Nathan's Corner

Quote: Nathan

So, one of my local Casinos admits that free play is awarded when you LOSE. Wins are definitely not rewarded. So, in my educated theory, all a Gambler has to do is win big without their Player's card, use some of the extra money to lose while playing with the PC inside, and rack up the free play and hopefully win big on the free play and they're golden, right? Hypothetical situation. Samuel has $20. He goes to Secrets Of Stonehenge and bets $2.50. He gets a full line of The Monk, a full line of the Wolf and a full line of The Ring. Altogether, he gets $100. He is not playing with his Player's Club Card. He cashes out, goes to TITO machine and gets all $20's. He puts $60 in with a PC inserted, and puts $40 in his Winner's Bank. He cycles in $500 coin in from that $20. He ends up $50 down from that $60. That would look like a $490 LOSS in the Player's Club side, right, so Samuel can expect to see a huge Free play offer, right? :)

No... just no! This is so not how casinos work... 🤦‍♂️

Edit: adding in that your card will magically be out of the machine when you win is one of the stupider things I’ve read in this thread and that is saying a lot.

Quote: MrV

He complained about it, so I shot him in the leg with my BB rifle.

Used to be a great bullfrog pond out by Carson.

Quote: Nathan

So, one of my local Casinos admits that free play is awarded when you LOSE. Wins are definitely not rewarded. So, in my educated theory, all a Gambler has to do is win big without their Player's card, use some of the extra money to lose while playing with the PC inside, and rack up the free play and hopefully win big on the free play and they're golden, right? Hypothetical situation. Samuel has $20. He goes to Secrets Of Stonehenge and bets $2.50. He gets a full line of The Monk, a full line of the Wolf and a full line of The Ring. Altogether, he gets $100. He is not playing with his Player's Club Card. He cashes out, goes to TITO machine and gets all $20's. He puts $60 in with a PC inserted, and puts $40 in his Winner's Bank. He cycles in $500 coin in from that $20. He ends up $50 down from that $60. That would look like a $490 LOSS in the Player's Club side, right, so Samuel can expect to see a huge Free play offer, right? :)

Nathan.

You have a Tell.

Quote: PokerGrinder

No... just no! This is so not how casinos work... 🤦‍♂️

Edit: adding in that your card will magically be out of the machine when you win is one of the stupider things I’ve read in this thread and that is saying a lot.

In my hypothetical situation, the Player wasn't playing with his PC inserted when he won the $100 on Secrets Of Stonehenge. He only put the PC in after visiting the TITO Machine. ;)

Quote: Nathan

In my hypothetical situation, the Player wasn't playing with his PC inserted when he won the $100 on Secrets Of Stonehenge. He only put the PC in after visiting the TITO Machine. ;)

But you can't typically predict when you are going to win or lose. If you could do that, we'd all be winners!

One game you possibly could do this to an extent is Ultimate X poker. Always remove your card when the average multiplier is above 2X. But beware, the casino could revoke your membership if they caught you. Revel in AC did that to those who tried this over their loss rebate promo.

I have $10 in Free Play tomorrow. I vow to cycle through it and then play just a little bit of my wins and keep the rest:)

I vow to bang my head against a wall, let some blood drip out but keep the rest :)

I vow not to electrocute, decapitate, or incinerate any left-handed lesbian dwarves.

Quote: MrV

I vow not to electrocute, decapitate, or incinerate any left-handed lesbian dwarves.

Mr. V you have to put the smile at the end to make them believe you’re not mocking them.

Quote: PokerGrinder

Mr. V you have to put the smile at the end to make them believe you’re not mocking them.

Maybe he’s not though?

Quote: RS

Maybe he’s not though?

Then he needs a smiley!

In The Twilight Zone, A Nice Place To Visit," A real Scumbag of a man named Henry Francis Valentine (he calls himself Rocky because his life has been rocky. Tired of waiting for the breaks to come to other people but never to him(Paraphrased from Rod Sterling's opening narration, ;) who killed a Pawn Shop Worker, and robbed said Pawn Shop, then shoots at a cop while attempting to run off after the Murder/Robbery. He is shot and killed by said Cop.

When he awakes, a man named Pip claims he is there as his guide meant to give him everything he wants. He demands him to give him his wallet. Pip mentions he doesn't want a wallet, he wants money. Rocky agrees and Pip gives him $700(Which was actually already big money in 1959 when this episode was released. In 2019, this would have been roughly $3,000, so a nice chunk of change, ;)

Pip takes him to a nice apartment. He relaxes until Pip gives him good food on a silver platter and Rocky suspiciously tells Pip to eat some food and Pip declines and said he "Used to eat, but doesn't anymore it's been a really long time since he last ate," which understandably makes Rocky's suspicions feel confirmed and he accuses Pip of poisoning the food and says something like,"You poison food and try to trick me into eating it. That was actually clever but I'm too clever to fall for it!" He shoots Pip multiple times and is shocked that bullets have no effect on him. Pip soon lets Rocky know that Rocky died from a bullet being shot into his head.

Rocky's apartment had booze in it and fancy suits. He also found a million dollars in his dresser(BIGGER money in 1959 than the $700 Pip gave him earlier, and in 2019, would have been roughly 5 million dollars.) He also had beautiful women who came to the apartment.He surmised he was in Heaven which technically Pip neither confirmed nor denied.

Rocky implied he wanted to Gamble, hey, he could be a WOV Poster, ;) so he and Pip go to the Casino. Rocky has beautiful women who literally hang on him. He chooses 14 red on Roulette and it wins! He cheers happily and implied he was on a huge winning streak. He mentioned winning $40,000 in just about an hour. ($40,000 in 1959 is roughly $200,000 in 2019, so a lot of money. To put this into perspective, he could have bought a cheap house in just one hour. So a lot of money. ;) He goes to a slot machine and wins a hat full of quarters. He cheers.

Later he wants to know what he did to deserve Heaven and he and Pip go to The Hall Of Records to find his Records. He is confused when he sees his records are his bad deeds, not good ones, I.e, at 6 he slaughtered a small dog, at 8 he organized street crime, at 9, he stole toys from a 5 and dime store. He í dad ß was aaaaahhhhh u like,"What the hell?" But brushes it off because he surmises that God is okay with his bad deeds. Seriously? -.-

He is able to torment a police officer which brings him great delight.

Later on, he wins a Royal Flush(The best hand on Poker, ;) and the pretty Female Dealer says she has a Straight Flush(Second best hand in Poker, ;), meaning he won again. He sounded and looked miserably depressed. Instead of CHEERING, and SMILING, like you would expect someone who won the best Poker Hand ever to do, he behaves and looks like his child was murdered. It's clear that something was horribly wrong.

He also has a depressed demeanor when he won 33 black on Roulette . Compare this to how happy he was when he won on 14 Black earlier. He then wins a lot of quarters in a slot machine and jaded, leaves it on the ground. In a pool game, he wins a perfect game. He frustrated, breaks the cue stick. We once again get the feeling something is really wrong here.

Rocky confesses to Pip that he's been in Heaven for a month and was ready to snap and he was tired of the apartment, winning every time he gambled(Winning every time isn't gambling, that's Charity!" ) Bored with beautiful women. He wanted to go to the other place(Hell,) in 1959 you couldn't say Hell on TV, contrast that to the much more liberal 2019, ;)

Pip then tells him THIS was the other place while Rocky looks stunned and tries to leave the now locked apartment while Pip laughs heartily and maliciously. Rod Sterling's closing narration called Ricky "A scared, angry man who never got a break. Now he has everything he ever wanted and he's going to have to live with it for an eternity."

Question. How long would it have taken YOU to start getting tired of winning every time you gambled? It took Rocky a month to start snapping, how about you? Less, more?

You described a modern take on an old school morality play.

In the real world, were I to somehow win every time I gambled I'd bet max and pour on the coal: hello, powers of god.

Soon I'd be the king of the world.

Go deep.

Quote: PokerGrinder

Edit: adding in that your card will magically be out of the machine when you win is one of the stupider things I’ve read in this thread and that is saying a lot.

It is not. NOT EVEN CLOSE......

Quote: SOOPOO

It is not. NOT EVEN CLOSE......

Lol I like you Soopoo you make me laugh.

There is some good information in this thread.
Gambling tips like these are hard to find.

Quote: Nathan

In The Twilight Zone, A Nice Place To Visit," A real Scumbag of a man named Henry Francis Valentine (he calls himself Rocky because his life has been rocky. Tired of waiting for the breaks to come to other people but never to him(Paraphrased from Rod Sterling's opening narration, ;) who killed a Pawn Shop Worker, and robbed said Pawn Shop, then shoots at a cop while attempting to run off after the Murder/Robbery. He is shot and killed by said Cop.

When he awakes, a man named Pip claims he is there as his guide meant to give him everything he wants. He demands him to give him his wallet. Pip mentions he doesn't want a wallet, he wants money. Rocky agrees and Pip gives him $700(Which was actually already big money in 1959 when this episode was released. In 2019, this would have been roughly $3,000, so a nice chunk of change, ;)

Pip takes him to a nice apartment. He relaxes until someone gives him good food on a silver platter and Rocky offers Pip some food and Pip said he "Used to eat, but doesn't anymore it's been a really long time since he last ate," which understandably makes Rocky suspicious and he accuses Pip of poisoning the food and says something like,"You poison food and try to trick me into eating it. That was actually clever but I'm too clever to fall for it!" He shoots Pip multiple times and is shocked that bullets have no effect on him. Pip soon lets him know that he died from a bullet being shot into his head.

Rocky's apartment had booze in it and fancy suits. He also found a million dollars in his dresser(BIGGER money in 1959 than the $700 Pip gave him earlier, and in 2019, would have been roughly 5 million dollars.) He also had beautiful women who came to the apartment.He surmised he was in Heaven which technically Pip neither confirmed nor denied.

Rocky implied he wanted to Gamble, hey, he could be a WOV Poster, ;) so he and Pip go to the Casino. Rocky has beautiful women who literally hang on him. He chooses 14 black on Roulette and it wins! He cheers happily and implied he was on a huge winning streak. He goes to a slot machine and wins a hat full of quarters. He cheers.

Later he wants to know what he did to deserve Heaven and he and Pip go to The Hall Of Records to find his Records. He is confused when he sees his records are his bad deeds, not good ones, I.e, at 6 he slaughtered a small dog, at 8 he organized street crime, at 9, he stole toys from a 5 and dime store. He is like,"What the hell?" But brushes it off because he surmises that God is okay with his bad deeds. Seriously? -.-

He is able to torment a police officer which brings him great delight.

Later on, he wins a Royal Flush(The best hand on Poker, ;) and the pretty Female Dealer says she has a Straight Flush(Second best hand in Poker, ;), meaning he won again. He sounded and looked miserably depressed. Instead of CHEERING, and SMILING, like you would expect someone who won the best Poker Hand ever to do, he behaves and looks like his child was murdered. It's clear that something was horribly wrong.

He also has a depressed demeanor when he won 33 black on Roulette . Compare this to how happy he was when he won on 14 Black earlier. He then wins a lot of quarters in a slot machine and jaded, leaves it on the ground. In a pool game, he wins a perfect game. He frustrated, breaks the cue stick. We once again get the feeling something is really wrong here.

Rocky confesses to Pip that he's been in Heaven for a month and was ready to snap and he was tired of the apartment, winning every time he gambled(Winning every time isn't gambling, that's Charity!" ) Bored with beautiful women. He wanted to go to the other place(Hell,) in 1959 you couldn't say Hell on TV, contrast that to the much more liberal 2019, ;)

Pip then tells him THIS was the other place while Rocky looks stunned and tries to leave the now locked apartment while Pip laughs heartily and maliciously. Rod Sterling's closing narration called Ricky "A scared, angry man who never got a break. Now he has everything he ever wanted and he's going to have to live with it for an eternity."

Question. How long would it have taken YOU to start getting tired of winning every time you gambled? It took Rocky a month to start snapping, how about you? Less, more?

Definitely one of my favorite episodes! It's a shame sometimes that we adapt to the good things in our lives and become dissatisfied.

Quote: Nathan

I have $10 in Free Play tomorrow. I vow to cycle through it and then play just a little bit of my wins and keep the rest:)

Sadly, my wins were literally just a little. I won less than HALF of the free play in cash. Bummer. :/ I was expecting like $8 back in cash. To not even get $5 back is the pits. The only times worse are when I don't even get a complete $1 back in cash.

Good fictional "Dumb Character," smart moments? :)

Cole from Martin. "Martin, why are you laughing? This guy is corny!" When Martin's Rival(Played by Tommy Davidson cracks a stupid joke and Martin laughed as if it were the funniest joke in the world. I was thinking,"Coke is actually right! What a lame joke!" Martin admitted he only laughed because he wanted his rival to put him on his TV show. "I'm going to act like he's Eddie Murphy so that I'll get my three minutes on his show!"

Cole-"Don't say anything. Gina doesn't know how to run a show on her own and will crash and burn quickly if you don't engage with her." In this episode, Gina was doing fiery banter with Martin and his radio show audience was eating it up. Martin feared that Gina would be more loved then him on his own show and that's when Cole actually gave the good advice that worked. Gina begun making corny chat when Martin conviently left her alone. The radio listeners really ripped into her for that corny chat and although Martin stood up for her, (He cussed out his listeners for making her REALLY upset)he admitted he set her up for that but didn't know his listeners would rip into her THAT badly.

Cole-Martin. "Isn't it really sad that we give the Government so much money and all they give us is cheese!" Wow. Even a dumb character can have moments of smart clarity.

Hillary Banks-Fresh Prince. "Daddy, I'm an adult and need to make my own decisions." Hillary said this when Phil didn't want her to pose for Playboy. Phil admitted Hillary wasn't a little girl anymore but a beautiful, grown woman who was capable of thinking for herself.

Hillary. She smiled sadly when her show was announced it had been picked up for syndication. Syndication is a big deal in TV, so she should have been thrilled, not sad. She admitted she felt empty without being a mother. She usually came across as an airhead so her saying something so serious was a pleasant surprise.

Hillary. Actually giving Ashley good advice on possibly losing her virginity to her boyfriend. "You've always been smart and mature. Go with your heart on this one."

Hillary giving Will the death stare when he confesses that the pills that Carlton took that landed Carlton in the hospital came from his locker. Hillary also comforts Carlton, clearly grateful he survived.

Hillary giving Will the death stare and threatening and beginning to throttle him when he causes her to miss her hair appointment with her usual hair stylist and causing her to go to his incompetent assistant. Her hair looked crazy due to Will and no one could blame her for being so furious at Will.

Hillary. Mentioned that she gambles on ALL the Horses, knowing that one of them will win. Will say,"Hillary, one of those horses has to win!" Hillary mentions that was her plan. I did this myself on Roulette, play all of the numbers, and I only lost .50, not a bad bet at all.

Hillary. Phil told her she needed to move out of the house, find a house that was not part of the house, so she chose the pool house. Phil exasperated said,"That's still on the property!" She pointed out that although it was still on the property, it wasn't part of the house and he just said he wanted her to find a place that wasn't part of the house. Phil admitted that Hillary won that one.

Hillary. "I want to be like the other women in this family. Strong, proud, wise."

Hillary. Got depressed when she indirectly caused her boyfriend's death. She told him that she wanted him to propose to her in a spectacular way, so he proposed to her by bungee jumping(Hillary, will you marry.... " and accidentally fell to his death. The family watched his death in shock. She grieved over him in a funk. In a later episode she seriously said to Will,"You're not the only one to have lost a loved one!" But then they made it comical by her forgetting his name. Trevor, which Will reminded her of. In yet another episode, Hillary was having a hard time dating again after Trevor's death. It took her a very long time to move on romantically after his death. It was really touching how mature Hillary was with the Trevor's death thing.

:)

BTW what did Tommy do for a job in Martin?

Quote: djatc

BTW what did Tommy do for a job in Martin?

It was implied that he was either a drug dealer, an office worker, or a Teacher. Drug dealer-Had a beeper and got mysterious calls on it frequently and had lots of money but no seeming job. Office Worker. Claimed he worked in a high rise building with no windows that closed around 6. Teacher. He claimed he worked with kids. :)

Quote: Nathan

It was implied that he was either a drug dealer, an office worker, or a Teacher. Drug dealer-Had a beeper and got mysterious calls on it frequently and had lots of money but no seeming job. Office Worker. Claimed he worked in a high rise building with no windows that closed around 6. Teacher. He claimed he worked with kids. :)

Maybe he sells drugs to kids out of a high rise?

Quote: RS

Maybe he sells drugs to kids out of a high rise?

Gasp! Sacre Bleu! O.O

I am thinking of trying Texas Holdem. My local Casino has it for a $3 minimum, just $1 more than Roulette Minimum. Should I go for it? Is TH a good game with a lower house edge?

Quote: Nathan

I am thinking of trying Texas Holdem. My local Casino has it for a $3 minimum, just $1 more than Roulette Minimum. Should I go for it? Is TH a good game with a lower house edge?

What is the exact name of the game you might play? Look at it and let us know. There are half a dozen that kind of have that name.

Quote: beachbumbabs

What is the exact name of the game you might play? Look at it and let us know. There are half a dozen that kind of have that name.

I THINK it says Ultimate Texas Holdem.

Ah yes, the beloved UTH. Quite a game of chance.


Btw I feel like a dirty criminal cuz I ate at QDoba earlier and it’s been tearing me up inside. Is there a Catholic Church in Vegas I can confess to?

Wizard has been missing for two days! O.O Two days is long enough to file a missing person's report! O.O Wizard, where are you? O.O. I wonder if he is okay! O.O

Quote: Nathan

Wizard has been missing for two days! O.O Two days is long enough to file a missing person's report! O.O Wizard, where are you? O.O. I wonder if he is okay! O.O

I was actually wondering the same thing. Hmmmm

Probably out camping.

Quote: Nathan

Wizard has been missing for two days! O.O Two days is long enough to file a missing person's report! O.O Wizard, where are you? O.O. I wonder if he is okay! O.O

We haven't heard from VictoriaLV either. Coincidence??? You decide. (-;

Quote: AxelWolf

We haven't heard from VictoriaLV either. Coincidence??? You decide. (-;

Yeah, but Victoria seemed to have been a one day Poster. Wizard is much more present and known than Victoria, so Victoria never posting again is "Meh." Wizard being gone for two days is O.O

Quote: Nathan

Yeah, but Victoria seemed to have been a one day Poster. Wizard is much more present and known than Victoria, so Victoria never posting again is "Meh." Wizard being gone for two days is O.O

Wizard is back! O.O

Quote: RS

Wizard is back! O.O

I noticed when he gave me a reply to my PM to him. :) Oh happy joy joy That Wizard is back! :D

Quote: RS

Wizard is back! O.O

so is Victoria, she just sent me a PM.


You decide....



She must be blocking her sh*t.
???


#I'mgettingtrolled.

I have a brand new website. :D As the saying goes,"Learn from mistakes in the past." My old website I linked to I had VERY poor Admin Skills and I should have
become a better Admin before linking to it on here. Once again, Wizard has allowed me to link my new website on this Forum, so, here it is! :D https://www.voy.com/247662/

Quote: Nathan

Wizard has been missing for two days! O.O Two days is long enough to file a missing person's report! O.O Wizard, where are you? O.O. I wonder if he is okay! O.O

It's nice to be missed, thank you. I took a little weekend vacation to Laughlin. I hope everyone has been behaving themselves while I was away.

Quote: Wizard

It's nice to be missed, thank you. I took a little weekend vacation to Laughlin. I hope everyone has been behaving themselves while I was away.

Sacre Blue! You ran off to Laughlin to frolic for a couple of days without telling us first! I was talking about filing a Missing person's file on you! You had us worried! O.O

Quote: Nathan

Sacre Blue!

I thought sacreblue was one word, not two. Who is the resident expert on French around here?

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Who is You ran off to Laughlin to frolic for a couple of days without telling us first! I was talking about filing a Missing person's file on you! You had us worried! O.O

I was afraid everybody would get into mischief if they knew I wasn't watching. Nice to be missed. I don't think my kids even knew I was gone. At least my dog was happy to see me.

Quote: Nathan

I have a brand new website. :D As the saying goes,"Learn from mistakes in the past." My old website I linked to I had VERY poor Admin Skills and I should have
become a better Admin before linking to it on here. Once again, Wizard has allowed me to link my new website on this Forum, so, here it is! :D https://www.voy.com/247662/

Well I have to say that is quite the forum you have there Nathan. The only content is someone called karensblueballs asking if you deepthroat or take it in the you know where. Wiz beware she’ll give you a run for her money lmao.

Quote: PokerGrinder

Quote: Nathan

I have a brand new website. :D As the saying goes,"Learn from mistakes in the past." My old website I linked to I had VERY poor Admin Skills and I should have
become a better Admin before linking to it on here. Once again, Wizard has allowed me to link my new website on this Forum, so, here it is! :D https://www.voy.com/247662/

Well I have to say that is quite the forum you have there Nathan. The only content is someone called karensblueballs asking if you deepthroat or take it in the you know where. Wiz beware she’ll give you a run for her money lmao.

Hey, at least vulgarities are clearly welcomed ;D

Running websites does not seem to be Nathan's forte. Will not be clicking on that link again.

Let me get this off my chest without making a thread. Im sick of this.

Basic strategy is not devised to ALWAYS ASSUME A 10. IF I HEAR ANOTHER PLAYER OR DEALER SAYING YOU GOTTA ASSUME A 10 IS UNDERNEATH, IM GOING TO LOSE MY MIND.

Basic strategy assumes A 'TOTAL OF 10', NOT A 10 VALUE CARD. JESUS.

END OF RANT

Let that sink in.

You know what they say about those who assume.

Quote: MaxPen

You know what they say about those who assume.

xkcd: When you assume

Quote: Wizard

It's nice to be missed, thank you. I took a little weekend vacation to Laughlin. I hope everyone has been behaving themselves while I was away.

were you feeling too old and wanted to be the youngest person in a casino by like 30 years? That's what it feels like for me when I went there

Quote: Wizard

.... Nice to be missed. I don't think my kids even knew I was gone. At least my dog was happy to see me.

Was anybody feeding it while you were away?

Quote: MaxPen

Running websites does not seem to be Nathan's forte. Will not be clicking on that link again.

I deleted the vulgar post and banned the poster. I had been asleep when the nasty post had been posted and when I woke up and saw that post, I was like,"Hell no!" And got rid of both post and poster.

Quote: PokerGrinder

Quote: Nathan

I have a brand new website. :D As the saying goes,"Learn from mistakes in the past." My old website I linked to I had VERY poor Admin Skills and I should have
become a better Admin before linking to it on here. Once again, Wizard has allowed me to link my new website on this Forum, so, here it is! :D https://www.voy.com/247662/

Well I have to say that is quite the forum you have there Nathan. The only content is someone called karensblueballs asking if you deepthroat or take it in the you know where. Wiz beware she’ll give you a run for her money lmao.

Thanks for the heads up, Poker Grinder. I had been asleep when that vulgar post had been posted and when I woke up, I saw your heads up post and went to my website and saw that nasty post and thought,"Oh hell no!" And got rid of both post and poster.