to the amenities, but I can say that this property is something to behold. You will not be disappointed.
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April 3rd, 2012 at 3:17:49 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

All three levels have outside areas where there are chairs and tables and offer spectacular views of the ocean.


Have the hordes of feral cats made their way up to the decks yet or is there some sort of mechanism to keep them out?
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April 3rd, 2012 at 3:22:30 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

Have the hordes of feral cats made their way up to the decks yet or is there some sort of mechanism to keep them out?



Right now they're camped out across from the Taj including three beautiful "tuxedo" cats.
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April 3rd, 2012 at 4:22:55 PM permalink
I have come across this trip report by a member of the Atlantic City One EZ board and would like to share this with you

http://atlanticcityone.yuku.com/topic/6624/Re-Revel-Opening-Day-and-Harrahs-4-2-12?page=-1


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April 3rd, 2012 at 5:30:37 PM permalink
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Each employee is under extremely strict rules and they must reapply for their job every 4-6 years.

O'Shea's also known by a more scatalogical nick name, recently closed and employees who had been promised that the Evil Empire would transfer them to other properties were told: they are fired, you are welcome to apply for other job but must compete with all other jobseekers, including auditions and, if hired, that date of hire will be the only one relevant for any purpose.
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April 3rd, 2012 at 7:18:48 PM permalink
I was there yesterday for a few hours. Expect a complete trip report in a couple days.

In the meantime, my short report is this: Frickin' HUGE!

OK, a somewhat longer report: I was unimpressed with the casino, but what I saw of the rest of the place left me VERY impressed. But that is with the understanding that they are trying to do something different. They are trying to be a resort in a casino town, where all the other places are trying to be a casino in a - ahem - resort town. On that note, I think Revel will succeed.
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April 3rd, 2012 at 7:42:51 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

O'Shea's also known by a more scatalogical nick name, recently closed..

I was just there last weekend?!?!? I was admiring their re-working of the food court. The poker area was doing good business. There was even some people playing with the ping-pong balls. I think O'Shea's demise is a wee bit premature.

Just to keep this on topic, I like the feral cats.

and the Revel will be nice to stay at someday.
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April 3rd, 2012 at 8:11:57 PM permalink
My take on Revel is not so flattering. Did not like the poker room. It is located in a very inconvenient corner. Up two escalators and travel half way around and get to it. Going from the other side is a little quicker. The WORST poker table in the entire world. These tables have no cup holders. The bases of the table are made so if you sit on seat 1-3 or 7-10, your knee will constantly bump into them.

They have a burlesque/ stripper pole area in the gambling area( don't call it gaming ... it is gambling). It is noisy and I didn't much care for it. I want to play and win some $ as an AP. If I wanted to see girls on a stripper pole I would go to a strip club.

Like any new spot it will draw a crowd at first but once the novelty wears off, it will have a hard time surviving in a diluted gambling pool where patrons have to travel further than the local casinos in PA, DE, WV, NY and shortly MD. It will be the top two spots in AC, but will not bring more gamblers to AC, only siphon them away from other casinos. I see this as a final nail in the coffin for ACH or whatever they go by now day.
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April 3rd, 2012 at 8:47:15 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

I was just there last weekend?!?!? I was admiring their re-working of the food court. The poker area was doing good business. There was even some people playing with the ping-pong balls. I think O'Shea's demise is a wee bit premature.


Yeah I was confused by this as well. A dealer at Paris said that construction was behind schedule, so they have just kept it open until it's ready to be torn down. Makes sense, may as well keep pulling in money as long as you can.
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April 3rd, 2012 at 8:51:37 PM permalink
Its supposed to close April 30...
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Its supposed to close April 30...
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April 4th, 2012 at 3:01:26 PM permalink
Here in no particular order is more of what I saw and heard at Revel.

Employees caught smoking will be terminated immediately. This includes on the property, in their cars in the parking garage, on the boardwalk during their shift and the street to either side of the property.

No tattoos, facial hair or piercings.

All employees must reapply for their jobs in either 4 years or 6 years and they are not told which.

Boardwalk bums and working girls are shown the door.

Server uniforms are modest.

There is a party pit with digital blackjack only. This game is on trial and the Gaming Commission has signs on each table telling patrons to notify them of any problems.

There was a heavy police presence on the property including the casino floor. Among them were, AC's finest, including a couple with a SWAT patch. There were also a few NJ State Troopers.

There were a half dozen or so employees at the top of the escalator signing people up for the players club. There were many others roving the casino. They were all using a hand held device and issued the cards on the spot. I did not get one because I didn't want my license scanned.

There was a lone protestor on the boardwalk across from the casino with signs complaining about Revel's hiring practices.

The glass doors throughout the property are very heavy and difficult to open especially the ones to the outside areas. It's even worse when there is a breeze. Some do have automatic openers.

Many people thought that the glass walls overlooking the ocean on all three levels seemed too low. Some were wondering when the first person would go over the side. It's a long way down!
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April 4th, 2012 at 3:23:16 PM permalink
Although I will have my own full report in a few days, he's my confirmation or rebuttal to some of 1BB's comments.

Yeah, the party pit features DigiDeal BlackJack. But I did not see any notice about it being a trial. And it was a $5 minimum, and nobody was playing at about 4:00om. The dealer in question had major league good looks and a great body. I mentioned the $5 minimum to the dealer, including stating that usually, the party pit with the great eye candy is usually a higher minimum. (I did want to specifically ask why there wasn't a tit tax, but I held back.) She kinda shrugged it off with no real answer. I then asked if it was 3:2. Yep. I did NOT play it to confirm this, or any other rules.

I saw no excessive police presence. I DID notice a lot of news people, as could be expected.

Not only were there people generating players cards right at the top of the escalator, more people were walking thru the casino with the scanner in an effort to sign people up.

I think the glass railings are about the right height. Any higher and the place starts to look like a prison rather than a resort.
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April 4th, 2012 at 3:33:11 PM permalink
DJ,

I didn't remember what you looked liked until I just now looked up your picture. Were you playing craps at 2:30pm on Monday in a green short sleeve shirt?
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April 4th, 2012 at 4:28:14 PM permalink
I WAS in the poker room at that time.

I busted out at about 3:00 and told my buddy that I was going for an exploratory walk for 20 minutes. By the time I found my way back, it was a little after 4:00!

I don't remember which shirt I wore that day. It was a polo/golf type shirt, either black, or kind of in between pale green and tan.
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April 4th, 2012 at 6:15:00 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB


There were a half dozen or so employees at the top of the escalator signing people up for the players club. There were many others roving the casino.



All new casinos do this, look at us, we're different.
In 3 months they'll be just as rude as every other
casino in AC.
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April 5th, 2012 at 3:30:37 AM permalink
Casinos do everything in their power to extract every piece of information they can from us. That's why nobody but the police will ever get their hands on my drivers license. I've seen them pushing cards at other casinos but this seemed different. No one had to leave and return with the card.

The casino reps had pockets full of cards and they were issued on the spot. I never payed much attention to players cards although I do have some. The ones handed out at Revel are the first I've seen without the members' name on them.
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April 5th, 2012 at 4:45:17 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

The casino reps had pockets full of cards and they were issued on the spot. I never payed much attention to players cards although I do have some. The ones handed out at Revel are the first I've seen without the members' name on them.



In '08 I took a tour of Hoover Dam with Showtime Tours. It included lunch at the buffet at Sam's Town. We were all offered Boyd cards then, for which we had to fill a small form (name, address, etc). By the middle of lunch we were given cards with numbers but no names on them.

Eventually I changed mine in 2010, but only because the card had changed from, I think, Club Coast to B Connected. The lady at the players club desk at the Fremont was puzzled as to why there was no name on the card, too.
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April 5th, 2012 at 10:04:13 AM permalink
I've only seen one person report VP paytables for Revel....at 8-5 for JoB on a $5 machine (yuck!!!!)

Has anyone else scoured Revel's video poker offerings yet? DDB paytables? Dueces Wild Paytables? Is 8-5 the best Revel offers on JoB?

What about other Video poker offerings, what kind of machines are there (ie Ultimate X, Pick 'em Poker, Video Let it Ride?)

I might be there next week, but man, if the VP tables all stink Borgata is going to remain my AC home. I did get Maroon 5 tickets already, so I'm definitely going to Revel May 18th....
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April 5th, 2012 at 10:10:51 PM permalink
I'm planning my Revel trip. Probably May 5-6, when I'll be in Baltimore for work anyway and it's only a 3 hour drive. I also just got a mailer from Atlantic Club (FKA Atlantic City Hilton and ACH). Am I right in assuming that there are new chips associated with the new name?
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April 5th, 2012 at 10:22:38 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

...Atlantic Club (FKA Atlantic City Hilton and ACH).
Am I right in assuming that there are new chips associated with the new name?


yes they go all the way down to $0.25...
also, they just recarpeted the casino,
it looks nice.
enjoy your visit,
after losing $20 million last year
this could be the end of the line...
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April 6th, 2012 at 10:43:56 AM permalink
I took a walk from the SHOWBOAT over to the REVEL yesterday to see what all the fuss was about. In short, it's just another casino. I was not impressed.

I played an 8/5 JOB machine and left a winner.

They had 10 crap tables. Some were $5 min.

Before I left I went to the men's room. There was one urinal with four guys waiting. What I thought was the janitor's closet was the toilet. There were no markings on the door to indicate it was the toilet.

My wife went to the ladies room and there were two toilets. She said that the ladies were complaining because they had to wait in line and one woman said, 'I bet there are are lot more toilet in the men's room'. That's when I told my wife the situation in the men's room.

Before I left, I wanted to get a drink of water. I asked a hostess where was the nearest water fountain. She was stumped. She said that she couldn't think of any. She stopped one of the waitresses to get me a bottle of water. She also asked the waitress if she knew where a water fountain was. The waitress didn't know either.

There were about eight different bars and lounges opened. Some were open but no patrons.

I think the REVEL is targeting the wrong market. From my observations, it's catering to the young, hip, cool (do they even use that term anymore) crowd. I don't see people moving their play from their current casinos over to the REVEL.

The REVEL is just not providing any incentives for me to move my play.
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April 6th, 2012 at 10:58:36 AM permalink
I just remembered another thing that happened at the REVEL.

My wife and I wanted to see what was on the upper levels and decided to take the elevator. We got in the elevator and the buttons were marked(IIRC)...MZ...SR...CF...VR....??? I couldn't figure out which button to press. I pressed 'SR' and the doors on the other side of the elevator cab opened to the STORAGE ROOM. I then pressed MZ and up we went to the MEZZANINE.

There's nothing up there but one more bar and a walkway that over looks the casino floor. There's also a men's room with one urinal and two toilets (LOL). You would think that a men's room right next to the bar would be larger. My wife said there were three toilets in the ladies room.

We went back to the elevator and there was only one button that we hadn't tried. I pushed the VR(?) button and up we went. The doors behind us opened up and there were a few chairs and a desk. I had no idea what that was. I hit the CF button and we went down to the CASINO FLOOR.

That's when I decided to get a drink of water (see previous post) and leave.
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April 6th, 2012 at 11:03:16 AM permalink
F.G. -

While I agree with your observations, I came away with the exact opposite conclusion.

They are trying to down-play the casino, and really be the only resort in town. I therefore think it will be a success.
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April 6th, 2012 at 11:06:55 AM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

Before I left, I wanted to get a drink of water. I asked a hostess where was the nearest water fountain. She was stumped. She said that she couldn't think of any. She stopped one of the waitresses to get me a bottle of water. She also asked the waitress if she knew where a water fountain was. The waitress didn't know either.



I think water fountains in casinos are quite rare, except perhaps in the midwestern locals that provide full soda fountains.
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April 6th, 2012 at 11:07:28 AM permalink
Can't wait to read your report, DJ!

If Revel is trying to get away as a resort, then perhaps it should spend a great deal of money cleaning up the image in front of its property if it hasn't already.

You would expect these guys to perhaps differentiate its casino from the rest as well in order to pull people away from the other properties, and the fact that this is not a chain casino.
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April 6th, 2012 at 11:26:04 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Can't wait to read your report, DJ!

You might have to.

I'm going to be spending a lot of my free time preparing for the ShuffleMaster event.

My Revel report is going to be on the back burner for a while.

Hopefully, I'll get it done before I fly out to Vegas on 4/30.
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April 6th, 2012 at 11:28:48 AM permalink
" I'm going to be spending a lot of my free time preparing for the ShuffleMaster event."
Gee, you have over a year to get ready.
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April 6th, 2012 at 11:46:42 AM permalink
Damn Buzz,

A guy your age BETTER hope he's talking about 2012!



(sorry. had to do it....)
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April 6th, 2012 at 12:34:32 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

F.G. -

While I agree with your observations, I came away with the exact opposite conclusion.

They are trying to down-play the casino, and really be the only resort in town. I therefore think it will be a success.



I agree that the resort angle will make Revel a success. The casino is secondary and offers nothing new other than the party pit. There is also a poker room with 37 tables. As of now, the high limit room consists of 4 blackjack tables with a $1500 max bet, 2 bac tables and 1 roulette table. That's it. It's located in a bar called Ultra Lounge. I'm guessing that will change.

I didn't have a lot of trouble finding things including the restrooms and they do have large ones. A property map would be a big help but they don't have one.

Once guests check in and see that Revel has everything they want or need they won't be schlepping down the boardwalk to slum it at Resorts or Taj. They might even forget they're in Atlantic City.
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April 6th, 2012 at 12:42:24 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Damn Buzz,

A guy your age BETTER hope he's talking about 2012!



(sorry. had to do it....)




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April 6th, 2012 at 1:16:49 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Don't Lie. I know Dan Lubin put you up to it. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR



It looks like somebody has a man crush on Dan. lol
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April 6th, 2012 at 1:27:56 PM permalink
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Before I left I went to the men's room. There was one urinal with four guys waiting.



You must have been in an off the beaten path
bathroom. No casino would ever have one urinal
in a main bathroom, that would make no sense.
The only bathrooms like that I've seen in casinos
are in out of the way places, like next to valet
parking.
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April 6th, 2012 at 1:41:01 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

It looks like somebody has a man crush on Dan. lol



Sounds to me like the Bishop rejected your application for the priesthood.
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April 6th, 2012 at 1:51:41 PM permalink
How many roulette wheels did the Revel have? And does anyone know the brand?
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April 6th, 2012 at 2:44:47 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You must have been in an off the beaten path
bathroom. No casino would ever have one urinal
in a main bathroom, that would make no sense.
The only bathrooms like that I've seen in casinos
are in out of the way places, like next to valet
parking.



I agree with what you said "that would not make no sense".

This was not off the beaten path. This was right on the casino floor. The entrance was between a few slot machines. In fact it was the only bathroom I saw in the casino.

As I said in my other post, the ladies were complaining about the lines to use the two toilets in the ladies room. My wife heard someone say that there were more toilets upstairs. If you're on the casino floor and have to go to the bathroom, you either wait in line or go upstairs by elevator. Those bathrooms upstairs are located next to one of the lounges. Once the REVEL is fully operational, those bathrooms will have even longer lines from the bar patrons.

I did find out later that there were larger bathrooms near the food court restaurants.
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April 6th, 2012 at 2:58:50 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

F.G. -

While I agree with your observations, I came away with the exact opposite conclusion.

They are trying to down-play the casino, and really be the only resort in town. I therefore think it will be a success.



Well, they certainly are doing a good job of down-playing the casino.

They better do a good job of promoting the REVEL as a resort destination, otherwise that second tower will never get built. But then again, that's what I said about that first tower after construction was stopped because of financial problems.
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April 6th, 2012 at 3:12:32 PM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

They better do a good job of promoting the REVEL as a resort destination, ....

Funny you should say that.

I've seen the Revel TV ad 3 times in the last week.

All three times, I had no idea who the advertiser was, or what the product category was, until the last second when the name flashed by.

And that was when I finally realized that I had seen the damn ad before!
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April 8th, 2012 at 10:58:11 AM permalink
I found this review on the TRIP ADVISOR forum about the the REVEL.

" I had to find a bathroom and ended up going up to another level since I could not find one"
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April 8th, 2012 at 12:30:45 PM permalink
I went to Revel this week and took them for a quick 150% profit on the craps table. I like new casinos... the evil spirits havent made their way there yet. lol

So, my take on the future of Revel. I am sticking to my previous conviciton that they will run into finacial difficulties. Perhaps they will retain Donald Trump for some help in learning how to screw investors, screw contractors, default on loans while convincing corrupt bank officials to lend more... then repeat 3 times. All the while doing relentless pr to try and convince the public that he smells like a rose.

The place is dark and not comfortable. The red carpet made me dizzy. They expect people to pay for their own rooms. They think that they are going to convince everyone to come to dinner and bars at their place to generate income. Not to mention they are giving out good liquor in their drinks and healthy sizes. Costly. Summertime will do them well this year. Their party is over in Oct. Yes, they understand that gaming is not the moneymaker in AC anyomore but people arent driving down there for dinners either moving foward. They better keep overhead very low, which I dont see happening.
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April 9th, 2012 at 9:35:15 AM permalink
I see Revel doing well because Borgata is. Borgara has managed to turn quite a healthy profit. Why is that? It's because the experience is different from the rest of AC. I see Revel doing the same thing. If anything, Revel will take market share away from Borgata and the other casinos and *may* pull some people from Philadelphia.

Revel has healthy convention and meeting space which is double the size of Borgata's. Its gaming floor is small.

The biggest thing that Revel has going for it is the same as Borgata. It's new.
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April 9th, 2012 at 10:25:16 AM permalink
Just got back from Harrah's AC Sunday morning. The wife and I had an incredible run on Friday - no losses at any table game (Pai Gow Poker, THB - Harrah's, Borgata and Revel). I even split first place in the afternoon poker tourney in Harrah's for $500 each. I thought it would be a great time to clock some roulette wheels or try to use some of our fresh CC dumps, but she wanted to eat so..... (Loved the little mexican food truck in the dining area at Revel - Great!)

Saturday turned it around a little...gave most back, but by then we'd used a lot of the winnings to eat well, bought her some shoes at the outlets, took our life in our hands on the Jitneys a few times, etc. etc. All in all a great trip....

We went to the Revel both Friday and Saturday and loved it! Doing remodels for a living for a decade makes me enjoy the decor and design elements as much as the gambling on a first walk through anywhere. (Except maybe the Dump Taj Mahal a few years back but hey - I didn't know any better - and I always have my tetanus shot up to date).

I got tricked into following the signs to the poker room - which is a lonnnnng way around the upper floor. I found a set of escalators just a few steps away that would've cut the trip in half....IDK???? The hallway was way too dark for me - I'm definitely not counting any money along through there - day or night!

The outside areas were fantastic and when the foliage comes in it'll have a real resort feel. The pool areas were guest only so we couldn't go in there. We totally thought the smoke free was great and I saw a lot of geezers still hitting the buttons so maybe it'll hold up over the winters. Though I'm in agreement with a lot of others that they'll pretty much scavenge players from other casinos rather than cause more people to come down to AC. We asked a lot of dealers and drivers what they thought and they felt pretty much the same way.

We found all the staff at Revel to be very happy and pleasant - even had one guy escort us to the food area since we couldn't find it. We did find the bathroom easily - not sure why others didn't...big blue hallway with plenty of facilities inside. I did see one thing that I thought was totally the wrong move for them... Pai Gow Poker was $15 a hand. We were playing our two spots for $25 - $50 each and another guy was there playing at table min's. New guys enters and buys in for $2,000 and plays two spots for $100 each. About three hands in he miss sets one and they foul the hand and take his money without a warning! Soft Opening week - They don't have ropes to keep people from walking through the pit area - no tile with dealer/banker on it so I can't bank and they sour this guy over a miss set hand when he playing $100 2x. Now I've told a 1,000 people about it....what a mistake!
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April 9th, 2012 at 10:46:57 AM permalink
Quote: Woldus

...New guys enters and buys in for $2,000 and plays two spots for $100 each. About three hands in he miss sets one and they foul the hand and take his money without a warning!

Wait a sec.

Aren't you saying that HE set his hand wrong resulting in a foul?

Are you complaining that they took his money without saying anything, or that they didn't re-set it to the House Way and play the hand?

Forgive me, but if you're playing at a $100 level, you should know the rules, and know that a fouled hand is an automatic loser.

I've seen the same situation where the person involved is a novice, playing at table minimums. What has happened is the dealer explains the situation, then re-sets the hand to show whether the player would have won/lost/pushed, but the fouled hand still lost.

I see nothing wrong with the Revel's action as you described it, except, perhaps, they could have been more appologetic about it - assuming they said nothing.
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April 9th, 2012 at 11:15:29 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

I see Revel doing well because Borgata is. Borgara has managed to turn quite a healthy profit. Why is that? It's because the experience is different from the rest of AC.



Non-confrontational question: how is the Borgata experience much different from Harah's?

I do agree with you overall though. Unlike Vegas, the AC market seems only big enough to support a single high-end casino with solid play. Those guys like to flock together, so I expect it to go Taj->Borgata->Revel->whatever the next thing is should it ever be built.
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April 9th, 2012 at 11:18:47 AM permalink
I was at the Revel on Saturday and I was impressed by it's structure. It is a huge building and they will have some great restaurants and night clubs. Now on Saturday they had a bunch of employees with handheld card makers to try and distribute the Revel card to as many people as possible. It appeared most of the people were there just to see the place. Of course, per my usual gambling luck, I actually sat down and lost 8 straight BJ hands right from the begginning and left down $100. I put $20 into a JoB VP machine on the way out and lost that in minutes also. They had a decent amount of players, but they actually have less than 100 tables. I am skeptical if it can succede by emphasizing the restaurant and club crowd. I mean they spent over 2 billion dollars to build and open this thing so thats a lot of dinners and drinks to make a profit.
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April 9th, 2012 at 11:22:53 AM permalink
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I thought it would be a great time to clock some roulette wheels or try to use some of our fresh CC dumps, but she wanted to eat so.....



Hehe. Good one.
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April 9th, 2012 at 11:24:29 AM permalink
AC could become a big success if they:

1. Built a real airport enabling international flights to land.
2. Fire everyone from AC that works there, and rehired people from the Midwest or west coast, where people understand customer service and enjoy working.
3. Keep the place open all night, including restaurants. It's hard to find a place to eat after 10pm.
4. Ban all forms of hip hop and rap music to keep the ghetto out of the hotels, casinos, and off of the boardwalk, so that it's safe to go out on the boardwalk at night. Right now, it's not safe to walk out there after dark. The "hoodies" will rob you.
5. Keep security on the boardwalk at night.

If they did all of the above, then they could have a Las Vegas on the ocean. It would be a huge hit!
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April 9th, 2012 at 11:50:12 AM permalink
Quote: hook3670

I was at the Revel on Saturday and I was impressed by it's structure. It is a huge building and they will have some great restaurants and night clubs. Now on Saturday they had a bunch of employees with handheld card makers to try and distribute the Revel card to as many people as possible. It appeared most of the people were there just to see the place. Of course, per my usual gambling luck, I actually sat down and lost 8 straight BJ hands right from the begginning and left down $100. I put $20 into a JoB VP machine on the way out and lost that in minutes also. They had a decent amount of players, but they actually have less than 100 tables. I am skeptical if it can succede by emphasizing the restaurant and club crowd. I mean they spent over 2 billion dollars to build and open this thing so thats a lot of dinners and drinks to make a profit.



Did you play the 8 deck blackjack or the 6 deck? The 8 deck was H17 and the 6 deck was S17 when I was there opening day. There were $5 minimums at the 6 deck games only which was very strange.

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April 9th, 2012 at 1:36:47 PM permalink
AC could become a big success if they

It's too late. The state had a nice run while anything in excess of a block away from the boardwalk was allowed to wither and die.
All those bus people over the years got off the bus, into the casino, back into the bus. I went to AC as kid with my parents, also with my wife so long ago the horse still dove off the steel pier into the ocean.
After the casinos open we vacationed with kids at Wildwood. NJ. What could have been if only a fair share has been funneled into AC itself ? SIGH
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April 9th, 2012 at 1:38:14 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Wait a sec.

Aren't you saying that HE set his hand wrong resulting in a foul?

Are you complaining that they took his money without saying anything, or that they didn't re-set it to the House Way and play the hand?

Forgive me, but if you're playing at a $100 level, you should know the rules, and know that a fouled hand is an automatic loser.

I've seen the same situation where the person involved is a novice, playing at table minimums. What has happened is the dealer explains the situation, then re-sets the hand to show whether the player would have won/lost/pushed, but the fouled hand still lost.

I see nothing wrong with the Revel's action as you described it, except, perhaps, they could have been more appologetic about it - assuming they said nothing.



I'm saying both. But more how they just swept it off the table after mumbling "miss-set". Ok, he should know the rules, but the pit was almost empty, they had people walking right between the tables becuase they didn't have any velvet ropes yet. The one dealer let me bank back and forth about three times until her replacement came over and told her it was my turn to bank and all hell broke loose about how I couldn't bank because they didn't have a marker for it. (I offered to place my show on the table that we could shove back and forth, and even though the floor appreciated the humor he still kinda got on the dealer for not knowing. THe whole feeling was like playing in someone's garage.

Yes, they were right to not allow the hand to be set properly and play it out (which would've resulted in a push, BTW). But look at the negative spin on everyone opinion at the table. How big a deal would it have been for the floor to see the push and just say - "Sir, we allow one warning for a miss-set" or whatever? Now I think if we go play there and my wife forgets how she splits and tries to pick up the low hand I'm wondering if they'll foul the hand, and on and on and on.... Just bad PR is what I'm saying.

FWIW the evil empire reset my hand with a one time warning....
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