MD Casinos (Hollywood/MD Live) Announce Tentative Table Games Start Dates
April 18th, 2013 at 12:27:07 AM
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Quote: silversonic2006I believe they run 24/7, just like the rest of the casino.
I can confirm now this looks like the case. I was there at 5:15 AM on a Wednesday and they had two tables still going and it looked like a third had just been closed. $50 min on one table and $100 min on the other! ... and plenty of players. What the action was like, I don't know, since it was too rich for my blood!
UTH, 3 card poker, mini baccarat, BJ, pai gow poker [edit] [and you name it almost] all had tables going and with players playing. $50 and $25 mins for the most part, the 3-card and some other game [I forget the name] had $15 minimums.
PS: I wound up at Harrington where I had some coupons [and games with lower minimums]. The place was slow and I noticed some BJ dealers were new [by the fuss over them]. There seemed to be no newbies with the craps dealers.
PPS: didn't play BJ at M-Live either as $25 exceeds my comfort level on that game too. Lots of tables open, over a dozen; I saw one with no players. All seemed to be dealt from a shoe.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
April 18th, 2013 at 4:01:50 AM
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what were the e-Craps minimums?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
April 18th, 2013 at 9:03:09 AM
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Quote: 100xOddswhat were the e-Craps minimums?
I found a $5 spot at the bar... and lost money like it was the $100 table. More in blog later.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
April 18th, 2013 at 10:50:02 AM
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Harrington's coupons?
April 18th, 2013 at 11:39:14 AM
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Quote: UTHfanHarrington's coupons?
Somehow I have been getting mailed matchplay and free ace coupons.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
April 18th, 2013 at 11:45:09 AM
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Never heard of a Harrington mailer....I'm impressed you drove to Harrington from MD Live...had to be 2.5 hours didn't it? Never been there but Harrington is very small right?
April 18th, 2013 at 12:00:59 PM
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Quote: vendman1Never heard of a Harrington mailer....I'm impressed you drove to Harrington from MD Live...had to be 2.5 hours didn't it? Never been there but Harrington is very small right?
Lots of slots machines at Harrington, otherwise small, yes. A lot of us like the place. As for the drive, an hour and a half from M-live. The excessive move was checking in at Md Live, it was a Harrington or bust day; but curiosity got to me. Those folks at Md Live are not messing around! No way in hell they trained all those dealers! As a lot they looked like they knew what they were doing. No sign that I could see that an early morning crew was going to be lame.
Driving to the H from my house - 2 hrs - is a little to far, really, so 'ain't going' unless I have time to kill and have coupons too! I've gotten to where I like the drive but the last 20 minutes starts to get to me.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
April 18th, 2013 at 12:46:33 PM
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Haven't yet seen real live action at MdLive but I may swing by Harrington's this weekend.
Especially if MdLive is doing $25 UTH mins.
I got a circular from Harrington's once but no "free ace" or whatever.
I find Harringtons to be nice enough, not too smokey, kinda old but lots of smaller limit video tables like the blackjack machine "staffed" by virtual big boobed cocktail waitresses. If you're into that sort of $5 action. And they do do 10x odds at craps.
MdLive has sent me a few $5 and $10 coupons for slot play this week but gosh no live table coupons.
Also, how ghetto is mdlive when they're gouging people using their atms (what I posted elsewhere, the $250 max withdrawal).
Especially if MdLive is doing $25 UTH mins.
I got a circular from Harrington's once but no "free ace" or whatever.
I find Harringtons to be nice enough, not too smokey, kinda old but lots of smaller limit video tables like the blackjack machine "staffed" by virtual big boobed cocktail waitresses. If you're into that sort of $5 action. And they do do 10x odds at craps.
MdLive has sent me a few $5 and $10 coupons for slot play this week but gosh no live table coupons.
Also, how ghetto is mdlive when they're gouging people using their atms (what I posted elsewhere, the $250 max withdrawal).
April 18th, 2013 at 3:37:07 PM
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Was very near MD Live for work purposes and stopped in just to check it out, no playing. Some observations.
Craps and Roulette all very crowded all with $25 min. that I saw. Didn't see the odds on craps literally too crowded to see the felt or signs.
Big Six Wheel a ridiculous $15 min (who the hell plays this anyway).
Blackjack -- Main pit(s) all tables $25 min and $50 min, didn't go in high limit. Most distressingly every table I saw had continuous shuffling machines and the dealers were putting the cards back every two hands, like clockwork. Completely uncountable.
Carnival Games--they had a whole pit of Miss. Stud.(6 or 8 tables), 3 and 4 Card Poker, and Fortune Pai Gow. 3-4 tables each.
They are advertising that they have something like 140 table games....I didn't see anywhere near that many, maybe 75-80...where are the rest?.. Can't be high limit that room isn't that big. Granted I just breezed through quickly but I think I walked the whole floor.
Craps and Roulette all very crowded all with $25 min. that I saw. Didn't see the odds on craps literally too crowded to see the felt or signs.
Big Six Wheel a ridiculous $15 min (who the hell plays this anyway).
Blackjack -- Main pit(s) all tables $25 min and $50 min, didn't go in high limit. Most distressingly every table I saw had continuous shuffling machines and the dealers were putting the cards back every two hands, like clockwork. Completely uncountable.
Carnival Games--they had a whole pit of Miss. Stud.(6 or 8 tables), 3 and 4 Card Poker, and Fortune Pai Gow. 3-4 tables each.
They are advertising that they have something like 140 table games....I didn't see anywhere near that many, maybe 75-80...where are the rest?.. Can't be high limit that room isn't that big. Granted I just breezed through quickly but I think I walked the whole floor.
April 18th, 2013 at 7:50:50 PM
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$15 for the Carnival Wheel?! Hopefully that wasn't packed too.
I could be wrong, but I'd imagine by late summer, once they've been running a few months, the table minimums will come down to earth (ie. $15 at off peak times). That's what happened at Charles Town and at Parx. On my last trip to Charles Town, they even had $15 mini-baccarat running until around 10:30 PM or so.
I'm afraid to even ask what the buy-ins for poker tournaments will be at the outset. Based on the table minimums, I'll put in my guess at $250+.
I could be wrong, but I'd imagine by late summer, once they've been running a few months, the table minimums will come down to earth (ie. $15 at off peak times). That's what happened at Charles Town and at Parx. On my last trip to Charles Town, they even had $15 mini-baccarat running until around 10:30 PM or so.
I'm afraid to even ask what the buy-ins for poker tournaments will be at the outset. Based on the table minimums, I'll put in my guess at $250+.
April 19th, 2013 at 12:09:59 AM
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Quote: vendman1Most distressingly every table I saw had continuous shuffling machines
It's possible there were some I missed, I didn't look for them at first, but when I looked I only saw shoes!
I wasn't watching the action. I guess it's conceivable I am such a knucklehead that if I had I would have had an "oh, wait, that's a CSM" moment complete with a 'duh'
Maybe somebody can confirm.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
April 20th, 2013 at 5:38:55 AM
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Thanks for the CSM info. Now I'm debating about whether or not I want to go. I gotta keep looking for more info. $25 min is on the high side to begin with. If there's a chance it's all CSM or all the min BJ tables are CSM, I'm staying home.
April 20th, 2013 at 9:25:14 AM
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Lol uh well. Interesting. So the table minimums are amazing. I don't think I have ever been to a property that doesn't have red chip table games. Next stop Monaco? So the place has good BJ rules. S17, DAS, RSA. 6 deck shoe with the best pen you could realistically ask for. They cut slightly less than one deck, and I've seen new dealers really F up and just cut like 28 cards. The place is nice. People are friendly and appreciate cooperation and understanding since Vegas style gambling is brand new to MD. It's a relaxed environment though I can't yet speak for what Friday / Saturday nights will be like in the future.
All this with only one awkward incident. I'm a boss though. As long as I have discipline and good health, good luck to those who want to stop me. Questions about BJ specifically, I'll answer via PM.
All this with only one awkward incident. I'm a boss though. As long as I have discipline and good health, good luck to those who want to stop me. Questions about BJ specifically, I'll answer via PM.
April 20th, 2013 at 9:27:54 AM
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You'd be lucky to find a $25 game that isn't CSM. Contrarily, I believe all of their $50+ games are hand dealt from a 6 deck shoe.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:56:00 AM
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I haven't been since the table game opening...are there $25 baccarat tables? That's actually tolerable...I don't do $25 blackjack, and certainly not $25 craps.
Based on the report from last weekend, Hollywood is dropping their minimums below MD Live's and improving at least a couple rules, which is a smart move on their part to keep customers (establish themselves as a more "middle of the road" casino in the region).
I hope for MD Live's sake that they really do a nice job on their poker room, because when Horseshoe opens next summer with theirs, and the WSOP-affiliated events that go along with it, they'll get a ton of players if MD Live's isn't top notch. I know people who are already excited about it.
Based on the report from last weekend, Hollywood is dropping their minimums below MD Live's and improving at least a couple rules, which is a smart move on their part to keep customers (establish themselves as a more "middle of the road" casino in the region).
I hope for MD Live's sake that they really do a nice job on their poker room, because when Horseshoe opens next summer with theirs, and the WSOP-affiliated events that go along with it, they'll get a ton of players if MD Live's isn't top notch. I know people who are already excited about it.
April 22nd, 2013 at 11:41:48 AM
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has anyone gone during the week and notice what the table mins were for BJ and craps? is it still 25 bucks?
April 22nd, 2013 at 7:14:51 PM
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Quote: highhornYOhas anyone gone during the week and notice what the table mins were for BJ and craps? is it still 25 bucks?
Yep they were all $25 min on Friday 4/19 at about 3 pm.
April 22nd, 2013 at 7:29:37 PM
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Quote: vendman1Yep they were all $25 min on Friday 4/19 at about 3 pm.
I passed through recently on a weekday around dinner time (did not play, just wanted to see what the mins were). There were 2 $15 CSM blackjack tables by the Prime Rib, and the rest were $25/50 on the main floor (more $25 than $50). I did see $25 shoe games, but these use the batch shufflers...I didn't see any hand shuffled games. All roulette was $25 mins, all carnival games were $15+ mins, all mini-baccarat was $100 min. There were 4 or 5 craps tables open, a couple $25, one or two $50, and one $100, which was empty. I did see 10X odds.
I did peek at the high limit area from the main floor. It looks like they offer baccarat, blackjack, and one roulette table. I saw a couple $100 blackjack tables, and one $500 blackjack table, that was open but empty. I don't know what the baccarat/roulette minimums were, but given the limits on the main floor, you can imagine roulette must be $50+ and baccarat is at least $100 or $200+.
I'll be interested to see how long the market supports those kinds of minimums.
April 23rd, 2013 at 7:48:45 AM
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Quote: silversonic2006I passed through recently on a weekday around dinner time (did not play, just wanted to see what the mins were). There were 2 $15 CSM blackjack tables by the Prime Rib, and the rest were $25/50 on the main floor (more $25 than $50). I did see $25 shoe games, but these use the batch shufflers...I didn't see any hand shuffled games. All roulette was $25 mins, all carnival games were $15+ mins, all mini-baccarat was $100 min. There were 4 or 5 craps tables open, a couple $25, one or two $50, and one $100, which was empty. I did see 10X odds.
I did peek at the high limit area from the main floor. It looks like they offer baccarat, blackjack, and one roulette table. I saw a couple $100 blackjack tables, and one $500 blackjack table, that was open but empty. I don't know what the baccarat/roulette minimums were, but given the limits on the main floor, you can imagine roulette must be $50+ and baccarat is at least $100 or $200+.
I'll be interested to see how long the market supports those kinds of minimums.
My guess is a while until the limits come down....maybe at least until the PG county casino opens or the downtown Balt. one which would give them some closer competition.
April 27th, 2013 at 5:51:54 AM
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OK brief trip report for MD Live, I was in the area for business Fri. afternoon and stopped in to try some Blackjack. I've been in the casino several times since it opened but this is my first time actually playing other than a few silly electronic roulette bets, and these were just to use up free play.
First the minimums for Craps, and Roulette are still high..$25 and even $50. at 3-4pm on a Friday. The carnival games pit seemed to have $15 min at most games, with the exception of LIR which I believe was $10. As I was mostly interested in BJ conditions I did a more thorough search of the BJ pits. Last time I was there I noticed all CSM's on the main floor, yesterday I saw about a 50/50 mix of CSM's and 8 deck shoe games, on the main floor. I counted 8 different BJ pits. 4 had CSM's 4 had shoe games...but with the auto shufflers that use two complete sets of cards. So when the shoe is over. They pull out a freshly shuffled shoe and start in again right away. The min were all $25 with some $50 tables mixed in. There was one row of $15 tables(4 total) by the Prime Rib restaurant. It was two or three deep with players waiting to play. I'd say the casino while still very busy was not as crazy crowded as I've seen it before. I didn't venture to the HL room at all, you'll see why below.
My play by the way was a disaster. I lost every single hand I played 15-20 total..including 5 doubles or splits, and lost my session BR. I think it's the first time (out of hundreds of sessions)...that I've literally not won a single hand. So not very fun. The dealer I had, was using all his mental energy to keep up with the game. He had to be helped by the pit a couple of times making change and paying off and so forth.
I did get a comped buffet out of it. Which was very good. Wide selection of food, and as they had just started dinner service everything was very fresh.
First the minimums for Craps, and Roulette are still high..$25 and even $50. at 3-4pm on a Friday. The carnival games pit seemed to have $15 min at most games, with the exception of LIR which I believe was $10. As I was mostly interested in BJ conditions I did a more thorough search of the BJ pits. Last time I was there I noticed all CSM's on the main floor, yesterday I saw about a 50/50 mix of CSM's and 8 deck shoe games, on the main floor. I counted 8 different BJ pits. 4 had CSM's 4 had shoe games...but with the auto shufflers that use two complete sets of cards. So when the shoe is over. They pull out a freshly shuffled shoe and start in again right away. The min were all $25 with some $50 tables mixed in. There was one row of $15 tables(4 total) by the Prime Rib restaurant. It was two or three deep with players waiting to play. I'd say the casino while still very busy was not as crazy crowded as I've seen it before. I didn't venture to the HL room at all, you'll see why below.
My play by the way was a disaster. I lost every single hand I played 15-20 total..including 5 doubles or splits, and lost my session BR. I think it's the first time (out of hundreds of sessions)...that I've literally not won a single hand. So not very fun. The dealer I had, was using all his mental energy to keep up with the game. He had to be helped by the pit a couple of times making change and paying off and so forth.
I did get a comped buffet out of it. Which was very good. Wide selection of food, and as they had just started dinner service everything was very fresh.
April 27th, 2013 at 6:27:44 PM
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CORRECTION: No RSA. This may be different for high limit, but I doubt it.
April 28th, 2013 at 7:18:40 AM
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Update from Hollywood: 3x/4x/5x odds for craps is "suspended" pending WV lottery approval.
Also, they installed a new table game: pai gow tiles!
Also, they installed a new table game: pai gow tiles!
April 28th, 2013 at 7:54:51 AM
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Quote: zoomzoom8Update from Hollywood: 3x/4x/5x odds for craps is "suspended" pending WV lottery approval.
Also, they installed a new table game: pai gow tiles!
That doesn't surprise me at all....I know when they first opened table games in WV, there were lots of regulatory snags. Also it's a good excuse to offer crappier odds for a while. Which is definitely something they would do at Charlestown.
April 28th, 2013 at 11:17:52 AM
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Quote: zoomzoom8Update from Hollywood: 3x/4x/5x odds for craps is "suspended" pending WV lottery approval.
Also, they installed a new table game: pai gow tiles!
Have the limits come down at all in the last few weeks? And by that, I am most game in the $10-15 range, rather than $25+?
April 28th, 2013 at 2:51:06 PM
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Long time lurker here, thought I would provide my review of ML from last night.
First of all, the traffic and crowds there are absolutely absurd. Just mindboggling. Granted it was a Saturday and it is also a gigantic outlet mall surrounded by more mini strip malls - but good god. Someone recommended to me parking on the other side of the Mall and walking through and that certainly seemed to be a good suggestion as the casino garage entrance looked worse. But it still took almost twenty minutes of stop and go traffic just to get to the mall parking lot once we exited 295. And just wall to wall people in the casino - literally cannot walk five feet without stopping. Not my thing.
Table limits were even more jacked up than when I visited midweek (went for a ten minute walkthough but didnt play) - craps tables were four $100 tables and two $50 tables. I'm a $25 full odds craps player and I am completely shutout of a place like this. Blackjack was all $50 or higher on the main floor. The circus games may have been lower but I didnt check. You dont even find these limits at the Wynn or Encore.
When we left, it was 20 minutes in line to cash out chips. Only two cashiers working on a Saturday night at 11p even though there were a couple of them standing around. 30 or 40 people in line. Problem is, the lines for the slot ticket cashing machines were even longer so people were waiting in the main line to cash their tickets. Or get cash advances. Or cash a check. Freaking absurd.
Lest I be too negative, I give a solid B+ grade to the Rams Head Center Stage venue. Great acoustics and a real small location - loved it. One minor annoyance is they apparently designed a venue with no bathrooms in mind - so you have to go out into the main casino and then come back. Plenty of high tops to stand around and a lot of reserved tables available although I didnt ask what the cost was, should have though, it would have been nice to sit for a while.
Honestly even for me, when poker opens, I may not be going back. The traffic and parking is just too absurd to deal with.
First of all, the traffic and crowds there are absolutely absurd. Just mindboggling. Granted it was a Saturday and it is also a gigantic outlet mall surrounded by more mini strip malls - but good god. Someone recommended to me parking on the other side of the Mall and walking through and that certainly seemed to be a good suggestion as the casino garage entrance looked worse. But it still took almost twenty minutes of stop and go traffic just to get to the mall parking lot once we exited 295. And just wall to wall people in the casino - literally cannot walk five feet without stopping. Not my thing.
Table limits were even more jacked up than when I visited midweek (went for a ten minute walkthough but didnt play) - craps tables were four $100 tables and two $50 tables. I'm a $25 full odds craps player and I am completely shutout of a place like this. Blackjack was all $50 or higher on the main floor. The circus games may have been lower but I didnt check. You dont even find these limits at the Wynn or Encore.
When we left, it was 20 minutes in line to cash out chips. Only two cashiers working on a Saturday night at 11p even though there were a couple of them standing around. 30 or 40 people in line. Problem is, the lines for the slot ticket cashing machines were even longer so people were waiting in the main line to cash their tickets. Or get cash advances. Or cash a check. Freaking absurd.
Lest I be too negative, I give a solid B+ grade to the Rams Head Center Stage venue. Great acoustics and a real small location - loved it. One minor annoyance is they apparently designed a venue with no bathrooms in mind - so you have to go out into the main casino and then come back. Plenty of high tops to stand around and a lot of reserved tables available although I didnt ask what the cost was, should have though, it would have been nice to sit for a while.
Honestly even for me, when poker opens, I may not be going back. The traffic and parking is just too absurd to deal with.
April 28th, 2013 at 6:26:30 PM
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I'm surprised the WV lottery even was able to approve pai gow tiles. If so, I bet Hollywood has been applying since table games opened, and they just finally got the approval. As someone else said, WV lottery is pretty restrictive.
-B
-B
April 28th, 2013 at 9:17:44 PM
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Quote: toastcmuI'm surprised the WV lottery even was able to approve pai gow tiles. If so, I bet Hollywood has been applying since table games opened, and they just finally got the approval. As someone else said, WV lottery is pretty restrictive.
With more competition, keeping high restrictions is throwing money out the window. :)
April 29th, 2013 at 7:18:10 AM
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Quote: silversonic2006Have the limits come down at all in the last few weeks? And by that, I am most game in the $10-15 range, rather than $25+?
$10 craps all night, $15 bj during the afternoon, $25 PGP and mini-bacc
April 29th, 2013 at 10:39:44 AM
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Quote: dcmidnightHonestly even for me, when poker opens, I may not be going back. The traffic and parking is just too absurd to deal with.
Well, one thing I will say for ML is they do good promos, so I imagine the poker room will have a good bad beat and other goodies.
Plus, i imagine the fishies...that poker room will be a cannery.
If you do go to ML again, do the valet, it's easier. Although I have had a few long waits getting my car back.
April 29th, 2013 at 1:10:57 PM
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Quote: zoomzoom8$10 craps all night, $15 bj during the afternoon, $25 PGP and mini-bacc
Those limits sound about the same as last year pre-ML. I guess the difference is that they don't go up now at night?
-B
April 29th, 2013 at 2:29:29 PM
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Quote: UTHfanWell, one thing I will say for ML is they do good promos, so I imagine the poker room will have a good bad beat and other goodies.
Plus, i imagine the fishies...that poker room will be a cannery.
If you do go to ML again, do the valet, it's easier. Although I have had a few long waits getting my car back.
Yeah I had a bad experience a few years ago in downtown DC with a valet so I dont use them anymore, just a personal thing.
April 29th, 2013 at 3:38:08 PM
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Quote: dcmidnightYeah I had a bad experience a few years ago in downtown DC with a valet so I dont use them anymore, just a personal thing.
well, hell, the whole thing is don't go on the weekends. During the week the garage is just a case of really nice parking close to the elevator [go up one level is all]
Not going back till I get a report that some kind of reasonable minimums are available at M-live Craps tables. It's off to Harrington Wednesday, where I am getting some love [g]
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
April 30th, 2013 at 12:08:21 PM
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Until Baltimore and National Harbor open, their minimus will stay sky high. i am curious to see what effect it has had on Hollywood Perryville because they could end up being a busy middle of the road substitute.
May 1st, 2013 at 5:13:41 AM
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Quote: hook3670Until Baltimore and National Harbor open, their minimus will stay sky high. i am curious to see what effect it has had on Hollywood Perryville because they could end up being a busy middle of the road substitute.
Agree completely, I keep thinking Hollywood Perryville would lower their minimums when tables opened at MD Live...so far no. But it's still early..it might happen yet.
May 1st, 2013 at 3:04:30 PM
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Two questions to anyone who knows:
1) What are mins at DE Park nowadays (21/craps/mini-bacc)? I'm guessing they have to be lower than Hollywood MD...
2) Can anyone confirm if Hollywood WV has lowered this mins since MD Live opened? At slow times I've been there, it's $10 craps/$15+ mini bacc and 21, and weekends has been $15+ craps/$25+ 21, and sometimes $15+, usually $25+ mini-bacc.
It'll be interesting to see what kind of action Rocky Gap gets when it opens. It is a tiny casino (500 slots, 10 tables), but Hagerstown and Cumberland, MD aren't that far away. Their points brochure on their website show table game ratings assuming a $10 minimum bet, if that's any clue of the expectations the management has.
1) What are mins at DE Park nowadays (21/craps/mini-bacc)? I'm guessing they have to be lower than Hollywood MD...
2) Can anyone confirm if Hollywood WV has lowered this mins since MD Live opened? At slow times I've been there, it's $10 craps/$15+ mini bacc and 21, and weekends has been $15+ craps/$25+ 21, and sometimes $15+, usually $25+ mini-bacc.
It'll be interesting to see what kind of action Rocky Gap gets when it opens. It is a tiny casino (500 slots, 10 tables), but Hagerstown and Cumberland, MD aren't that far away. Their points brochure on their website show table game ratings assuming a $10 minimum bet, if that's any clue of the expectations the management has.
May 1st, 2013 at 7:47:09 PM
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May Promo for Platinum members:
Platinum rebate: may 17th (fri) 6am - 11:59pm
bonus valid 6PM - 11:50pm
anyone know what this is?
Platinum rebate: may 17th (fri) 6am - 11:59pm
bonus valid 6PM - 11:50pm
anyone know what this is?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
May 2nd, 2013 at 8:55:06 AM
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Quote: silversonic2006Two questions to anyone who knows:
1) What are mins at DE Park nowadays (21/craps/mini-bacc)? I'm guessing they have to be lower than Hollywood MD...
2) Can anyone confirm if Hollywood WV has lowered this mins since MD Live opened? At slow times I've been there, it's $10 craps/$15+ mini bacc and 21, and weekends has been $15+ craps/$25+ 21, and sometimes $15+, usually $25+ mini-bacc.
It'll be interesting to see what kind of action Rocky Gap gets when it opens. It is a tiny casino (500 slots, 10 tables), but Hagerstown and Cumberland, MD aren't that far away. Their points brochure on their website show table game ratings assuming a $10 minimum bet, if that's any clue of the expectations the management has.
I have a buddy who goes to DE park almost daily. To my surprise he reports that the minimums you quoted above are pretty much still standard. $10/15 during the day and mostly $25 at night and on weekends. He says maybe one or two $15 BJ/roulette/craps at night but the rest are higher still. I'm surprised; I thought they'd lower them. The only thing I can think of is that Hollywood Perryville is so small it's not pulling much from Del Park.
I've heard Charlestown has lowered some minimums but haven't been there recently enough to say for sure.
The state of MD has been trying to promote Rocky Gap as a resort area for years with little or no success. It's really in the ass end of nowhere. I can't see the casino opening there drawing any meaningful numbers from the Balt. or DC markets. As you point out from Hagerstown or Cumberland it's an ok trip ....but everywhere else is just too damn far away.
May 2nd, 2013 at 11:19:09 AM
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Now only two casinos offer table games, but I see a huge appetite for them at the Maryland casinos. I think over the winter ocean city is going to build onto their casino and add tables and Perryville is going to add more as well. National Harbor will be a gold mine unlike any other. It will be a stones throw away from Northern Virginia where 2 of the top 5 richest and biggest counties are, not to mention very convenient to DC. It will also be the most convenient casino in the South, outside of South Florida, to get to. I would not be surprised, especially since it will have a hotel and National Harbor has plenty of hotelspace, for the place to draw people from as far away as South Carolina.
May 2nd, 2013 at 3:41:07 PM
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Quote: vendman1I have a buddy who goes to DE park almost daily. To my surprise he reports that the minimums you quoted above are pretty much still standard. $10/15 during the day and mostly $25 at night and on weekends. He says maybe one or two $15 BJ/roulette/craps at night but the rest are higher still. I'm surprised; I thought they'd lower them. The only thing I can think of is that Hollywood Perryville is so small it's not pulling much from Del Park.
I've heard Charlestown has lowered some minimums but haven't been there recently enough to say for sure.
The state of MD has been trying to promote Rocky Gap as a resort area for years with little or no success. It's really in the ass end of nowhere. I can't see the casino opening there drawing any meaningful numbers from the Balt. or DC markets. As you point out from Hagerstown or Cumberland it's an ok trip ....but everywhere else is just too damn far away.
Vendman1, thanks for the update! I guess this just further proves how much people do not stray from their local casino. Parx is barely an hour away, and to me it is MUCH more classy than DE Park (almost in an MD Live kind of way). They consistently offer at least some $15 craps and 21 on Saturday nights, based on their table min page, and they defnitely have plenty of green-chip seats open on the weekends. MD Live would be well served to add the same app on their page, so at least people know what to expect. Dover Downs has $5 and $10 games, and they're only 45 minutes down the road.
On Rocky Gap, I think it's mainly meant to prop up the resort, not to make money for the state. I've passed by...it's literally in the middle of wilderness right off I-68. Cumberland is nearby, so maybe some locals will drift over there, but I think the casino was put there to entice a private buyer to purchase the resort and get it off the state's books.
May 6th, 2013 at 3:25:03 PM
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mon noon:
2 craps tables-> both $25 min and both were full
2 craps tables-> both $25 min and both were full
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
May 6th, 2013 at 3:37:17 PM
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Went to ML last night _(Cinco de Mayo)
Nice place...excellent choices in food!
Plenty of parking spaces at 8:00 PM.
Signed up for Player's Club, walked over to the 8 Craps tables with a $400 BR.
Minimums $25 and UP...too rich for me. Plunked down $200 and hauled A$$ 10 minutes later with a win of $125.
Drove over to Charles Town...2 out of 4 tables open with $10 minimum and 2X odds.
TOO MUCH SMOKE!
Played 3 hours and broke absolutely even....lived to play another day!
I still think Harrington is the best place to play craps in this region, all things considered.
My friend says Dover Downs is now part of MLife...could be a good thing...rack up points here for Vegas!
Good Luck All!
Nice place...excellent choices in food!
Plenty of parking spaces at 8:00 PM.
Signed up for Player's Club, walked over to the 8 Craps tables with a $400 BR.
Minimums $25 and UP...too rich for me. Plunked down $200 and hauled A$$ 10 minutes later with a win of $125.
Drove over to Charles Town...2 out of 4 tables open with $10 minimum and 2X odds.
TOO MUCH SMOKE!
Played 3 hours and broke absolutely even....lived to play another day!
I still think Harrington is the best place to play craps in this region, all things considered.
My friend says Dover Downs is now part of MLife...could be a good thing...rack up points here for Vegas!
Good Luck All!
May 10th, 2013 at 11:36:11 AM
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Went to Charlestown this morning finally -
Definitely less tables open than my last visit 2 years ago. Only the main entrance pit and 1 mini-bac and PGP poker table open at 10:30am. They do have one table of Spanish 21 with S17 and 6 decks now. Minimums for BJ were $10/$15 - they were only running one craps table so I couldn't check that out easily.
I can confirm that CT has 1 pai gow tiles table open - across from the High limit area with the PGP and mini-bac tables. According to the dealer, who had just finished dealer school for the game, there are 13 dealers that can deal tiles. THe tiles have the WV lottery logo on them - the floor said that WV required it, rather than only having the casino logo. Limits were $25 min $1k max. We did have to try and suggest that a H7 bo and H10 H2 should've been played Bo/2, but he wouldn't have any of it. :)
The dealers I spoke to stated the regulars are back after exploring MD Live, but to me, table business was less than it was 2 yrs ago. Limits seemed generally $15 across the board when I left at 1:30.
-B
Definitely less tables open than my last visit 2 years ago. Only the main entrance pit and 1 mini-bac and PGP poker table open at 10:30am. They do have one table of Spanish 21 with S17 and 6 decks now. Minimums for BJ were $10/$15 - they were only running one craps table so I couldn't check that out easily.
I can confirm that CT has 1 pai gow tiles table open - across from the High limit area with the PGP and mini-bac tables. According to the dealer, who had just finished dealer school for the game, there are 13 dealers that can deal tiles. THe tiles have the WV lottery logo on them - the floor said that WV required it, rather than only having the casino logo. Limits were $25 min $1k max. We did have to try and suggest that a H7 bo and H10 H2 should've been played Bo/2, but he wouldn't have any of it. :)
The dealers I spoke to stated the regulars are back after exploring MD Live, but to me, table business was less than it was 2 yrs ago. Limits seemed generally $15 across the board when I left at 1:30.
-B
May 10th, 2013 at 2:55:16 PM
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Quote: toastcmuWent to Charlestown this morning finally -
Definitely less tables open than my last visit 2 years ago. Only the main entrance pit and 1 mini-bac and PGP poker table open at 10:30am. They do have one table of Spanish 21 with S17 and 6 decks now. Minimums for BJ were $10/$15 - they were only running one craps table so I couldn't check that out easily.
I can confirm that CT has 1 pai gow tiles table open - across from the High limit area with the PGP and mini-bac tables. According to the dealer, who had just finished dealer school for the game, there are 13 dealers that can deal tiles. THe tiles have the WV lottery logo on them - the floor said that WV required it, rather than only having the casino logo. Limits were $25 min $1k max. We did have to try and suggest that a H7 bo and H10 H2 should've been played Bo/2, but he wouldn't have any of it. :)
The dealers I spoke to stated the regulars are back after exploring MD Live, but to me, table business was less than it was 2 yrs ago. Limits seemed generally $15 across the board when I left at 1:30.
-B
Planning on heading to Charlestown soon,maybe tonight, will post conditions if I do. My experience there, is that they are very tight with opening tables, I've seen them still opening the tables at 8-9pm ish on a Friday. They mostly only open 1 pit during the day, and maybe 2 at night. The only time I've seen most of the pits open is on a Fri or Sat night.
May 13th, 2013 at 10:13:22 AM
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Charlestown could finally open up a ultimate texas table, they have one at Penn. That would make the trip out there bearable while we wait for MdLive to get poker.
MdLive has at 6 UTH tables running now and nearly every seat is filled whenever I go.
MdLive has at 6 UTH tables running now and nearly every seat is filled whenever I go.
May 13th, 2013 at 4:20:10 PM
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Different state, different rules. People on here have said WV regulators do not make it easy to amend the gaming rules, so I'm guessing getting a new game added to the repertoire is a pain, if UTH was not part of the original regulations. I have to imagine that's why Charles Town doesn't offer squeeze midi-baccarat in their high limit area, since MD, PA, and DE all definitely allow for it.
I tried to Google for WV table game rules, but couldn't find them.
I tried to Google for WV table game rules, but couldn't find them.
May 17th, 2013 at 1:15:42 PM
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fri noon
3 $25 craps tables (mostly full)
1 $50 craps tables (half full)
e-craps : $25 min on main island.
probably $10 min at bar
also noticed that gold members get 25% bonus points and platinum members get 50% more.
wasnt it 50% and 100% bonus before tables games were introduced??
3 $25 craps tables (mostly full)
1 $50 craps tables (half full)
e-craps : $25 min on main island.
probably $10 min at bar
also noticed that gold members get 25% bonus points and platinum members get 50% more.
wasnt it 50% and 100% bonus before tables games were introduced??
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
May 17th, 2013 at 5:31:10 PM
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Yeesh....the live craps I kind of get, but there are really people willing to play $25 mins for (effectively) video craps, when another post suggested Hollywood WV might be holding it to $10, even on weekends?!
Looking at websites of other Horseshoe casinos around the country, I'm guessing the Baltimore one will offer 10X odds and mins somewhere under MD Live. Then again, if MD live can command mins like this, I don't even want to know what the PG casino will get (I'm predicting it'll be an MGM Grand, although Hollywood Rosecroft and Parx MD are in the running too).
Looking at websites of other Horseshoe casinos around the country, I'm guessing the Baltimore one will offer 10X odds and mins somewhere under MD Live. Then again, if MD live can command mins like this, I don't even want to know what the PG casino will get (I'm predicting it'll be an MGM Grand, although Hollywood Rosecroft and Parx MD are in the running too).
May 18th, 2013 at 8:52:11 PM
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sat 10pm
all 8 craps tables are active.
2 are $25min, rest are $50. every single table has people on them
e-Craps main island is $25min
bar is probably $10min.
i broke even at e-Craps playing Don;t. very choppy. 3 (on passline roll),6,and 8 were rolling ike nuts. left after 30min
all 8 craps tables are active.
2 are $25min, rest are $50. every single table has people on them
e-Craps main island is $25min
bar is probably $10min.
i broke even at e-Craps playing Don;t. very choppy. 3 (on passline roll),6,and 8 were rolling ike nuts. left after 30min
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
May 18th, 2013 at 9:42:23 PM
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Way too rich for my blood. I'm surprised there's no $100 table, honestly...at 10X odds, that could be a lot of pumpkins moving around the table.
May 19th, 2013 at 6:53:53 PM
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Went to Hollywood Charlestown, Sat night 5/18. To my surprise it was very packed. All table game pits open. Roulette at $10-15 min. Even the Rapid Roulette was $10. Craps $15. Most BJ pits $25..but 2 big pits near the bar...the party pit area basically; were at $15, plus one row of tables in the main area were also $15. Usually it's only one $15 pit if any on weekends. So the BJ limits are coming down a little at least, Still no BJ at $10 though. The staff I talked to were poo-pooing the impact of MD live on their business.
