Miscellaneous Discussion Thread II
Quote: lilredroosterQuote: billryanMost people I know who fish practice catch and release.
how does a fish feel when he has a metal hook driven into his mouth and he is then released_______?
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I don't talk to a lot of fish, but my guess is "better".
Quote: DieterQuote: lilredroosterQuote: billryanMost people I know who fish practice catch and release.
how does a fish feel when he has a metal hook driven into his mouth and he is then released_______?
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I don't talk to a lot of fish, but my guess is "better".
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maybe they feel better than being dead - if they have a concept of death - I would guess they have some instinct about it
but other than that, not good
from Google:
"AI Overview
Yes, scientific evidence suggests that fish feel pain.
Evidence:
Nociceptor neurons:
Fish have specialized nerve cells called nociceptors, which detect and transmit pain signals to the brain. "
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: billryanMost people I know who fish practice catch and release.
how does a fish feel when he has a metal hook driven into his mouth and he is then released_______?
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At a minimum, I would think he will feel better than if he weren't released. I'm not into fishing and have no opinion on if catch and release is better than catch and eat. I do believe in eating what I kill, and I don't kill for sport or entertainment.
Quote: lilredroosterQuote: DieterQuote: lilredroosterQuote: billryanMost people I know who fish practice catch and release.
how does a fish feel when he has a metal hook driven into his mouth and he is then released_______?
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I don't talk to a lot of fish, but my guess is "better".
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maybe they feel better than being dead - if they have a concept of death - I would guess they have some instinct about it
but other than that, not good
from Google:
"AI Overview
Yes, scientific evidence suggests that fish feel pain.
Evidence:
Nociceptor neurons:
Fish have specialized nerve cells called nociceptors, which detect and transmit pain signals to the brain. "
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I am perhaps projecting my own feelings.
I feel better after I remove a splinter.
I expect a hook being removed is a similar relief.
Quote: billryanQuote: lilredroosterQuote: billryanMost people I know who fish practice catch and release.
how does a fish feel when he has a metal hook driven into his mouth and he is then released_______?
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At a minimum, I would think he will feel better than if he weren't released. I'm not into fishing and have no opinion on if catch and release is better than catch and eat. I do believe in eating what I kill, and I don't kill for sport or entertainment.
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I have a great line to get rid of hookers and straight hustle girls I encounter in casinos:
"So what's your name?"
"Monkey. But everyone calls me Cat."
"Oh? Why Cat? Because of your beautiful hair and green eyes?"
"Because I kill for pleasure."
Regarding fish, they do not have brains capable of processing sensory information to any degree beyond physically reacting to it. Robots do the same thing and it is possible to program a robotic fish to react to stimuli the same way as a real fish, but that does not mean the robot experiences suffering.
That said, the fact that we concern ourselves with animal suffering is testimony to the greatness of humanity. Almost all of the fish we eat, eat other fish (including their own offspring) in ways more savage than what a fisherman does, and they do not (actually, can not) care. Thus I am sympathetic towards a person who does not want me to catch a fish, as he is just expressing his humanity in a way a little different than I would.
It leads to a question posed a few times by science fiction- would you torture a robot? How is torturing a robot different than dismantling a car, or eating a cake? None of them cause suffering, but the act of torturing a robot, getting gratification from the methods of torture and the appearance of torture on an object fashioned to represent a human, defiles me. So I would not do it. This has come up in current events with the availability of sex dolls, or sex robots designed to represent children. To do this is absolutely nothing like abusing a child, as it does not cause suffering. But to want to use or possess such a device pollutes one to such a degree that it seems justifiable to treat that person as a diseased pariah.
*Potentially*, also, is just a trolling element in a person coming out, since it is a social convention to leave other people to their own consciences when it comes to eating meat or fish. It in fact takes some kind of real jerk to suggest that people who harvest their own are bad people compared to those who stuff themselves but don't even contemplate where the meat and fish they eat comes from.
Many, many do not follow that social convention of not criticizing. To those who do it about wildlife harvesting I like to point out that these creatures do not get to die of old age ... and are often spared a terrible end to life when a hunter or fisherman takes one
Red Ants and Black ants are natural enemies, but often live side by side. They have different diets and generally leave each other alone until something happens and sets off the red ants. Black ants seemingly don't start trouble, but once threatened, they react in wave attacks that often overwhelm the stronger red ants. Once they go to war, they fight to the death.
Put 100 of each in a bottle with sufficient food, and the two will live side by side.
If you pick up the bottle and start shaking it, the red ants will feel threatened and assume the black ants are attacking them. Once the red ants attack, the black ants respond, and the two species will fight to the last ant while the real enemy goes unseen.
Before deciding who to fight or hate, make sure you know who is shaking the bottle.
Quote: billryanI found this on the internet and if it isn't true, it should be.
Red Ants and Black ants are natural enemies, but often live side by side. They have different diets and generally leave each other alone until something happens and sets off the red ants. Black ants seemingly don't start trouble, but once threatened, they react in wave attacks that often overwhelm the stronger red ants. Once they go to war, they fight to the death.
Put 100 of each in a bottle with sufficient food, and the two will live side by side.
If you pick up the bottle and start shaking it, the red ants will feel threatened and assume the black ants are attacking them. Once the red ants attack, the black ants respond, and the two species will fight to the last ant while the real enemy goes unseen.
Before deciding who to fight or hate, make sure you know who is shaking the bottle.
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Horror of Slave Ants!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsbe1pD8ocE
Quote: rxwineThis site is really lagging for me today. I guess that’s better than it not being accessible.
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Same. It's like the speed got throttled to DSL speed or something.
Quote: ChumpChangeQuote: rxwineThis site is really lagging for me today. I guess that’s better than it not being accessible.
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Same. It's like the speed got throttled to DSL speed or something.
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I just assumed it was my lousy connection today, so I didn't make any inquiries.
Playing $.05 Target Lock keno today killing time while wife pushing buttons.
Hit 4 out 4 numbers 3 out of 4 draws. According to Google AI 1 in 11.6 million occurrence.
Per Forrest Gump “ Sh@t Happens”.
FYI - won 24 credit (3x) so not life changing 😂
Quote: DieterQuote: ChumpChangeQuote: rxwineThis site is really lagging for me today. I guess that’s better than it not being accessible.
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Same. It's like the speed got throttled to DSL speed or something.
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I just assumed it was my lousy connection today, so I didn't make any inquiries.
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I am told the issue has been corrected.
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Horror of Slave Ants!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsbe1pD8ocE
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Pretty good. I didn't finish it, so I don't know if it goes into where ants came from. You might imagine ants were the beginning, and wasps came from ants, but it's the other way around,
Quote: google AIants did evolve from an ancient wasp ancestor. Ants are a lineage within the stinging wasps, and modern scientific studies, including those using phylogenomic analysis, have confirmed that ants are more closely related to bees and apoid wasps than to other wasps. The transition from wasp to ant involved the loss of wings and adaptation to life on the forest floor, leading to the diversification of ant species and their ecological dominance in many ecosystems
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Horror of Slave Ants!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsbe1pD8ocE
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Pretty good. I didn't finish it, so I don't know if it goes into where ants came from. You might imagine ants were the beginning, and wasps came from ants, but it's the other way around,Quote: google AIants did evolve from an ancient wasp ancestor. Ants are a lineage within the stinging wasps, and modern scientific studies, including those using phylogenomic analysis, have confirmed that ants are more closely related to bees and apoid wasps than to other wasps. The transition from wasp to ant involved the loss of wings and adaptation to life on the forest floor, leading to the diversification of ant species and their ecological dominance in many ecosystems
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I first heard of ants enslaving ants when I was in pest control and we had a guy who liked collecting and studying bugs. I am talking college-professor level. He told us about some African Army Ant that did this, but until the video I did not know there were several species that enslaved other ants.
politics in Mexico can get rough________________(this is not a political post)
in the vid they push, shove and hit each other
on guy got knocked to the ground
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If a player ended the game with one peg remaining, it called him a genius, and people who left two pegs were called pretty smart. Leave three pegs, and you could consider yourself dumb; leaving four pegs gets you labeled an ignoramus.
The new game suggests that there is no reason to feel bad if you leave three or more pegs, and to try again.
A company that isn't willing to insult two-thirds of its customers is a company that will continue not to get any of my ill-earned dollars.
Quote: billryanCracker Barrel is at it again. The beleaguered company has decided to mess with its cherished peg game, one that has entertained generations of its loyal customers.
If a player ended the game with one peg remaining, it called him a genius, and people who left two pegs were called pretty smart. Leave three pegs, and you could consider yourself dumb; leaving four pegs gets you labeled an ignoramus.
The new game suggests that there is no reason to feel bad if you leave three or more pegs, and to try again.
A company that isn't willing to insult two-thirds of its customers is a company that will continue not to get any of my ill-earned dollars.
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If a person feels insulted at what is clearly a joke on a game there to let them kill time they really need to question their ability to manage their life.
Quote: billryanCracker Barrel is at it again. The beleaguered company has decided to mess with its cherished peg game, one that has entertained generations of its loyal customers.
If a player ended the game with one peg remaining, it called him a genius, and people who left two pegs were called pretty smart. Leave three pegs, and you could consider yourself dumb; leaving four pegs gets you labeled an ignoramus.
The new game suggests that there is no reason to feel bad if you leave three or more pegs, and to try again.
A company that isn't willing to insult two-thirds of its customers is a company that will continue not to get any of my ill-earned dollars.
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I'm not convinced that logo reversion wasn't a plan from the outset.
A particularly savvy marketer could plan to roll out New Cracker Barrel, wait for resounding complaints, then issue apologies and relaunch the soon to be more loved than ever Cracker Barrel Classic.
That high-ranking officials think they should weigh in on such subjects is bizarre.
Quote: DieterQuote: billryanCracker Barrel is at it again. The beleaguered company has decided to mess with its cherished peg game, one that has entertained generations of its loyal customers.
If a player ended the game with one peg remaining, it called him a genius, and people who left two pegs were called pretty smart. Leave three pegs, and you could consider yourself dumb; leaving four pegs gets you labeled an ignoramus.
The new game suggests that there is no reason to feel bad if you leave three or more pegs, and to try again.
A company that isn't willing to insult two-thirds of its customers is a company that will continue not to get any of my ill-earned dollars.
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I'm not convinced that logo reversion wasn't a plan from the outset.
A particularly savvy marketer could plan to roll out New Cracker Barrel, wait for resounding complaints, then issue apologies and relaunch the soon to be more loved than ever Cracker Barrel Classic.
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My problem with the new logo is there was no actual "barrel" in the "cracker barrel" logo.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: DieterQuote: billryanCracker Barrel is at it again. The beleaguered company has decided to mess with its cherished peg game, one that has entertained generations of its loyal customers.
If a player ended the game with one peg remaining, it called him a genius, and people who left two pegs were called pretty smart. Leave three pegs, and you could consider yourself dumb; leaving four pegs gets you labeled an ignoramus.
The new game suggests that there is no reason to feel bad if you leave three or more pegs, and to try again.
A company that isn't willing to insult two-thirds of its customers is a company that will continue not to get any of my ill-earned dollars.
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I'm not convinced that logo reversion wasn't a plan from the outset.
A particularly savvy marketer could plan to roll out New Cracker Barrel, wait for resounding complaints, then issue apologies and relaunch the soon to be more loved than ever Cracker Barrel Classic.
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My problem with the new logo is there was no actual "barrel" in the "cracker barrel" logo.
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If your plan is to reinstate the tradtional logo, you don't need to make a good new logo.
Quote: DieterQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: DieterQuote: billryanCracker Barrel is at it again. The beleaguered company has decided to mess with its cherished peg game, one that has entertained generations of its loyal customers.
If a player ended the game with one peg remaining, it called him a genius, and people who left two pegs were called pretty smart. Leave three pegs, and you could consider yourself dumb; leaving four pegs gets you labeled an ignoramus.
The new game suggests that there is no reason to feel bad if you leave three or more pegs, and to try again.
A company that isn't willing to insult two-thirds of its customers is a company that will continue not to get any of my ill-earned dollars.
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I'm not convinced that logo reversion wasn't a plan from the outset.
A particularly savvy marketer could plan to roll out New Cracker Barrel, wait for resounding complaints, then issue apologies and relaunch the soon to be more loved than ever Cracker Barrel Classic.
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My problem with the new logo is there was no actual "barrel" in the "cracker barrel" logo.
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If your plan is to reinstate the tradtional logo, you don't need to make a good new logo.
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Suppose the plan was to alienate a bunch of your customers and lose a hundred million dollars in market value, only to revert to the original logo. In that case, they must be playing inter-dimensional chess while we are playing Chinese checkers. Donating a million meals for our homeless vets would have cost less and generated better publicity.
Well, they got the blood, bloodbath.
Quote: TankoPick a card. Any card.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1264896128462882
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I really hope that did not fool you. All of the cards shown are different than the original cards.
I saw it a little differently: with both the logo redesign and the interior redesign (which I don't believe they have backed away from) make it more like a generic, mass produced fast food place, and I thought they were looking for a buyer. YUM or one of the other fast food giants that could buy them out and fit it into the rest of their fast food business more readily if the restaurants are already laid out and staffed like a fast food place.
I guess trashing their stock price is another way to get a buyer, all right, but not the way they planned.
Quote: billryanQuote: DieterQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: DieterQuote: billryanCracker Barrel is at it again. The beleaguered company has decided to mess with its cherished peg game, one that has entertained generations of its loyal customers.
If a player ended the game with one peg remaining, it called him a genius, and people who left two pegs were called pretty smart. Leave three pegs, and you could consider yourself dumb; leaving four pegs gets you labeled an ignoramus.
The new game suggests that there is no reason to feel bad if you leave three or more pegs, and to try again.
A company that isn't willing to insult two-thirds of its customers is a company that will continue not to get any of my ill-earned dollars.
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I'm not convinced that logo reversion wasn't a plan from the outset.
A particularly savvy marketer could plan to roll out New Cracker Barrel, wait for resounding complaints, then issue apologies and relaunch the soon to be more loved than ever Cracker Barrel Classic.
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My problem with the new logo is there was no actual "barrel" in the "cracker barrel" logo.
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If your plan is to reinstate the tradtional logo, you don't need to make a good new logo.
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Suppose the plan was to alienate a bunch of your customers and lose a hundred million dollars in market value, only to revert to the original logo. In that case, they must be playing inter-dimensional chess while we are playing Chinese checkers. Donating a million meals for our homeless vets would have cost less and generated better publicity.
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Losing equity value doesn’t actually cost a company anything.
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Losing equity value doesn’t actually cost a company anything.
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Not true Almost all companies are holding un issued stock as an asset that has just depreciated. It is also a lost opportunity cost of being able to borrow or leverage more. It may not cost them present value dollars, but there is definitely a cost.
Cracker Barrell much younger than McDonalds.
Quote: unJonQuote: billryanQuote: DieterQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: DieterQuote: billryanCracker Barrel is at it again. The beleaguered company has decided to mess with its cherished peg game, one that has entertained generations of its loyal customers.
If a player ended the game with one peg remaining, it called him a genius, and people who left two pegs were called pretty smart. Leave three pegs, and you could consider yourself dumb; leaving four pegs gets you labeled an ignoramus.
The new game suggests that there is no reason to feel bad if you leave three or more pegs, and to try again.
A company that isn't willing to insult two-thirds of its customers is a company that will continue not to get any of my ill-earned dollars.
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I'm not convinced that logo reversion wasn't a plan from the outset.
A particularly savvy marketer could plan to roll out New Cracker Barrel, wait for resounding complaints, then issue apologies and relaunch the soon to be more loved than ever Cracker Barrel Classic.
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My problem with the new logo is there was no actual "barrel" in the "cracker barrel" logo.
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If your plan is to reinstate the tradtional logo, you don't need to make a good new logo.
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Suppose the plan was to alienate a bunch of your customers and lose a hundred million dollars in market value, only to revert to the original logo. In that case, they must be playing inter-dimensional chess while we are playing Chinese checkers. Donating a million meals for our homeless vets would have cost less and generated better publicity.
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Losing equity value doesn’t actually cost a company anything.
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Sure, tell that to the Board that has to defend their salaries, not to mention their bosses-the shareholders. Explain to them how the loss isn't real and the company is as good as it ever was.
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Sure, tell that to the Board that has to defend their salaries, not to mention their bosses-the shareholders. Explain to them how the loss isn't real and the company is as good as it ever was.
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Our goal with this rebranding was to build long term brand equity through enhanced customer engagement. We expected to face challenges as the public had a chance to fall in love with our new look. What we got instead was a resounding endorsement of our traditional branding both from our existing loyal customer base, and nontraditional diner demographics who are newly discovering our brand. I am excited to have learned not what we wanted to hear, but what we needed to know to continue to thrive in the modern restaurant ecosystem.
Just spitballin'. Anyone on the next investor call?
Quote:Coca-Cola conducted extensive blind taste tests involving hundreds of thousands of consumers, which showed that the new formula was preferred over the original Coke and Pepsi. However, these tests failed to account for consumers' deep emotional attachment to the classic Coca-Cola brand, which led to significant backlash and the eventual discontinuation of New Coke and the reintroduction of the original formula as Coca-Cola Classic
Quote: rxwineEmotional attachment is a strong force to deal with.
Quote:Coca-Cola conducted extensive blind taste tests involving hundreds of thousands of consumers, which showed that the new formula was preferred over the original Coke and Pepsi. However, these tests failed to account for consumers' deep emotional attachment to the classic Coca-Cola brand, which led to significant backlash and the eventual discontinuation of New Coke and the reintroduction of the original formula as Coca-Cola Classic
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Like they didn't know that already? Why did they spend all that money creating and promoting the brand in the first place?
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Sure, tell that to the Board that has to defend their salaries, not to mention their bosses-the shareholders. Explain to them how the loss isn't real and the company is as good as it ever was.
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Our goal with this rebranding was to build long term brand equity through enhanced customer engagement. We expected to face challenges as the public had a chance to fall in love with our new look. What we got instead was a resounding endorsement of our traditional branding both from our existing loyal customer base, and nontraditional diner demographics who are newly discovering our brand. I am excited to have learned not what we wanted to hear, but what we needed to know to continue to thrive in the modern restaurant ecosystem.
Just spitballin'. Anyone on the next investor call?
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If you wrote that you might have a career in corporate gobbledygook. Sounds exactly like what a CEO in failure would say! Well done
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: rxwineEmotional attachment is a strong force to deal with.
Quote:Coca-Cola conducted extensive blind taste tests involving hundreds of thousands of consumers, which showed that the new formula was preferred over the original Coke and Pepsi. However, these tests failed to account for consumers' deep emotional attachment to the classic Coca-Cola brand, which led to significant backlash and the eventual discontinuation of New Coke and the reintroduction of the original formula as Coca-Cola Classic
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Like they didn't know that already? Why did they spend all that money creating and promoting the brand in the first place?
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I wonder how many people could tell you stories how someone where they worked changed something that was already working?
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DieterQuote: billryan
Sure, tell that to the Board that has to defend their salaries, not to mention their bosses-the shareholders. Explain to them how the loss isn't real and the company is as good as it ever was.
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Our goal with this rebranding was to build long term brand equity through enhanced customer engagement. We expected to face challenges as the public had a chance to fall in love with our new look. What we got instead was a resounding endorsement of our traditional branding both from our existing loyal customer base, and nontraditional diner demographics who are newly discovering our brand. I am excited to have learned not what we wanted to hear, but what we needed to know to continue to thrive in the modern restaurant ecosystem.
Just spitballin'. Anyone on the next investor call?
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If you wrote that you might have a career in corporate gobbledygook. Sounds exactly like what a CEO in failure would say! Well done
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Why would you want to hire a failed CEO? Pissing off customers and then not having faith in your vision to weather a storm doesn't make for a strong candidate.
Quote: rxwineQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: rxwineEmotional attachment is a strong force to deal with.
Quote:Coca-Cola conducted extensive blind taste tests involving hundreds of thousands of consumers, which showed that the new formula was preferred over the original Coke and Pepsi. However, these tests failed to account for consumers' deep emotional attachment to the classic Coca-Cola brand, which led to significant backlash and the eventual discontinuation of New Coke and the reintroduction of the original formula as Coca-Cola Classic
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Like they didn't know that already? Why did they spend all that money creating and promoting the brand in the first place?
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I wonder how many people could tell you stories how someone where they worked changed something that was already working?
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Coke wasn't working. Pepsi was closing the gap, especially with younger drinkers who associated Coke with their grandparents.
The Pepsi Challenge and Michael Jackson's ad campaigns were huge. In NY, Pepsi had a patrol that awarded nice prizes to random people at events who were drinking Pepsi. They even offered a Harrier Jet as a prize in a promotion. By many industry standards, Pepsi was the #1 soda company for a few years mid 1980s. They made some smart acquisitions and broadened their market, but then they bought Quaker Oats, and I don't think they ever recovered. They spun off Yum at just the wrong time, and once freed of Pepsi management, the Yum brands soared.
Coca-Cola had a diet soda- Tab that tasted good and did well in survey groups, but wasn't selling. They decided to reformulate Tab using regular sweetners and thought it was worthy of being New Coke.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DieterQuote: billryan
Sure, tell that to the Board that has to defend their salaries, not to mention their bosses-the shareholders. Explain to them how the loss isn't real and the company is as good as it ever was.
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Our goal with this rebranding was to build long term brand equity through enhanced customer engagement. We expected to face challenges as the public had a chance to fall in love with our new look. What we got instead was a resounding endorsement of our traditional branding both from our existing loyal customer base, and nontraditional diner demographics who are newly discovering our brand. I am excited to have learned not what we wanted to hear, but what we needed to know to continue to thrive in the modern restaurant ecosystem.
Just spitballin'. Anyone on the next investor call?
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If you wrote that you might have a career in corporate gobbledygook. Sounds exactly like what a CEO in failure would say! Well done
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I wrote it.
There was a time when I didn't sweep floors.
Quote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: DieterQuote: billryan
Sure, tell that to the Board that has to defend their salaries, not to mention their bosses-the shareholders. Explain to them how the loss isn't real and the company is as good as it ever was.
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Our goal with this rebranding was to build long term brand equity through enhanced customer engagement. We expected to face challenges as the public had a chance to fall in love with our new look. What we got instead was a resounding endorsement of our traditional branding both from our existing loyal customer base, and nontraditional diner demographics who are newly discovering our brand. I am excited to have learned not what we wanted to hear, but what we needed to know to continue to thrive in the modern restaurant ecosystem.
Just spitballin'. Anyone on the next investor call?
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If you wrote that you might have a career in corporate gobbledygook. Sounds exactly like what a CEO in failure would say! Well done
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Why would you want to hire a failed CEO? Pissing off customers and then not having faith in your vision to weather a storm doesn't make for a strong candidate.
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Failed CEOs often get rehired for some reason. The current one at CB seems to have fallen into the "I want to be transformative" trap. CEO pr POTUS, you can only be "transformative" if the situation calls for it Teddy Roosevelt was a transformative POTUS because the time was there, the USA had grown from a developing to developed nation post-1865. He was there to make it happen. Lee Iacocca transfromed Chrysler because it was at death's door. CB was not, instead it is as if the CEO took a job at a place she was ashamed to work at.
Quote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: DieterQuote: billryan
Sure, tell that to the Board that has to defend their salaries, not to mention their bosses-the shareholders. Explain to them how the loss isn't real and the company is as good as it ever was.
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Our goal with this rebranding was to build long term brand equity through enhanced customer engagement. We expected to face challenges as the public had a chance to fall in love with our new look. What we got instead was a resounding endorsement of our traditional branding both from our existing loyal customer base, and nontraditional diner demographics who are newly discovering our brand. I am excited to have learned not what we wanted to hear, but what we needed to know to continue to thrive in the modern restaurant ecosystem.
Just spitballin'. Anyone on the next investor call?
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If you wrote that you might have a career in corporate gobbledygook. Sounds exactly like what a CEO in failure would say! Well done
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Why would you want to hire a failed CEO? Pissing off customers and then not having faith in your vision to weather a storm doesn't make for a strong candidate.
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I think the talented spinners do better as consultants and coaches, suggesting how an executive can best weather a colossal foulup transition into the next successful chapter.
Quote: DieterQuote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: DieterQuote: billryan
Sure, tell that to the Board that has to defend their salaries, not to mention their bosses-the shareholders. Explain to them how the loss isn't real and the company is as good as it ever was.
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Our goal with this rebranding was to build long term brand equity through enhanced customer engagement. We expected to face challenges as the public had a chance to fall in love with our new look. What we got instead was a resounding endorsement of our traditional branding both from our existing loyal customer base, and nontraditional diner demographics who are newly discovering our brand. I am excited to have learned not what we wanted to hear, but what we needed to know to continue to thrive in the modern restaurant ecosystem.
Just spitballin'. Anyone on the next investor call?
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If you wrote that you might have a career in corporate gobbledygook. Sounds exactly like what a CEO in failure would say! Well done
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Why would you want to hire a failed CEO? Pissing off customers and then not having faith in your vision to weather a storm doesn't make for a strong candidate.
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I think the talented spinners do better as consultants and coaches, suggesting how an executive can best weather a colossal foulup transition into the next successful chapter.
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I don't care much for consultants except for narrow use. I worked at a place with five divisions and some consultant said they should cross-train techs to do 2-3 of them so they could "do it all in one trip." Pure B-School plan. Ignored that they were all very different businesses with little crossover. Another one said a couple smart things but they were sacred cows that management would never change.
For more narrow things, though, somewhat. A quality control system for manufacturing then, yeah. IT systems, absolutely. Telling a restaurant to redecorate because the peg games might be "offensive?" Useless/
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DieterQuote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: DieterQuote: billryan
Sure, tell that to the Board that has to defend their salaries, not to mention their bosses-the shareholders. Explain to them how the loss isn't real and the company is as good as it ever was.
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Our goal with this rebranding was to build long term brand equity through enhanced customer engagement. We expected to face challenges as the public had a chance to fall in love with our new look. What we got instead was a resounding endorsement of our traditional branding both from our existing loyal customer base, and nontraditional diner demographics who are newly discovering our brand. I am excited to have learned not what we wanted to hear, but what we needed to know to continue to thrive in the modern restaurant ecosystem.
Just spitballin'. Anyone on the next investor call?
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If you wrote that you might have a career in corporate gobbledygook. Sounds exactly like what a CEO in failure would say! Well done
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Why would you want to hire a failed CEO? Pissing off customers and then not having faith in your vision to weather a storm doesn't make for a strong candidate.
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I think the talented spinners do better as consultants and coaches, suggesting how an executive can best weather a colossal foulup transition into the next successful chapter.
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I don't care much for consultants except for narrow use. I worked at a place with five divisions and some consultant said they should cross-train techs to do 2-3 of them so they could "do it all in one trip." Pure B-School plan. Ignored that they were all very different businesses with little crossover. Another one said a couple smart things but they were sacred cows that management would never change.
For more narrow things, though, somewhat. A quality control system for manufacturing then, yeah. IT systems, absolutely. Telling a restaurant to redecorate because the peg games might be "offensive?" Useless/
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You're either hiring a sycophant or a scapegoat.
Consultants are almost never saviors, or they'd be on permanent staff.
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Sure, tell that to the Board that has to defend their salaries, not to mention their bosses-the shareholders. Explain to them how the loss isn't real and the company is as good as it ever was.
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Our goal with this rebranding was to build long term brand equity through enhanced customer engagement. We expected to face challenges as the public had a chance to fall in love with our new look. What we got instead was a resounding endorsement of our traditional branding both from our existing loyal customer base, and nontraditional diner demographics who are newly discovering our brand. I am excited to have learned not what we wanted to hear, but what we needed to know to continue to thrive in the modern restaurant ecosystem.
Just spitballin'. Anyone on the next investor call?
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If you wrote that you might have a career in corporate gobbledygook. Sounds exactly like what a CEO in failure would say! Well done
link to original post
Why would you want to hire a failed CEO? Pissing off customers and then not having faith in your vision to weather a storm doesn't make for a strong candidate.
link to original post
I think the talented spinners do better as consultants and coaches, suggesting how an executive can best weather a colossal foulup transition into the next successful chapter.
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I don't care much for consultants except for narrow use. I worked at a place with five divisions and some consultant said they should cross-train techs to do 2-3 of them so they could "do it all in one trip." Pure B-School plan. Ignored that they were all very different businesses with little crossover. Another one said a couple smart things but they were sacred cows that management would never change.
For more narrow things, though, somewhat. A quality control system for manufacturing then, yeah. IT systems, absolutely. Telling a restaurant to redecorate because the peg games might be "offensive?" Useless/
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You're either hiring a sycophant or a scapegoat.
Consultants are almost never saviors, or they'd be on permanent staff.
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For a savior you hire a manager or a CEO, not a consultant. I did a turnaround on a branch I managed once. But I was a manager, not a consultant. I was sort of a consultant on one job once, really was one when the place was sold. But that just meant I was smart enough to get certain things done. I didn't tell their guy how to do things, but I did get our people lined up with their HR. I did tell them about the little things that had to get done, for example the weird way health insurance worked with the union. To explaining that they had a deal for discounted work in exchange for free donuts. I knew this was all important even if small and that the GM had no time for smaller details.
You probably need 10-20 years on the job to "consult" beyond what I described above. Because you are consulting at places with many managers with 10-30 years on the job. That's why they rarely do as advertised.
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Sure, tell that to the Board that has to defend their salaries, not to mention their bosses-the shareholders. Explain to them how the loss isn't real and the company is as good as it ever was.
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Our goal with this rebranding was to build long term brand equity through enhanced customer engagement. We expected to face challenges as the public had a chance to fall in love with our new look. What we got instead was a resounding endorsement of our traditional branding both from our existing loyal customer base, and nontraditional diner demographics who are newly discovering our brand. I am excited to have learned not what we wanted to hear, but what we needed to know to continue to thrive in the modern restaurant ecosystem.
Just spitballin'. Anyone on the next investor call?
link to original post
If you wrote that you might have a career in corporate gobbledygook. Sounds exactly like what a CEO in failure would say! Well done
link to original post
Why would you want to hire a failed CEO? Pissing off customers and then not having faith in your vision to weather a storm doesn't make for a strong candidate.
link to original post
I think the talented spinners do better as consultants and coaches, suggesting how an executive can best weather a colossal foulup transition into the next successful chapter.
link to original post
I don't care much for consultants except for narrow use. I worked at a place with five divisions and some consultant said they should cross-train techs to do 2-3 of them so they could "do it all in one trip." Pure B-School plan. Ignored that they were all very different businesses with little crossover. Another one said a couple smart things but they were sacred cows that management would never change.
For more narrow things, though, somewhat. A quality control system for manufacturing then, yeah. IT systems, absolutely. Telling a restaurant to redecorate because the peg games might be "offensive?" Useless/
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You're either hiring a sycophant or a scapegoat.
Consultants are almost never saviors, or they'd be on permanent staff.
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I've worked in three fields- comic retailing, bar/nightclubs and auctions. In all three fields I met consultants that were great, and I met some who were okay but not worth their price.
Mel Thompson was the first national consultant to the comic industry and helped modernize it shop by shop. John Taffer is better known for his consulting than his bars, even though he had some legendary ones.
You get a committee, you get vision meetings, you get focus groups, you get iterative mediocrity.
They were quick to roll it back when it bombed, so they were at least that smart.
