What did you eat today?

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Culver's has walleye on the menu, which evidently means a lot to a certain sector.
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Around the home of Culver's, walleye is considered the premium fish fry offering.
Cod and perch are "okay".
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Having grown up on Lake Erie, I have eaten hundreds of pounds of Lake Perch and Walleye. I love them both but prefer Perch.
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There is a restaurant that's been here locally for about 80 years and they used to sell nothing but deep fried perch. When I was in high school we would go there and you could get a pound of perch for like 99 cents and I would also get a pound of breaded deep fried mushrooms. This is over 60 years ago and the line would always be out the door. It was just on the outskirts of the ghetto section in town and today it's smack dab in the middle of that section so I wouldn't dare go there. But that perch was melt in your mouth good. It was the only kind of fried fish they sold because it's all anybody wanted.

There was a restaurant in a small town near me from the 1930s till about 2010 and all they sold was pulled pork, mashed potatoes and gravy and giant blueberry muffins the size of a softball. That was the entire menu. They were open Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday and summer and winter there was a 45 minute wait to get in. You don't see that anymore restaurants serving just one or two main items but doing it really well and giving you a lot of food. The pulled pork and mashed potatoes and gravy came on a platter and you couldn't eat the entire serving you had to take it home.

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Culver's has walleye on the menu, which evidently means a lot to a certain sector.
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Around the home of Culver's, walleye is considered the premium fish fry offering.
Cod and perch are "okay".
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Having grown up on Lake Erie, I have eaten hundreds of pounds of Lake Perch and Walleye. I love them both but prefer Perch.
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Very interesting. My cousin grew up literally on the shore of Lake Michigan (back yard boat dock close); he also prefers perch.

A few hours inland, taste seems to differ.

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My Doctor, who didn't get his "knowledge" from the internet, tells me that a 3,000-calorie-a-day diet will allow me to lose 5-10 pounds a month while staying healthy. I'm going to jump out on a ledge and assume he knows more about the subject than the usual village loudmouth.
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3 day suspension for a personal insult. See bolded text above, for which I added the bolding. Please remember that making insulting comments about the character, temperament or behavior of other forum members is against the forum rules.

googled:

"According to the American Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, morbidly obese individuals should consume 22 calories for every kilogram they weigh. At 300lbs (136kg), [a person] needs about 2,992 calories daily based on the recommendation."

I saw a video on Reddit of a morbidly obese person who couldn't get out of bed he was so big. His meal was clearly being shown as something disgustingly monstrous in amount of calories... but I could tell he was being put under care by dieticians, by the way they were dressed. I didn't finish the video since they weren't explaining this, the poster just wanted to show something revolting. The dieticians were well on their way to maybe 4-5000 calories when I stopped watching

I take it you would endanger someone like that on 2500 calories, say

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googled:

"According to the American Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, morbidly obese individuals should consume 22 calories for every kilogram they weigh. At 300lbs (136kg), [a person] needs about 2,992 calories daily based on the recommendation."

I saw a video on Reddit of a morbidly obese person who couldn't get out of bed he was so big. His meal was clearly being shown as something disgustingly monstrous in amount of calories... but I could tell he was being put under care by dieticians, by the way they were dressed. I didn't finish the video since they weren't explaining this, the poster just wanted to show something revolting. The dieticians were well on their way to maybe 4-5000 calories when I stopped watching

I take it you would endanger someone like that on 2500 calories, say
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"22 calories for every kilogram they weigh" is exactly 10 calories for every pound they weigh, which sounds like a very round number. I doubt this is linear over a wide range.

So if a patient weighing 1,100 pounds is admitted to a hospital because of gross obesity, I imagine they are going to put him on intravenous feed and perhaps feed him some fibrous solid food. I doubt thy are going to have him eat 11,000 calories a day of hospital food, lol.

Many people advocate fasting for 24-36 hours (zero calories per day) every 7 -14 days. Does this endanger anyone?

11,000 calories is sumo athlete intake levels.
At least chanko-nabe is reasonably healthy.

Fasting isn't for everyone, but I seem to feel a lot better after a fast day. My doctors insist I need daily intake.

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googled:

"According to the American Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, morbidly obese individuals should consume 22 calories for every kilogram they weigh. At 300lbs (136kg), [a person] needs about 2,992 calories daily based on the recommendation."

I saw a video on Reddit of a morbidly obese person who couldn't get out of bed he was so big. His meal was clearly being shown as something disgustingly monstrous in amount of calories... but I could tell he was being put under care by dieticians, by the way they were dressed. I didn't finish the video since they weren't explaining this, the poster just wanted to show something revolting. The dieticians were well on their way to maybe 4-5000 calories when I stopped watching

I take it you would endanger someone like that on 2500 calories, say
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It sure would endanger him, and specifically because he is bedridden. That means his muscles are already trashed, his bones have released calcium which may be overrepresented in the arteries, and the catabolism caused by extreme (to him) dieting will surely put him into heart failure.

It's a terrible state to get in to and it's just as bad getting out of it. Evolution has no answer for it because once an animal becomes immobilized it is permanently out of the gene pool in a day or so in the wild. Better to never let it happen to begin with. Strive to die exercising and be found dead by a jogger! It won't hurt, you don't feel pain in a fight. That's what "rage, rage against the dying of the light" was all about.

We had a prayer breakfast at the local Denny's, and to many people's amazement, it was quite good. There were almost 60 of us, and we could only order from a limited menu, but for $7.79 per person, the food was good, the service was quick, and the overall experience was nice. My last trip to Denny's was quite the opposite.

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We had a prayer breakfast at the local Denny's, and to many people's amazement, it was quite good. There were almost 60 of us, and we could only order from a limited menu, but for $7.79 per person, the food was good, the service was quick, and the overall experience was nice. My last trip to Denny's was quite the opposite.
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Hopefully a prayer for the intercession of St. Benedict, patron saint of those suffering from food poisoning.

Today I made fresh tagliatelle and chicken parm. This is in honor of one of the greatest Romans of all time, St. Patrick!

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11,000 calories is sumo athlete intake levels.
At least chanko-nabe is reasonably healthy.

Fasting isn't for everyone, but I seem to feel a lot better after a fast day. My doctors insist I need daily intake.
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Chanko is reasonable healthy, Eating 4,000 to 7,000 calories of it each meal? Not so much.

Sumo is one of my favorite sports, but the sumo lifestyle is not for everyone, and certainly-as a whole-is not healthy. Lots of calories each of their two meals a day, lots of beer to wash it down and lots of naps to promote weight gain, Average life expectancy of a sumo wrestler is about 10 years less than their non-sumo peers. Most slim down after they retire from competition. Google "Takekeisho" and see a dramatic almost 130 lb weight loss since his retirement and him becoming a coach.

That being said, eating large meals, drinking lots of beer and napping sounds like a great day to me...

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That being said, eating large meals, drinking lots of beer and napping sounds like a great day to me...
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... among a highly competitive group.
Surely there are drinking games and napping contests. ;)

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That being said, eating large meals, drinking lots of beer and napping sounds like a great day to me...
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... among a highly competitive group.
Surely there are drinking games and napping contests. ;)
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If competitive napping was thing, I'd win the Gold Medal, World Cup, be in the Hall of Fame unanimously and have my number retired for all time.

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11,000 calories is sumo athlete intake levels.
At least chanko-nabe is reasonably healthy.

That being said, eating large meals, drinking lots of beer and napping sounds like a great day to me...
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That was my last five years of college in a nutshell.

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11,000 calories is sumo athlete intake levels.

At least chanko-nabe is reasonably healthy.



That being said, eating large meals, drinking lots of beer and napping sounds like a great day to me...
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That was my last five years of college in a nutshell.
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"Seven years of college down the drain! Might as well join the Peace Corps!" - John Blutarsky, "Animal House"

Edits for formatting. (Open q tags tick me off.)

It made financial sense to take the minimum credits to be considered full-time.

Soup and sandwich today.

Minestrone soup, total favorite, adding extra greens though

Mortadella and braunschweiger sandwich with dijon mustard.

No images today, the braunschweiger is 'not much to look at'. I've been avoiding it as I'm pretty sure it's dubious as part of a regular diet. I love it though, insisting on it and not liverwurst. The difference is mostly supposed to be that B. is made from smoked livers. I wonder if you got some from Braunschweig itself if you'd notice the smoke, but for what we get around here I do not. But it is subtly different, I seem to notice aging and firmer slicing and something undefinable as well

And the mortadella is so much better than bologna for that base

Beenie Weenie - two Nathan's hot dogs in a bowl with half of a tall can of Bush's Zero Sugar Added Baked Beans

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It made financial sense to take the minimum credits to be considered full-time.
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I would never ever insult a person's college plan, especially if they had financial constraints that made a typical 4 year plan untenable.

Back in the day a pharmacy degree was 5 years (now it's six)-4 years classroom and 1 year required internships. So whenever I hear of someone going to college for 5 years, my first question is "Oh,you went to pharmacy school too?"

I didn't have a plan. It all came together by accident. I had had a plan, but it all changed when my father died.

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It made financial sense to take the minimum credits to be considered full-time.
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I would never ever insult a person's college plan, especially if they had financial constraints that made a typical 4 year plan untenable.

Back in the day a pharmacy degree was 5 years (now it's six)-4 years classroom and 1 year required internships. So whenever I hear of someone going to college for 5 years, my first question is "Oh,you went to pharmacy school too?"
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I saw a lot of 5 year engineers. Technically, the course load could barely be completed in 4, but not while maintaining any semblance of a social life and "normal" mental health.

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It made financial sense to take the minimum credits to be considered full-time.
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I would never ever insult a person's college plan, especially if they had financial constraints that made a typical 4 year plan untenable.

Back in the day a pharmacy degree was 5 years (now it's six)-4 years classroom and 1 year required internships. So whenever I hear of someone going to college for 5 years, my first question is "Oh,you went to pharmacy school too?"
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I saw a lot of 5 year engineers. Technically, the course load could barely be completed in 4, but not while maintaining any semblance of a social life and "normal" mental health.
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Yes I remember 5 year engineering programs, and that was caused by forcing engineering students to take all these filler courses intended to keep liberal arts professors employed.

Now me was just a poor boy, I'm not related to anybody who went to college, so I developed a different path. You start out in community college, which was cheap and still is, and you get an associate's degree in a field that has the same prerequisites and basic courses for whatever you want your 4-year degree to be. In my case that was my Halliday & Resnick type classes, a couple of years of calculus and a few miscellaneous related things. Once you get that, you could get a decent job at a place that will subsidize the rest of your education.

But there's an intermediate step too- you're going to CLEP out! There are these standardized tests under the CLEP brand and a few others that allow you to get credit for a college course by taking a standardized version of the final exam. Easy! I was always better at acing exams than showing up in class and not infuriating the professor, so I did that a bunch. You can do that with any subject- just get a textbook from a used book store and put it in the bathroom. Increasing the fiber in your diet makes you learn faster. I swear, I didn't even really know what sociology was until I bought a textbook, then a week later I get like 99% on the exam and 3 credits. Best part is I missed the "college experience" and the indoctrination that way, didn't get bullied, bugged, and berated by some bloviating blue-haired bulldagger who thinks she can tell me anything about how to use the American language. And I didn't go to those parties either. I'd rather drink in an old man's bar and learn some real history, than with some puking sobbing kids who are secretly afraid of everything.

After that, I only had like 8 real classes left to take, where I really had to work, but compliments of my employer. Once you do all that you, usually have to put all the credits together in your state's external degree program because you didn't pay enough money earn enough credits in any one of the schools you went to for them to confer a degree. But it still works and you don't have debt when you're done.

And thus I could afford to eat whatever I wanted!

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Yes I remember 5 year engineering programs, and that was caused by forcing engineering students to take all these filler courses intended to keep liberal arts professors employed.
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A lot of the filler humanities credits were available through things like "Introduction to Music Appreciation" or some such. The humanities students call these "clap for credit". You show up to a few concerts, sit quietly for most of it, and clap at the right times.

All those music majors need to give a lot of concerts to get their junior high music teacher degree, and they like to pad the audiences a bit. The hardcore nerds who clued into this avenue seemed to have much lower stress levels, especially if they managed to schedule an hour of listening to classical music (for credit) after a double length brain melting lecture.

I majored in physics and minored in literature and still completed it in 4 years. For my Masters of Science I switched to Nuclear Engineering -and then was elected Student Body President - so that took me two years. Besides the undergraduate literature courses (which I loved) I had to take psychology, sociology, economics. They were all so easy I wondered how people could stand the tedium of majoring in those subjects.

This was back when tuition and room were $5K/yr. I had lots of scholarships and my student debt was trivial. Nowadays universities are inefficiently run and have few reasons not to keep raising tuition and other fees. Like many other systems, college education is now broken.

JuCo/CLEP?

Not necessarily a bad plan, but not every college takes juco/community college transfer for all courses, so check beforehand. Not every college takes CLEP credits for all courses, so check beforehand. That being said, that plan will shave about 2 to 2 1/2 years from pharmacy curriculum. Even if you have a recent BS in bio or chemistry, that will only get you about halfway there.

Again, that being said, finish a 4 year degree, by hook or by crook, by any legal means possible, if that's your career goal.

So, mealwise, today is crossroads day. I ran out of chicken, but didn't want to buy a big pack today and cook it since I won't be eating any tomorrow. My goto meal in such cases is pizza. But, that is my goto meatless meal tomorrow. So, what to do for dinner? A quick trip to the store for inspo presented a solution. Steak strips for stirfry marked down and on sale. A package of frozen sliced peppers and onions, cheese already in the fridge at home and a pack of seasoning means I'm cooking steak fajitas for dinner tonight. Going back to the store Saturday for the on sale bone-in chicken thighs and cook them Saturday, and will last in the fridge for a few days. Fresh carrots on sale too.

I eat a lot of peppers and onions. Most of the time it's a side dish, but occasionally I'll add a boatload of Parmesan cheese and make it an entree.
I picked up two five-ounce bison burgers, which will be tonight's dinner and tomorrow's lunch, along with Sweet Potato fries with a dollop of Mexican sour cream.

I could take or leave peppers. Unless they are an integral part of a recipe,I don't cook with them. Just not for me, a few recipes excepted.

How much is bison per pound compared to beef?

I could take or leave peppers. Unless they are an integral part of a recipe,I don't cook with them. Just not for me, a few recipes excepted.

How much is bison per pound compared to beef?

Today I ate some more of a baked pasta dish I make. Tricolore rotini is the pasta. And it is filled with: onion or leek, broccoli, eggplant, black olives, mozzarella and parmesan cheese, ground turkey, and the spices are thyme, soy sauce, and Worcestershire sauce.

Very satisfying and nutritious! One cooking in a standard large casserole dish lasts me 3 meals.

One of my favorite snacks is the David chocolate chip protein bar. It tastes like cookie dough and the label states 150 calories, with 28 grams of protein, and no sugar.
They cost over $3 a bar, so it's not something I eat every afternoon, but I'll go through a dozen every month or so.
Recently, David was sued in the Federal Courts, with the contention that the bars have almost double the calories and much more added sugar. At contention is a sugar alcohol that humans don't absorb. David says the compound is passed through, so it takes no calories to burn the substance, while the plaintiffs claim that anything in the bar needs to be counted.
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You'd think the feds would have standards

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One of my favorite snacks is the David chocolate chip protein bar. It tastes like cookie dough and the label states 150 calories, with 28 grams of protein, and no sugar.
They cost over $3 a bar, so it's not something I eat every afternoon, but I'll go through a dozen every month or so.
Recently, David was sued in the Federal Courts, with the contention that the bars have almost double the calories and much more added sugar. At contention is a sugar alcohol that humans don't absorb. David says the compound is passed through, so it takes no calories to burn the substance, while the plaintiffs claim that anything in the bar needs to be counted.
Opinions on the web are all over the place, with many people feeling betrayed while others think it's a tempest in a teacup.
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In the context of food, when we say "calories" we actually mean "kilocalories," and we are talking about digestible calories. The wrapper of the bar has an energy content too, but we don't count that as calories because if we were to eat the wrapper it would not be digested. It's also species dependent and we do not extract energy from cellulose like a cow does, so we do not discuss the calories in grass when talking about human nutrition.

The people who have overconsumed the sugar alcohol and proceeded to foul themselves would have a better claim.

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You'd think the feds would have standards
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Seems like there are two standards. The one commonly used measures calories burned during digestion, but another system measures calories used to break down the food. The first doesn't count ingredients that aren't digestible; the second does.
Science.