lilredrooster
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August 27th, 2021 at 7:13:25 AM permalink
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my suggestion is that the Mods do a similar thing to what Twitter does when it finds a shaky tweet

they post a warning right on top of the post as seen in the image

it would require some new tech stuff I guess but not real tough I would think

the warning on top of such posts could say something like this:

"a betting system such as this may be fun but it cannot overcome the house advantage in the long run - the more you play, even if on different days or at different times, the more likely it becomes that your net loss will come close to what the house advantage indicates"

this way newbies will see a message from the Administrators of the site who represent themselves as experts
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"𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘷𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘧 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘳"______Edgar Allan Poe
Dieter
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lilredrooster
August 27th, 2021 at 7:29:30 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster



the warning on top of such posts could say something like this:

"a betting system such as this may be fun but it cannot overcome the house advantage in the long run - the more you play, even if on different days or at different times, the more likely it becomes that your net loss will come close to what the house advantage indicates"



How about
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All betting systems are worthless. However, for the mathematically challenged, here is a forum of your own.



or maybe
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Methods of varying bet size, based on previous wins and losses, not only can't overcome the house edge, they can't even dent it.

May the cards fall in your favor.
MDawg
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August 27th, 2021 at 7:45:13 AM permalink
People trying to save the internet, one post at a time, should concentrate on trying to win some money in casinos.

Then again, lilredrooster already revealed, I don't play anymore which is what I always suspected...that some of those who make the most comments, are apparently doing it solely from home.


In any case, this sort of thing is unworkable and places Moderators in the role of deciding who and what to stigmatize. Once such a label is attached, the poster is essentially stigmatized. Moderators are here to make sure we follow the Rules and such posts, including as described above, are not against the Rules.

I'd also think that the people who paid big money for this site like Zuga would not want disclaimers against gambling all over their forum, given that they have links to regular casinos encouraging people who land on this site to gamble, all over the pages.

And, as Mission146, a former moderator, and Wizard, have said,




The simple solution is one stated by the Wizard more than once in more than one way,
Quote: Wizard

To those who don't like it, let me make a radical suggestion -- don't read it.

Last edited by: MDawg on Aug 27, 2021
I tell you itís wonderful to be here, man. I donít give a damn who wins or loses. Itís just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
lilredrooster
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August 27th, 2021 at 8:08:20 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

People trying to save the internet, one post at a time, should concentrate on trying to win some money in casinos.

Then again, lilredrooster already revealed, I don't play anymore





I don't play blackjack anymore - I still bet - on sports and horses

I've made more than 350,000 bets on various blackjack tables in my past

I've vowed never to post my results again on any one bet or many bets because I don't want to be a member of the group of people who post their results because I suspect that a great many of the reports are not legitimate - and I don't want to be included in the group with them

I have enough money - I don't need to go into casinos which are IMO depressing and cutthroat places

my main target for earnings has always been in various markets

unlike you I don't crave and worship material goods such as watches

but if I wanted to - I could buy up a ton of expensive watches - a totally useless and worthless activity IMO



and why would you presume to speak for Zuga
there is absolutely no doubt the man can speak for himself





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MDawg
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August 27th, 2021 at 8:17:33 AM permalink
All right then I stand corrected as to that you don't play anymore, which is why I said "apparently" doing it solely from home.

I tell you itís wonderful to be here, man. I donít give a damn who wins or loses. Itís just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
MrV
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August 27th, 2021 at 8:50:53 AM permalink
How about a warning saying "Fools and their money are soon parted, so DO THE MATH."
"What, me worry?"
lilredrooster
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August 27th, 2021 at 4:41:57 PM permalink
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interesting - to me anyway - to go back and read the Wizard's post from 2014 about the member gr8player who claimed to be a big bacc winner_____ here we go:


Quote: Wizard



your message is 180-degrees the opposite of mine. This forum was never meant to be a place to boast about a secret way to beat baccarat and laugh at conventional use of math to analyze casino games.

That said, it is indeed my wish that you resign your membership and take your ideas elsewhere.




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"𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘷𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘧 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘳"______Edgar Allan Poe
MDawg
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August 27th, 2021 at 4:57:43 PM permalink
Tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis.

But also, I believe that Gr8player was creating issues in other ways. I believe there was more to it than what you are implying that led to his leaving the forum.

I tell you itís wonderful to be here, man. I donít give a damn who wins or loses. Itís just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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August 27th, 2021 at 7:50:14 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis.



Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

And otherwise, yeah. I believe other pieces were in action; this may have simply been the camel's straw.
May the cards fall in your favor.
lilredrooster
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August 28th, 2021 at 3:20:01 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis.




Translation - "times are changing and we are changing in them"



Agreed - in our times mass amounts of information are published thru social media with no editing or fact checking

this forum - without controls - will soon IMO be dominated by progression and bet selection systems proponents

as I indicated earlier, TomG - a very valuable member, has dramatically reduced his time on this forum because of this

times change but one thing will never change - two plus two equals four

a member posting that he can overcome the HA in the long term with these systems or methods will never ever mean that he can actually do so

it only means that he can post a story about it


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"𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘷𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘧 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘳"______Edgar Allan Poe

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