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March 18th, 2021 at 8:45:20 PM permalink
one thing i have never seen is a gaming compact between an indian tribe and a state for class 3 gaming... can somone point me toward a pdf of one
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March 18th, 2021 at 8:55:51 PM permalink
I never noticed Bingo designs on slots in Minnesota, but they had Crapless Craps machines because the passline paid less than 95% payback.
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March 18th, 2021 at 10:03:44 PM permalink
i think i found one but it wasnt as exciting as i thought it would be
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March 19th, 2021 at 9:08:15 AM permalink
The NIGC websites has most of them. just Google National Indian Gaming Commission and look under the General Counsel tab.
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March 19th, 2021 at 9:10:35 AM permalink
Also believe most compacts will be for class 3 because that the only class the state would have any sort of control over.
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March 19th, 2021 at 9:31:13 AM permalink
https://www.flsenate.gov/PublishedContent/Committees/2014-2016/RI/Links/Gaming_Compact_between_The_Seminole_Tribe_of_Florida_and_the_State_of_Florida.pdf

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In recognition of the fact that the Tribe has been and is currently conducting Class III gaming with substantial exclusivity prior to the Effective Date of this Compact, the Tribe agrees to continue to pay the State Twelve Million Five Hundred Thousand Dollars ($12,500,000) on or before the fifteenth (15th) day of the month following each month that the Tribe conducts Class III gaming prior to the Effective Date of this Compact
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March 19th, 2021 at 10:41:55 AM permalink
Links to all current tribal gaming compacts in California

Some are interesting. For example, the one for Graton includes:
"Nothing herein shall be construed to authorize the operation of the game known as roulette, whether or not played with or on a mechanical, electro-mechanical, electrical, or video device, or cards, or any combination of such devices, or the operation of any game that incorporates the physical use of die or dice."
I think this is a Jerry Brown thing - the compacts written when Schwarzenegger was governor, and the ones after Newsom took over, don't seem to have this.
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March 19th, 2021 at 11:29:20 AM permalink
Quote: teliot

https://www.flsenate.gov/PublishedContent/Committees/2014-2016/RI/Links/Gaming_Compact_between_The_Seminole_Tribe_of_Florida_and_the_State_of_Florida.pdf

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In recognition of the fact that the Tribe has been and is currently conducting Class III gaming with substantial exclusivity prior to the Effective Date of this Compact, the Tribe agrees to continue to pay the State Twelve Million Five Hundred Thousand Dollars ($12,500,000) on or before the fifteenth (15th) day of the month following each month that the Tribe conducts Class III gaming prior to the Effective Date of this Compact



thank you sir - although this is the one i found i should have googled it before asking - but i did have to look on the IGRA website or the other one to find it
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March 19th, 2021 at 11:29:40 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Links to all current tribal gaming compacts in California

Some are interesting. For example, the one for Graton includes:
"Nothing herein shall be construed to authorize the operation of the game known as roulette, whether or not played with or on a mechanical, electro-mechanical, electrical, or video device, or cards, or any combination of such devices, or the operation of any game that incorporates the physical use of die or dice."
I think this is a Jerry Brown thing - the compacts written when Schwarzenegger was governor, and the ones after Newsom took over, don't seem to have this.



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March 19th, 2021 at 11:35:11 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Links to all current tribal gaming compacts in California

Some are interesting. For example, the one for Graton includes:
"Nothing herein shall be construed to authorize the operation of the game known as roulette, whether or not played with or on a mechanical, electro-mechanical, electrical, or video device, or cards, or any combination of such devices, or the operation of any game that incorporates the physical use of die or dice."
I think this is a Jerry Brown thing - the compacts written when Schwarzenegger was governor, and the ones after Newsom took over, don't seem to have this.

In CA, the tribal casinos cannot offer roulette or craps in the traditional way. It's been like this since the start. Ergo, card roulette and card craps. Google is your friend.

Stephen How famously crushed card craps.

https://discountgambling.net/playcraps/

So did Bob Dancer.

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gambling-with-an-edge/card-craps-at-viejas/
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