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June 13th, 2022 at 3:10:25 PM permalink
i dont knoe why hybrid cars havent been advised to be purchased to buy instead of gas or electric..I mean wouldnt they benefit both electric makers and combustible engine manufacturerers..seems like a common sense way to leave less of a carbon footprint and be greener..maybe im being OBTUSE...
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June 13th, 2022 at 5:12:31 PM permalink
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i dont knoe why hybrid cars havent been advised to be purchased to buy instead of gas or electric..I mean wouldnt they benefit both electric makers and combustible engine manufacturerers..seems like a common sense way to leave less of a carbon footprint and be greener..maybe im being OBTUSE...
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you seem to totally overestimate the advantages of hybrids. A really un green option.
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June 13th, 2022 at 6:09:14 PM permalink
no i get it. hybrids use gas and electric. i know the pollution problems with the gasoline side and the battery part is not cheapvor environmentally clean BUT they sure get good gas mileage..at least the one I rented for 11 days.. I only filled up ! time in 11 days ..It just seems a better option than gas only cars or electric only..And now with expensive gasoline why not buy a Hybrid, if one is looking to buy a vehicle..
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June 13th, 2022 at 7:22:18 PM permalink
Update: $6.09 in Reno, Nv. for regular. Diesel about .10 cents more. LOL...our county gas tax is going up $1,89 beginning July 1. Voters approved the hike back in 2008.
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June 14th, 2022 at 4:26:37 PM permalink
As I understand things, hybrids are best suited for short-haul drives and what the EPA calls 'city' driving. The systems onboard keep the gas engine running until the batteries are fully charged, and then the electric system takes over. The gas kicks in when you need extra power, like when the blue lights come on, or when the battery charge starts getting low.

This keeps the gas engine operating optimally and in the best power band, whilst the electrical system does all the optimizing, including regenerative braking.

Since I don't commute anymore, and live out in the country, I have passed on considering hybrids.
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June 14th, 2022 at 4:42:48 PM permalink
Hybrids can still get 50+ mpg on the highway which is better than any other gas car I've heard of. They get worse mileage in colder weather, and at faster speeds above 65 mph. If you're driving desert roads at 100 mph where the speed limit is 85 mph, the gas mileage will go down. The number one maintenance issue is keeping the fan filter for the HV battery clean. Be sure to run the air conditioner if it's 100 degrees out.
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June 15th, 2022 at 5:20:45 AM permalink
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Update: $6.09 in Reno, Nv. for regular. Diesel about .10 cents more. LOL...our county gas tax is going up $1,89 beginning July 1. Voters approved the hike back in 2008.
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Nevada currently has the distinction as the most expensive gas in the nation, compared to average income.
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June 15th, 2022 at 5:42:44 AM permalink
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Update: $6.09 in Reno, Nv. for regular. Diesel about .10 cents more. LOL...our county gas tax is going up $1,89 beginning July 1. Voters approved the hike back in 2008.
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Nevada currently has the distinction as the most expensive gas in the nation, compared to average income.
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I still think Nevada incomes figures are horribly biased. In Nevada a high proportion of workers are tipped employees and most of those tips are not accounted for.
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Elon Musk tweets the price of gas & diesel at a local 7-11 convenience store. #MoBills


I just checked CNBC and Tesla closed at 711.11 today.
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June 21st, 2022 at 4:58:57 PM permalink
I paid $4.79 for a gallon of gas today. That is the most that I have ever spent.
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June 30th, 2022 at 10:09:43 AM permalink
I paid $3.99 for a gallon of gas today in northeast GA at a WM.

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June 30th, 2022 at 1:34:01 PM permalink
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I paid $3.99 for a gallon of gas today in northeast GA at a WM.

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I paid $4.44 in SW Florida today
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$4.99 in Western PA, although this report may be somewhat time delayed for security reasons.
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June 30th, 2022 at 5:56:24 PM permalink
4.79 here southwest side of Indianapolis
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July 5th, 2022 at 1:13:10 PM permalink
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4.79 here southwest side of Indianapolis
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I PAID $4.58 TODAY what a deal Holiday stations are $4.75 in mn...
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July 5th, 2022 at 1:15:21 PM permalink
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4.79 here southwest side of Indianapolis
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July 5th, 2022 at 1:16:02 PM permalink
$4.58 today what a deal most stations here [mn] are $4.75
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July 5th, 2022 at 1:46:47 PM permalink
Gas in Reno now around $5.79 for regular. The local gas tax hike was 2 cents. I still think gas needs to be higher, way too many cars on the road. Get the people who have no business owning a car off the roads. Teenagers doing burnouts, racing, etc just means gas is still too cheap.
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July 8th, 2022 at 7:59:05 PM permalink
Paid $3.86/gal today @ WM NE GA.

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July 9th, 2022 at 6:01:21 AM permalink
$3.39 at Circle K in Florida.
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July 10th, 2022 at 5:20:24 AM permalink
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I'm sure everyone has seen drivers who turn off their engines at stoplights

on the web there is a great deal of discussion about this mostly leaning towards - yes - it is a good idea to do this

I have not done this but I may start doing it

according to the link - the environmental defense fund - which may be biased - you will save lot by doing this

comments_______??


from the edf article:


" Frequent restarts are no longer hard on a car's engine and battery. The added wear (which amounts to no more than $10 a year) is much less costly than the cost of wasted fuel (which can add up to $70-650 a year, depending on fuel prices, idling habits and vehicle type). Idling actually increases overall engine wear by causing the car to operate for longer than necessary."




https://www.edf.org/attention-drivers-turn-your-idling-engines




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I'm sure everyone has seen drivers who turn off their engines at stoplights
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In case you're among the crowd with older cars where frequent starts are still hard on the equipment (or is undesirable because the air conditioning cuts out), I have heard that shifting an automatic transmission to neutral at stoplights can provide some modest benefit.
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July 10th, 2022 at 6:21:26 AM permalink
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$3.39 at Circle K in Florida.
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That was a typo. It was $4.39. Now down to $4.19
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July 10th, 2022 at 3:45:56 PM permalink
My near dead car battery won't put up with restarting without some mileage in between starts.
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I'm sure everyone has seen drivers who turn off their engines at stoplights

on the web there is a great deal of discussion about this mostly leaning towards - yes - it is a good idea to do this

I have not done this but I may start doing it

according to the link - the environmental defense fund - which may be biased - you will save lot by doing this

comments_______??


from the edf article:


" Frequent restarts are no longer hard on a car's engine and battery. The added wear (which amounts to no more than $10 a year) is much less costly than the cost of wasted fuel (which can add up to $70-650 a year, depending on fuel prices, idling habits and vehicle type). Idling actually increases overall engine wear by causing the car to operate for longer than necessary."




https://www.edf.org/attention-drivers-turn-your-idling-engines




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That’s fine and great until I have to sit idling through 2 red lights now because the people ahead of me took too long to start up and proceed through the light!
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December 23rd, 2023 at 7:33:35 AM permalink
I've had to upgrade to premium gas (93 octane) and it's got a wide spread of price in my area. But my last fill up was $4.37/gallon. I'm getting 27 to 33 mpg now so a tank can get me up to 450 miles if the pumps go dead for awhile. I hear gas could skyrocket in price soon with the Red Sea situation. Cargo ships are already charging 4X more for shipping than a couple weeks ago.
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Gas is down to $2.85 here in Florida for 87 octane.
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April 13th, 2024 at 5:59:52 PM permalink
Gas for 93 octane Premium at my cheapie gas station dropped to $3.71 since my last post but on the morning before the drone strikes against Israel by Iran in retaliation for a previous embassy attack in Syria by Israel, I paid $4.06/gallon. I should get 400 - 450 miles per tank, but I usually fill up after 300 miles driven, 10 gallons. I used a loyalty card and got 3 cents off per gallon, so that was $4.03/gallon.
Meet Kevin reports that gas lines are now forming in Israel, Lebanon, and Iran. Massive oil supply disruptions expected over the next weeks. Israel is jamming GPS to keep the drone strikes away. Just how does that affect local traffic?
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April 14th, 2024 at 4:01:27 PM permalink
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Gas for 93 octane Premium at my cheapie gas station dropped to $3.71 since my last post but on the morning before the drone strikes against Israel by Iran in retaliation for a previous embassy attack in Syria by Israel, I paid $4.06/gallon. I should get 400 - 450 miles per tank, but I usually fill up after 300 miles driven, 10 gallons. I used a loyalty card and got 3 cents off per gallon, so that was $4.03/gallon.
Meet Kevin reports that gas lines are now forming in Israel, Lebanon, and Iran. Massive oil supply disruptions expected over the next weeks. Israel is jamming GPS to keep the drone strikes away. Just how does that affect local traffic?
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I figured out how to save on gas, don't go anywhere. I filled up my van a week before Thanksgiving and I just filled it up again middle of April. That's 5 months on one tank of gas. Admittedly I bought this vehicle 3 years ago this month and have driven exactly 3500 miles. Mostly due to I have online gambling in Michigan and I never go to the casino anymore. So my van just sits in the garage. All my groceries are delivered by Walmart, my prescriptions are delivered, I keep Amazon in business. I have no place to drive even if I wanted to.
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April 14th, 2024 at 4:18:18 PM permalink
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Gas for 93 octane Premium at my cheapie gas station dropped to $3.71 since my last post but on the morning before the drone strikes against Israel by Iran in retaliation for a previous embassy attack in Syria by Israel, I paid $4.06/gallon. I should get 400 - 450 miles per tank, but I usually fill up after 300 miles driven, 10 gallons. I used a loyalty card and got 3 cents off per gallon, so that was $4.03/gallon.
Meet Kevin reports that gas lines are now forming in Israel, Lebanon, and Iran. Massive oil supply disruptions expected over the next weeks. Israel is jamming GPS to keep the drone strikes away. Just how does that affect local traffic?
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I figured out how to save on gas, don't go anywhere. I filled up my van a week before Thanksgiving and I just filled it up again middle of April. That's 5 months on one tank of gas. Admittedly I bought this vehicle 3 years ago this month and have driven exactly 3500 miles. Mostly due to I have online gambling in Michigan and I never go to the casino anymore. So my van just sits in the garage. All my groceries are delivered by Walmart, my prescriptions are delivered, I keep Amazon in business. I have no place to drive even if I wanted to.
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Wow, you drive less than I do.

How often do you leave your property? I probably leave mine twice a week on average.
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I usually drive 4,000 miles a year. My last car needed major repairs every 500 miles for several years in a row, it was an older than average car, but the average age of cars has creeped past 12 years old recently. I was getting 13 mpg on most tanks but it would get 25 mpg on the highway. It just seemed stopping for stop lights cut my gas mileage in half. If I can get a gambling winning streak going I'll be driving more. My insurance rates will jump up if I surpass 7,300 miles per year. My speedometer was already replaced in my new car and wrongly set back 7,000 miles, so when I get an oil change and inspection in the next month that will hit CarFax and probably alert the insurance company. Not sure if my insurance would be cancelled for driving negative miles in a year. I should be getting $10K (standard damages) to $100K (triple damages) from the dealer/service garage that did this odometer fraud but I don't know how to go about it without a lawyer. Other states have online lawyers that will take this case no problem, but I can't find anything advertised locally. I may have to check the local legal aid and see what they say.
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April 14th, 2024 at 9:42:02 PM permalink
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Wow, you drive less than I do.

How often do you leave your property? I probably leave mine twice a week on average.
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In the winter maybe twice a month. In the summer about once a week. Sometimes in the winter I go a whole month without going anywhere. When I bought this vehicle 3 years ago this month the oil was just changed. In the first two years I only drove 2500 miles but I had the oil changed because oil gets old and breaks down. If I was going by mileage I still have another couple thousand miles to go, LOL. Back before online gambling was made legal I was putting on a couple hundred miles a week going to local casinos. Thank God that's over. I actually stopped driving very much after covid in 2020 because all the casinos were closed.

I recently switched insurance companies to State Farm and when I told him how many miles I drove a year he didn't really believe me and wanted to put in one of those trackers they use now that monitor every mile you drive. When I explained to him the details of why I don't drive anywhere he understood and I didn't have to do it. What I've heard is those monitors might be in every vehicle in the near future, the insurance companies want it and they usually get what they want.
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April 14th, 2024 at 10:05:37 PM permalink
My brother said I was offered a tracker, but it was refused. I would refuse it too if he hadn't already. There's supposed to be a discount in the premium if you get it. I think the discount was around 10%, not much. Since then, my insurance has more than doubled going to the new car in one year. YouTube tells me this is a pervasive problem of insurance rate hikes of 50% to over 100% lately. One lady on the news found OnStar was feeding LexisNexis her driving habits and they forwarded that to the insurance company and jacked her rates up 90%, and other companies refused to insure her. GM has since stopped forwarding OnStar data to LexisNexis last month. If you brake too hard, they jack your rates up; if you peel out, they jack your rates up; if you speed, they jack your rates up. You have to drive like grandma to not get your rates jacked up. Stay away from trackers, and apparently OnStar. But all these cars have some kind of online tracker/navigation system that have the ability to feed insurance companies. Feeding driving data to the insurance companies needs to stop.

My next insurance bill will be 26% higher then the last one. It will be $600 for 6 months, and I used to pay $500 per year on my old car. But I'm seeing horror stories on the news about Las Vegas drivers paying $1,000/month for car insurance. I guess when you mingle with expensive cars and bad drivers and car theft rings, things get really expensive.
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April 15th, 2024 at 6:43:56 AM permalink
A few months ago I was getting rides to the clinic and the cars had trackers. They told me they monitor everything the car does and also everything inside the car. They can hear and record all conversations between passengers and driver and video it as well. Talk about Big Brother..
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Wow, you drive less than I do.

How often do you leave your property? I probably leave mine twice a week on average.
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In the winter maybe twice a month. In the summer about once a week. Sometimes in the winter I go a whole month without going anywhere. When I bought this vehicle 3 years ago this month the oil was just changed. In the first two years I only drove 2500 miles but I had the oil changed because oil gets old and breaks down. If I was going by mileage I still have another couple thousand miles to go, LOL. Back before online gambling was made legal I was putting on a couple hundred miles a week going to local casinos. Thank God that's over. I actually stopped driving very much after covid in 2020 because all the casinos were closed.

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Do you have any problems with fuel going stale or turning to varnish?
I know it's less of a problem with fuel injectors than carburetors, but some concern is warranted on "seldom used" vehicles.
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April 15th, 2024 at 7:46:41 AM permalink
Gas has been in the $3.20s recently where I live. It's been bouncing around between the $2.80s and $3.20s for the last few years now.
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April 15th, 2024 at 11:01:10 AM permalink
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Wow, you drive less than I do.

How often do you leave your property? I probably leave mine twice a week on average.
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In the winter maybe twice a month. In the summer about once a week. Sometimes in the winter I go a whole month without going anywhere. When I bought this vehicle 3 years ago this month the oil was just changed. In the first two years I only drove 2500 miles but I had the oil changed because oil gets old and breaks down. If I was going by mileage I still have another couple thousand miles to go, LOL. Back before online gambling was made legal I was putting on a couple hundred miles a week going to local casinos. Thank God that's over. I actually stopped driving very much after covid in 2020 because all the casinos were closed.

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(snip!)

Do you have any problems with fuel going stale or turning to varnish?
I know it's less of a problem with fuel injectors than carburetors, but some concern is warranted on "seldom used" vehicles.
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"Gas that's more than two months old is generally OK to use with only minor decreases in performance. Gas that is older than a year can cause issues."

I have gas on the porch that I bought 2 years ago for the generator and it still runs it just fine.
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April 15th, 2024 at 12:58:39 PM permalink
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Wow, you drive less than I do.

How often do you leave your property? I probably leave mine twice a week on average.
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In the winter maybe twice a month. In the summer about once a week. Sometimes in the winter I go a whole month without going anywhere. When I bought this vehicle 3 years ago this month the oil was just changed. In the first two years I only drove 2500 miles but I had the oil changed because oil gets old and breaks down. If I was going by mileage I still have another couple thousand miles to go, LOL. Back before online gambling was made legal I was putting on a couple hundred miles a week going to local casinos. Thank God that's over. I actually stopped driving very much after covid in 2020 because all the casinos were closed.

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(snip!)

Do you have any problems with fuel going stale or turning to varnish?
I know it's less of a problem with fuel injectors than carburetors, but some concern is warranted on "seldom used" vehicles.
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"Gas that's more than two months old is generally OK to use with only minor decreases in performance. Gas that is older than a year can cause issues."

I have gas on the porch that I bought 2 years ago for the generator and it still runs it just fine.
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Yeah, I'm stuck at the house for a few days and am getting sent on errands.
The leftover mower gas from last year got dumped in a car, and the can got filled with fresh 91 octane non-ethanol ($4.149/gal) because it's the only non-ethanol in the neighborhood and small carburetors don't like old ethanol.

Tough to say if stabilized cheap fuel or non-ethanol is a better deal. Nobody in the house is going to measure the stabilizer accurately, so the fuel will get expensively over-treated. Just buying the expensive fuel is probably fine, for the $12/year or so that the mower drinks.
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