Is Ron Paul
Quote: vert1276Just Barry Goldwater 2.0?
No, Paul is a kind of view to his own. Similar to Dennis Kusenich (sp?) but Paul is with the GOP. While some of Paul's views deserve a hard look (ie: what is really Constitutional) he wants virtually no national defense and thinks we can run an economy with no central bank. While I agree the Fed has done a horrible job at currency stability what with the dollar losing 99% if value since Fed formation, you do need a central bank.
I knew nothing about RP but he lost my vote the first 30 seconds I saw of him at a debate when he said our own policies were to blame for 9-11. Again, hardly something a conservative would say.
Barry Goldwater is way too liberal for today's Republican party.Quote: vert1276Just Barry Goldwater 2.0?
Quote: AZDuffmanI knew nothing about RP but he lost my vote the first 30 seconds I saw of him at a debate when he said our own policies were to blame for 9-11. Again, hardly something a conservative would say.
He's neither Republican nor Democrat.
As for 9/11: who can doubt that our country's foreign policy pissed off / provoked Osama and his crew?
American culture is the antithesis of a fundamentalist Muslim worldview.
Quote: AZDuffmanWhile some of Paul's views deserve a hard look (ie: what is really Constitutional) he wants virtually no national defense and thinks we can run an economy with no central bank.
It's difficult not to find something that RP says that you think makes sense. But the overall package seems so far out in space that he seems to be in it to keep the race interesting.
Quote: s2dbakerBarry Goldwater is way too liberal for today's Republican party.
This. So, for that matter, were Reagan and Nixon. Nixon would have thrown his hands up in disgust.
(IMO Nixon had the potential to be the greatest president of all, but his personal demons undermined him.)
Quote: s2dbakerBarry Goldwater is way too liberal for today's Republican party.
And JFK was way too conservative for today's Democrat party. What is your point?
Quote: MrVAs for 9/11: who can doubt that our country's foreign policy pissed off / provoked Osama and his crew?
American culture is the antithesis of a fundamentalist Muslim worldview.
That doesn't mean you care that it did. Israeli foreign policy upsets Iran. USSR foreign policy upset the USA. India upsets Pakistan. Pakistan upsets India.
But the common thread is that the leaders of all of the countries that upset another do not get up and blame themselves and their country.
Quote: AZDuffmanAnd JFK was way too conservative for today's Democrat party. What is your point?
Just write in Joe Arpaio.
My point is that Ron Paul can't be Goldwater 2.0 because Barry Goldwater is a flaming liberal by comparison. To address your concerns about JFK being too conservative for the DemocRAT party, I disagree. I would be more than happy to go back to the "too conservative" tax rates under the JFK administration.Quote: AZDuffmanAnd JFK was way too conservative for today's Democrat party. What is your point?
Quote: s2dbakerMy point is that Ron Paul can't be Goldwater 2.0 because Barry Goldwater is a flaming liberal by comparison. To address your concerns about JFK being too conservative for the DemocRAT party, I disagree. I would be more than happy to go back to the "too conservative" tax rates under the JFK administration.
If you want to pay more, by all means send the Treasury a check. Nothing is stopping you.
I have yet to see even one person who calls for higher taxes sending more money via "Gift to the Treasury."
However, if JFK's policies were implemented today Obama and other dems would say he gave "tax cuts to the rich."
Quote: s2dbakerMy point is that Ron Paul can't be Goldwater 2.0 because Barry Goldwater is a flaming liberal by comparison. To address your concerns about JFK being too conservative for the DemocRAT party, I disagree. I would be more than happy to go back to the "too conservative" tax rates under the JFK administration.
LOL@ you for calling Goldwater a "flaming liberal" by comparison. And The JFK administration had lower EFFECTIVE tax rates than we do now. and inflation adjusted the federal goverment collect 6 times less in taxes that the federal goverment does today. Marginal rates mean nothing. If the marginal rate is 90% but everything is a tax deduction and tax credit is the rate really 90%? marginal rates are what the goverment uses to trick the sheepeole who dont understand tax code
