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February 10th, 2012 at 8:10:02 AM permalink
I'll be getting my new passport Feb 16th. Then I can schedule an appointment for a visa application and interview. The timing is uncertain, but it should guarantee a visa by early April. So my plans for a trip spanning May 6th through 18th are unaltered.

Going by the previous polls and general comments, it seems a weekend is the best possible date, pedning whatever globe-trotting or mountain-climbing the Wizard will be involved with (it's not WoVCon without the guest of honor). So my suggestiosn are Saturday May 12th and Sunday May 13th. But I wouldn't be opposed to a weekday WoVCon, either, at any time between May 7th and 17th.

I would consider June, too, but not April. July, alas, is out of the question.

The venue will likely remain the Chicago Brew Pub at 4 Queens (should it still be there by May, Vegas being in constant flux and all...), but I'm open to any other Downtown venue, like the microbrew place at MSS. I would even consider a Strip venue. I think Downtown is cozier and offers better gaming. But as most out of towners stay on the Strip, that has advantages as well.

All input is welcome.
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February 10th, 2012 at 8:37:10 AM permalink
If all goes according to plan, I *may* be in Vegas in the next couple months, to have a meeting with a game distributor about Poker For Roulette.

I'm hoping it is in early May, but you never know with these things, so I won't vote....


On a somewhat related note, I'm hoping the meeting is before 5/13. There's an exhibit until 5/13 at the Springs Reserve that looks interesting, and may interest others, so here's the link: Space: A Journey To Out Future.
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February 10th, 2012 at 8:44:49 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

If all goes according to plan, I *may* be in Vegas in the next couple months, to have a meeting with a game distributor about Poker For Roulette.

I'm hoping it is in early May, but you never know with these things, so I won't vote....


On a somewhat related note, I'm hoping the meeting is before 5/13. There's an exhibit until 5/13 at the Springs Reserve that looks interesting, and may interest others, so here's the link: Space: A Journey To Out Future.



I voted for the 12th. The 13th works as well. June could also work, but I'd have to see specific dates there.
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February 10th, 2012 at 9:10:29 AM permalink
The 12th and 13th of May are both good for me. It looks like the only bad time in May for me will be the first week.
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February 10th, 2012 at 9:10:58 AM permalink
I know these dates may not work for most, but I will be in town from May 2-May 7.
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February 10th, 2012 at 9:21:33 AM permalink
Quote: hook3670

I know these dates may not work for most, but I will be in town from May 2-May 7.



I considered the first week of May, but if I do that I lose one day off to my vacation time. Sorry.
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February 10th, 2012 at 9:48:54 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The 12th and 13th of May are both good for me. It looks like the only bad time in May for me will be the first week.



Hey, that's great!

The first week won't work for me, either. So that's two of us already :)
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February 11th, 2012 at 5:34:57 AM permalink
Bump!

Quick joke:

Q How many Outsiders does it take to screw-in a light bulb?
A That information costs one trillion Stars.

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February 11th, 2012 at 5:42:03 AM permalink
Memorial Day Weekend!
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February 11th, 2012 at 4:59:02 PM permalink
I just voted for "Other day in May", but don't interpret that as a serious objection to either of the proposed dates. I am such a cheapskate that on my Vegas visits I frequently get out of town (to Laughlin or Palm Springs) for the higher-priced nights in Las Vegas. If there is a WoVCon ][ going on, I'll take that as justification to pay the higher rates. I do have a bit of a problem with Memorial Day weekend -- my wife and I will be flying with a Companion Certificate (buy one ticket and get another for almost free.) My certificate expires the end of May and we must complete our flights by then, so the holiday weekend is cutting things a bit tight for us.

When the date is really set, I will make my reservations, but I am too cheap a guy to book and then pay change fees.
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February 11th, 2012 at 5:37:04 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

I just voted for "Other day in May", but don't interpret that as a serious objection to either of the proposed dates. I am such a cheapskate that on my Vegas visits I frequently get out of town (to Laughlin or Palm Springs) for the higher-priced nights in Las Vegas. If there is a WoVCon ][ going on, I'll take that as justification to pay the higher rates.



Back in '06, I scheduled my flights to and from Orlando to fall on Thursday, because flying on Friday or weekends cost more. I wound up returning to work on a Friday, and we stayed at the office til 4 am. Then we worked Saturday and Sunday. If I hadn't been cheap, I'd have missed that delightful weekend ;)

I'm not making a point. Just telling a story.

Anyway, I'll be in Vegas almost 2 weeks. May 6/18. I have no definite plans on what to do. Oh, I know what I'll do, but it doesn't matter when. SO I wouldn't be adverse to meeting outside of WoVCon ][, or even holding a WoVCon ][.1 or a pre-WovCon-Con :) Of course I can't speak for Mike. So <shrug>

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I do have a bit of a problem with Memorial Day weekend



So do I. it's way off my time frame.
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February 13th, 2012 at 6:49:36 AM permalink
Daily bump.

Q How amny Ringworld Engineers does it take to screw-in a light bulb?
A Six hundred. Suns are hard to move!

Again, apologies to those not familiar with Larry Niven's work.
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February 13th, 2012 at 9:56:06 AM permalink
At past WoVCons, what were the main activities? Or is the main activity just a dinner?
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February 13th, 2012 at 10:10:36 AM permalink
At the WoV Lunch in Sept '10, it was 6 of us at Hash House, basically talking about whatever came to mind. I have no idea how long it lasted, but I'm thinking about 2 hours. I talk about it in my lunch report.

At the WoV G2E Dinner in Oct '11, it was 4 of us at Buca de Bepo for a couple hours. The principale topic was the Wizard's Waitress Jeopardy. Afterwards, we went across the street to Terribles to play BJ for a few hours. I talk about it in the Day 3 section of my trip log.
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February 13th, 2012 at 1:03:51 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

At past WoVCons, what were the main activities? Or is the main activity just a dinner?



Officially there has only been one WoVCon, back in June 2010. There is a report on the board somewhere. You may count the first Wizard Coffee in '09, which I think was held at Palace Station, call it WoVCon 0.

So, the activites at WoVCon 0 were lunch (I believe witha trivia contest) and then Pai Gow (tiles). In WovCon I there was lunch and trivia, followed by poker at Binion's (I forget where Lunch took place).

In keeping with tradition,t here will be lunch and a trivia contest at WoVCon ][ (I'll rpovide it if the Wizard doesn't; something short), followed by some kind of gambling. Given the venue at the 4 Queens Downtown, I'm inclined to suggest craps at MSS at 20X odds, or at the 4 Queens itslef which offers good odds too (I forget whether it's 5X or 10X), or at El cortez (100X? 10X? I'm not sure).

But I'm open to suggestions. We could also play BJ, for example, or try Dan's EZ PGP at the Golden Nugget or elsewhere (of course moving away from Downtown is bound to be problematic).

We should also head to the train tracks and try the coin experiment.
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February 13th, 2012 at 2:03:09 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

At the WoV Lunch in Sept '10, it was 6 of us



What was the one last year, when Croupier was there. The
point is, everybody talks about these get togethers for months
on end, and almost nobody shows up. Why bother.
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February 13th, 2012 at 2:22:03 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Officially there has only been one WoVCon, back in June 2010. There is a report on the board somewhere. You may count the first Wizard Coffee in '09, which I think was held at Palace Station, call it WoVCon 0.

So, the activites at WoVCon 0 were lunch (I believe witha trivia contest) and then Pai Gow (tiles). In WovCon I there was lunch and trivia, followed by poker at Binion's (I forget where Lunch took place).

In keeping with tradition,t here will be lunch and a trivia contest at WoVCon ][ (I'll rpovide it if the Wizard doesn't; something short), followed by some kind of gambling. Given the venue at the 4 Queens Downtown, I'm inclined to suggest craps at MSS at 20X odds, or at the 4 Queens itslef which offers good odds too (I forget whether it's 5X or 10X), or at El cortez (100X? 10X? I'm not sure).

But I'm open to suggestions. We could also play BJ, for example, or try Dan's EZ PGP at the Golden Nugget or elsewhere (of course moving away from Downtown is bound to be problematic).

We should also head to the train tracks and try the coin experiment.


Sounds like fun...I'm going to Vegas once in March and once in April already, so we'll see if I can get away with another trip in May, and by "get away with" I mean there are multiple angles I have to work here...the financial angle, the girlfriend angle, and the work angle. So it's probably less than 50% right now. But it would be fun to meet some of you.

If I end up going I'll vote on preferred gambling activities. I would prefer Blackjack and then craps, but I'd be fine with whatever.
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February 13th, 2012 at 2:38:15 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

What was the one last year, when Croupier was there.

I wasn't at that one.
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February 13th, 2012 at 4:32:34 PM permalink
I thought WoVCON II was coinciding with Ms Blonde's weigh-in in October.

Not that it matters to me, I'll not be there at either option.
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February 13th, 2012 at 4:49:08 PM permalink
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I thought WoVCON II was coinciding with Ms Blonde's weigh-in in October.



In the first attempts to set a date, it would have taken palce near her birthday.

A weigh-in in October would be great, especially if some of her bettors are there to pay up. Alas, I can't make it in October unless I want to be fired.

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Not that it matters to me, I'll not be there at either option.



Too bad. Is any other date convenient for you? I probably can't amke it more than once a year to Vegas (make that certainly), but acceosry WoVCons would be a nice thing to have. Maybe you can even set up WovCon ]I[ (it doens't ahve to be only once a year, either)
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February 14th, 2012 at 1:51:28 PM permalink
Daily bump.

I've run out of Known Space jokes. So:

Q How many Marsies does it take to screw-in a light bulb?
A The light bulb will not be free until the sands run red with Earther blood!

I thought I'd try something even mroe obscure ;)

Anyone care to identify the source? Hint: it was not on network TV.
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February 14th, 2012 at 1:55:11 PM permalink
On the subject of a WoVCon in October: G2E is 10/1 to 10/4.
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February 14th, 2012 at 7:49:08 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

On the subject of a WoVCon in October: G2E is 10/1 to 10/4.



Crap! That means I'll have to pick between HB's weigh-in and G2E. That's almost poll-worthy: Hot Blonde in a bikini, or talking to folks about the game I'm trying to develop?
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February 15th, 2012 at 7:28:29 AM permalink
Daily bump:

Q How many bureucrats it taks to screw-in a light bulb?

A Let's see: one to file the malfunctioning illumination device form, one to stamp the form, one to file the stamped form, one to missplace the form, one to re-file the form, one to re-stamp the form, one to find the form seven weeks later, one to launch an investigation as to why two forms were filed for a single malfunctioning illumination device, and one to leak to the press his government agency's budget isn't enough as they can't afford to replace burnt light bulbs.
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February 16th, 2012 at 6:56:08 AM permalink
Is it even worth bumping any more?

Q How many Vulcans does it take to screw-in a light bulb?
A The logical amount.

So, all those of you voting for another date in May, which date within the 7th and 17th would be agreeable to you?
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February 16th, 2012 at 7:19:48 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Is it even worth bumping any more?



No.
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February 16th, 2012 at 7:29:48 AM permalink
Unfortunately for you, I have many more light bulb jokes :)
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February 16th, 2012 at 8:39:50 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Unfortunately for you, I have many more light bulb jokes :)

Go back to Niven. I'd like a Footfall joke. :)
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February 16th, 2012 at 10:23:14 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

So, all those of you voting for another date in May, which date within the 7th and 17th would be agreeable to you?

One of those votes was mine, so I'll reply. Most any date in that range is fine with me, just so long as I know the date before I need to make my reservations. I usually book a flight and room about two months in advance, so sometime in the next month, roughly. As I indicated earlier, my preference (absent other input) would be for a weekday so that I slip out of town on the expensive nights, but I am more interested in there being good attendance, which might point toward the weekend meeting days.

Is there any coherent feedback on who is expecting to be able to attend? Any chance of the locals other than the Wizard making it this year? I don't have any idea of how far in advance the casino employees on this forum know their (basic) work schedules, so I don't know whether that can be input to the date/time decisions.
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February 16th, 2012 at 10:49:45 AM permalink
Nareed, most people are working and take trips that revolve around the weekends. Basically, you're saying if you want to come during a weekend, that it has to be May 12.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is, just pick the date instead of asking people.
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February 16th, 2012 at 10:51:14 AM permalink
Quote: sunrise089

Go back to Niven. I'd like a Footfall joke. :)



That's a hard book to read once. But I can get back to Niven.

Q How many tree dwellers does it take to screw-in a light bulb?
A1 who knwos with these scary, scientific things!
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February 16th, 2012 at 11:28:53 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Bump!

Quick joke:

Q How many Outsiders does it take to screw-in a light bulb?
A That information costs one trillion Stars.

Apologies to those unfamiliar with Larry Niven's Known Space



This same Larry Niven ??
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February 16th, 2012 at 11:36:48 AM permalink
I only go to the WovCon's when I know Jerry Logan will
be there.
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February 16th, 2012 at 11:40:16 AM permalink
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I only go to the WovCon's when I know Jerry Logan will
be there.



Now I am confused. Someone told me in strictest confidence that Jerry Logan was your alias.
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February 16th, 2012 at 11:56:17 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

As I indicated earlier, my preference (absent other input) would be for a weekday so that I slip out of town on the expensive nights, but I am more interested in there being good attendance, which might point toward the weekend meeting days.



Do you leave town on Friday or Saturday? If the latter, then May 12th sort of works for you, if you don't mind driving to Laughlin or California or wherever you go late in the afternoon.

On FinsRule's advice, though, I'm choosing May 12th, since ti also ahd one more vote than May 13th.

Doc, I hope you can make it.
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February 16th, 2012 at 12:30:26 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Now I am confused. Someone told me in strictest confidence that Jerry Logan was your alias.



Its one of my aliases but I am NOT the real JL.
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February 16th, 2012 at 12:32:59 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

This same Larry Niven ??



I don't think so. But if you want to discuss Niven, post a new thread. This one is about to die anyway :)
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Oh it is the same Larry Niven indeed. LOL
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February 16th, 2012 at 3:20:15 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

I'm choosing May 12th, since ti also ahd one more vote than May 13th.

Doc, I hope you can make it.


Saturday 5/12 is fine, and I'll be there. At least I'll be there in Las Vegas, since I just made my flight and room reservations. In order for me to be at WoVCon][ someone will need to let me know about final decisions on place and time.
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February 16th, 2012 at 3:26:44 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

Saturday 5/12 is fine, and I'll be there. At least I'll be there in Las Vegas, since I just made my flight and room reservations. In order for me to be at WoVCon][ someone will need to let me know about final decisions on place and time.



Great!

I'll let you know. I expect a formal date anouncement soon, and a poll as to the gambling to be done afterwards. The place will likely be the pub/bar at 4 Queens.

BTW is anyone up for the Emperor's Buffet Challenge? I let down Croupier on that last year, and I'd like to at least finish it before the property gets rebranded.
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February 16th, 2012 at 4:55:19 PM permalink
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BTW is anyone up for the Emperor's Buffet Challenge?

Some day I will check out their car collection, and last year (or maybe the year before) I considered going to see the troupe of Asian acrobats that was performing there, but I don't think I'll be going to that Palace for the food in the foreseeable future.

This trip, I will be staying at the Rio. BTW, does anyone know what is going on in Las Vegas that has the room rates at all of the Caesars properties significantly higher the previous weekend (May 4-6) than on the WoVCon][ weekend?
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February 16th, 2012 at 4:56:45 PM permalink
Derby weekend, fight weekend
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February 16th, 2012 at 5:02:16 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

BTW is anyone up for the Emperor's Buffet Challenge? I let down Croupier on that last year, and I'd like to at least finish it before the property gets rebranded.


Is the challenge simply to eat a meal at the Emperor's Buffet?
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February 16th, 2012 at 5:03:19 PM permalink
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Derby weekend, fight weekend

Thanks. I'm not into horses or brutal "entertainment", so I was not up on those events. Two years ago I watched the derby on TV at the Searchlight Nugget, waiting for the tables to open so I could get my souvenir chip.

I assume the fight (don't even know who is competing) will be on Saturday night. The Caesars properties have higher-than-normal room rates on into the following week. I will arrive on Wednesday 5/9, and that night at the Rio will be the highest rate I will pay, even higher than the following Friday and Saturday nights. It just seemed odd.
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February 16th, 2012 at 7:01:34 PM permalink
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Is the challenge simply to eat a meal at the Emperor's Buffet?

If so, I already won.

I wrote about it in my hotel report, which became the official WoV IP review.
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February 16th, 2012 at 7:16:52 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

Is the challenge simply to eat a meal at the Emperor's Buffet?



Well, it's not quite a challenge.

The idea was for Croupier, his wife and I to sample every dish available at the Emperor's Buffet at the IP, and rate each one. This came from the many comments deriding said buffet, including mine that it would have to improve considerably in order to be considered bad.
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February 16th, 2012 at 7:19:53 PM permalink
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This trip, I will be staying at the Rio. BTW, does anyone know what is going on in Las Vegas that has the room rates at all of the Caesars properties significantly higher the previous weekend (May 4-6) than on the WoVCon][ weekend?



Good choice. Make sure you try the buffet.

BTW I did notice, weeks ago, rates for that week were high. I thought it was due to being the weekend of may 5th, which is Cinco de Mayo (meaning, coincidentally, the Fifth of May), a holiday much celebrated by people of Mexican descent.
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