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bobbartop
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August 10th, 2019 at 9:44:51 PM permalink
Taken off of suicide watch.

WHY?
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rxwine
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August 10th, 2019 at 10:08:24 PM permalink
If they followed an established protocol, then the only issue will be a review. If they didn't... then maybe there is something more interesting. At the very least, incompetence.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
EvenBob
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August 10th, 2019 at 10:54:35 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

Taken off of suicide watch.

WHY?



In the Godfather movie, all the police
guards at the hospital guarding the
shot Godfather were ordered down.
Why. They wanted the Godfather
killed. Epstein was taken off suicide
watch because Bill Clinton and the
other high power Dems wanted him
dead for obvious reasons.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
bobbartop
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August 10th, 2019 at 11:00:54 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

If they followed an established protocol, then the only issue will be a review. If they didn't... then maybe there is something more interesting. At the very least, incompetence.



On July 23 they found him semiconscious with marks on his neck. Thinking that it MIGHT have been a suicide attempt, they put him on watch 24/7. Then, remarkably, on the 29th, they took him OFF suicide watch and put him back in the special housing unit.

Let's put it this way. Who might be HAPPY that he's dead?
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bobbartop
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August 10th, 2019 at 11:05:00 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

In the Godfather movie, all the police
guards at the hospital guarding the
shot Godfather were ordered down.
Why. They wanted the Godfather
killed. Epstein was taken off suicide
watch because Bill Clinton and the
other high power Dems wanted him
dead for obvious reasons.



I'm not so sure the list of people who wanted him dead is confined to only democrats. I wouldn't say that at all.
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EvenBob
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August 10th, 2019 at 11:13:38 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

I'm not so sure the list of people who wanted him dead is confined to only democrats. I wouldn't say that at all.



Overwhelmingly, it is. Trump was smart
15 years ago in seeing what bad news
Epstein was. Now I'm reading that they
don't really know where all his money
came from. They can't find a client list
of his anywhere.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
rxwine
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August 10th, 2019 at 11:35:35 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

Let's put it this way. Who might be HAPPY that he's dead?



If Epstein hadn't squirreled away incriminating evidence long before he got picked up this time, it would make no difference anyway. Because with all that time in between he had plenty of time to plan for various eventualities. I'm pretty sure he didn't blackmail someone with an agreement to kill him as part of his protection plan.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
bobbartop
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August 10th, 2019 at 11:36:28 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Overwhelmingly, it is. Trump was smart
15 years ago in seeing what bad news
Epstein was. Now I'm reading that they
don't really know where all his money
came from. They can't find a client list
of his anywhere.




I will give you "overwhelmingly", but there is certainly such a thing as a pervert with an R by his name. The fact is, there's got to be hundreds of powerful perverts who are now breathing a sigh of relief.

I would say that if we suddenly see Fake News start driving at how certain they are that it was suicide and that anyone who questions the story is a "conspiracy theorist", then I will be convinced that it was NOT suicide.
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bobbartop
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August 10th, 2019 at 11:39:56 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

If Epstein hadn't squirreled away incriminating evidence long before he got picked up this time, it would make no difference anyway. Because with all that time in between he had plenty of time to plan for various eventualities. I'm pretty sure he didn't blackmail someone with an agreement to kill him as part of his protection plan.




Even if he DID kill himself, why the decision to take him off suicide watch? Who reviewed or examined him and CLEARED him? It stinks.
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Rigondeaux
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August 10th, 2019 at 11:53:12 PM permalink
I think it was Godfather 2, as I said on the other thread. Obviously, just a pure guess. He was strongly encouraged to off himself.

It is worth pointing out, however, that these high profile psychopaths kill themselves all the time when they are caught. Aaron Hernandez, Isreal Keys, Harold Shipman, Teddy K (attempted), and others.

I am guessing again, but perhaps they see human life as having no real value except as a source of gratification and that extends to themselves. When the party is over, they have the capacity to just turn out the lights.

It remains extremely fishy that he would be left unmonitored with the tools for the job when everybody has been predicting that this would happen all over the place, AND he already had one supposed suicide attempted.

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