billryan
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May 7th, 2018 at 2:02:45 AM permalink
I saw on the news that 90 slots at The Riverside had been fitted with drink meters. A green light means you can order a drink. A yellow light means you are near the point and an orange light tells you you are playing too slow to qualify. If this pilot is successful, the spokesman said there were five properties in Vegas already signed up.
I personally don't see a problem with this unless they eliminate most casual players. I think its a very small percent of people who abuse the free drink system and eliminating them should help everyone else.
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May 7th, 2018 at 2:24:12 AM permalink
I agree. But then again I can see it not working since some of the waitresses will serve them anyways for the tips
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May 7th, 2018 at 4:47:40 AM permalink
Typical MBA thinking. Drive off a couple people abusing the system but PO a hundred regular players. Same kind if thinking that tells a bartender you fill a shot to the line not the rim. Save a penny in booze, lose sales of the next shot.

Really, thinking I'd rather go to Reno.
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May 7th, 2018 at 4:51:56 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

I saw on the news that 90 slots at The Riverside had been fitted with drink meters. A green light means you can order a drink. A yellow light means you are near the point and an orange light tells you you are playing too slow to qualify. If this pilot is successful, the spokesman said there were five properties in Vegas already signed up.
I personally don't see a problem with this unless they eliminate most casual players. I think its a very small percent of people who abuse the free drink system and eliminating them should help everyone else.



How about a color for "no cocktail waitress has been by in a long time". Or perhaps, "ordered a drink and she never returned" light. Or, "how come no one is covering this area" light.
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May 7th, 2018 at 5:09:45 AM permalink
Quote: GlenG

I agree. But then again I can see it not working since some of the waitresses will serve them anyways for the tips



They really can't. The slot prints out a voucher that you give to the waitress. No voucher, no drink. At least that's the way it works at a casino in Az.


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May 7th, 2018 at 5:27:46 AM permalink
One possible way it could help a lot: instead of the servers walking around the floor aimlessly calling out ďdrinks, cocktailsĒ they can go straight to a machine as soon as it turns green and ask directly, more like a bar.
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May 7th, 2018 at 5:28:43 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Typical MBA thinking. Drive off a couple people abusing the system but PO a hundred regular players. Same kind if thinking that tells a bartender you fill a shot to the line not the rim. Save a penny in booze, lose sales of the next shot.
Really, thinking I'd rather go to Reno.

I agree wholeheartedly. Its an annoying solution to a minor problem. Waitresses have pretty much been making decisions based on time and tips, now it will be "you are a slave to the lightbulb". Well, as was said, only an MBA would consider it progress.

Its like the annunciator at a roulette wheel that gives Hot Numbers, Cold Numbers and Recent History of Numbers and Color. It sure brings in a lot of money and is a nuisance when it breaks down. Drink Service indicators will not bring in much money, they will only annoy most users.

Reno? Yeah, where they need players and act like they need them.
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May 7th, 2018 at 5:48:32 AM permalink
Quote: TomG

One possible way it could help a lot: instead of the servers walking around the floor aimlessly calling out ďdrinks, cocktailsĒ they can go straight to a machine as soon as it turns green and ask directly, more like a bar.



To be fair, it is not aimless, it is or at least is supposed to be a pattern.
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May 7th, 2018 at 5:50:52 AM permalink
I still canít figure out why Iíve only seen touch screen ordering in CET casinos on the east coast.

It fixes every problem with cocktail waitresses.
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May 7th, 2018 at 7:32:47 AM permalink
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I still canít figure out why Iíve only seen touch screen ordering in CET casinos on the east coast.

It fixes every problem with cocktail waitresses.



They have them in Tunica, in at least one property . Can't recall where else, but that wasn't the first time I'd seen them.
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May 7th, 2018 at 7:44:15 AM permalink
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They have them in Tunica, in at least one property . Can't recall where else, but that wasn't the first time I'd seen them.



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May 7th, 2018 at 7:50:40 AM permalink
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I still canít figure out why Iíve only seen touch screen ordering in CET casinos on the east coast.
It fixes every problem with cocktail waitresses.

A few moments after the player's card is inserted the first page of the drink ordering screen defaults to the player's favorite beverages and to what might be referred to as 'the shelf data'. That is, Top Shelf or whatever as far as the quality of the player's brands of liquor. So "Gin and Tonic" will be indicated on the screen and the bartender's screen (or computer assisted dispenser) will not only indicate Gin but will indicate which brands may be used for that particular player.

This makes dispatching the Tray Lizards easy and makes their trips largely drink delivery rather than also including order taking. Picking up empties, trash, etc. still has to take place as does drink ordering from neophytes,etc.

I view it as an efficiency device albeit probably motivated by the casino's desire to slap the wrist of those with excessive boarding house reach but still accommodate most patrons who do like to receive drink comps while playing a 12 percent house edge game.
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May 7th, 2018 at 11:32:28 AM permalink
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How about a color for "no cocktail waitress has been by in a long time". Or perhaps, "ordered a drink and she never returned" light. Or, "how come no one is covering this area" light.

Agree on that. The only place I drink is at a table because it's the only place to see a waitress. Otherwise I just go to the bar and play video bj to get a coffee in the morning. I'm not sure if the paper in the glass is a bill or not, I assume it isn't and leave when I want.
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May 7th, 2018 at 12:38:40 PM permalink
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I still canít figure out why Iíve only seen touch screen ordering in CET casinos on the east coast.

It fixes every problem with cocktail waitresses.


I believe it's a union thing.
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May 7th, 2018 at 1:17:26 PM permalink
I know the reason why casinos in Vegas don't have drink fountains (people being dumb by bringing their big gulp cups to fill up), but I love these things in all the non Vegas casinos. These need to be a thing everywhere.

I am willing to stop tipping cocktail waitresses to make this happen
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May 7th, 2018 at 1:41:42 PM permalink
My question would be how long does the light stay green before it reverts back? Say I'm playing, have a green light but no waitress in sight. I keep plugging away and eventually one shows up. Do I have credit a second drink built into the machine? I can see this at bars, with limited seats, but the cost of implementing it casino wide doesn't seem worth it.
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May 7th, 2018 at 1:42:56 PM permalink
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I know the reason why casinos in Vegas don't have drink fountains (people being dumb by bringing their big gulp cups to fill up), but I love these things in all the non Vegas casinos. These need to be a thing everywhere.


There is one on the strip you can in one of the delis restaurants. I'll leave it up to you guys to find.
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May 7th, 2018 at 1:47:26 PM permalink
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My question would be how long does the light stay green before it reverts back? Say I'm playing, have a green light but no waitress in sight. I keep plugging away and eventually one shows up. Do I have credit a second drink built into the machine? I can see this at bars, with limited seats, but the cost of implementing it casino wide doesn't seem worth it.



Maybe they could do it as bounce back play. "You've earned 40 bar drinks." Yay. (I've thought of worse ideas, but that's good for today)
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May 7th, 2018 at 1:55:39 PM permalink
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Maybe they could do it as bounce back play. "You've earned 40 bar drinks." Yay. (I've thought of worse ideas, but that's good for today)



The "points" may well stay on your card and be valid over multiple sessions. Not the worse idea ,at all.
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May 7th, 2018 at 3:20:33 PM permalink
So in Laughlin we will no longer here cocktail waitresses asking "Geritol? Mylanta?"
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May 7th, 2018 at 4:58:12 PM permalink
We should drink more!

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