Nathan's Corner
You cannot be serious. I'm wondering if there is a trick I don't see in that statement.Quote: DRichI will bet you $500 that you don't pay it by that date.
Quote: onenickelmiracleYou cannot be serious. I'm wondering if there is a trick I don't see in that statement.
I am completely serious. She won't pay by then.
Quote: MaxPenIf you and I were on the street and I told you, "I will give you $5 for your birthday if the next car to pass is not red". The next car to pass is blue. Now I owe you $5. Since it was for your birthday, which is 3 months away, we agree that I can pay you anytime before then.
Would it then be acceptable for me to call you up a month later, having never paid, and state that I intend to not pay on my original proposition if the next car to cross your path is red. However, if it is not red then I will pay you $10.
The first is an offered freeroll. The second is a forced bet, if it is without your consent. Nathan should pay up or move on to another place to troll.
Nathan should pay the $100. Then by all means feel free to offer another freeroll to prove her number picking abilities. Otherwise she is just trolling, in my opinion. This is the equivalent to bet welshing. Isn't that a bannable offense?
Where did she say this is double or nothing? She is still paying the $100. This is just another free roll.
Quote: DRichI am completely serious. She won't pay by then.
Seems like an AP opportunity here. I lend nathan 100 to pay and split the 500 with her.
Quote: GWAESeems like an AP opportunity here. I lend nathan 100 to pay and split the 500 with her.
I will bet a million based on DRich's posted Nathan quote.
Keep defending her. Then you ken try to lend her the money to pay off her free roll. She can owe you then and will never win the bet against DRich. What do you have to lose? With your excellent reading comprehension and all🙄😃
Quote: GWAESeems like an AP opportunity here. I lend nathan 100 to pay and split the 500 with her.
That would be the perfect time for her to welch.
If she won't pay $100, why would or how would you expect to be paid $500? You're offering a free roll it seems, but you can't be so foolish, I'm thinking there has to be some con in the wording. Axelwolf would sniff this out if there was one, don't know if he would answer.Quote: DRichI am completely serious. She won't pay by then.
Edit: I found it.
I believe this is Nathan's jumping the shark moment.
Quote: MaxPenI will bet a million based on DRich's posted Nathan quote.
Keep defending her. Then you ken try to lend her the money to pay off her free roll. She can owe you then and will never win the bet against DRich. What do you have to lose? With your excellent reading comprehension and all🙄😃
You mad bro?
I am not defending her but if we are going to give her a hard time I think the facts should be presented correctly.
She offered a free roll. She never said when she would pay. Since it was for the spring fling I think it should be assumed it would be paid then.
She has offered another free roll, but never said it was a double or nothing. I am all for 25 free rolls. She wont pay 5k the same as she wont pay $100 so what's the difference.
I do like how she said 30 days to pay this one so at least we can get her banned in 30 days. Too bad mission wasnt still green or he would have his finger on the bad button ready to go. Bbb might be ready as well.
I just cant wait to hear the excuse.
Quote: GWAEWhere did she say this is double or nothing? She is still paying the $100. This is just another free roll.
I think he is referring to the sneaky, underhanded,dastardly ap stunt i pulled where i asked wizard if i could go double or nothing and pay $200 if my numbers did not come up within two extra weeks. Wizard gently refused, saying something like,"i personally think that allowing you to go double or nothing on a promised bet is a bad idea. It would set a bad precedent. Just pay the promised bet of $100 when you can." Darn, considering the fact that some of my numbers came up like three times in the third week.
He said he didn't like people betting on credit Nathan, and didn't want to encourage it if given a chance to refuse it.Quote: NathanI think he is referring to the sneaky, underhanded,dastardly ap stunt i pulled where i asked wizard if i could go double or nothing and pay $200 if my numbers did not come up within two extra weeks. Wizard gently refused, saying something like,"i personally think that allowing you to go double or nothing on a promised bet is a bad idea. It would set a bad precedent. Just pay the promised bet of $100 when you can." Darn, considering the fact that some of my numbers came up like three times in the third week.
Quote: onenickelmiracleHe said he didn't like people betting on credit Nathan, and didn't want to encourage it if given a chance to refuse it.
okay. makes sense. :)
Quote: billryanI'm good with her having time to pay off her first bit of stupidity, but not with new bets or promises until it's paid in full.
I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm ok with a double or nothing proposition. I've taken more double or nothing bets than I can shake a stick at. I don't think I've ever engaged in a double or nothing more than a couple of rounds deep. There is a limit somewhere.
I'm not really sure how if feel about double or nothing on a free roll.... But more interesting, at least to me, is I also kinda agree with the don't take bets on credit when the prior bet hasn't been resolved thinking.
I'm thinking it's really about the reputation / creditability of the bettor.
I saw it immediately and would be interested in some action on this wager :o)Quote: onenickelmiracleIf she won't pay $100, why would or how would you expect to be paid $500? You're offering a free roll it seems, but you can't be so foolish, I'm thinking there has to be some con in the wording. Axelwolf would sniff this out if there was one, don't know if he would answer.
Edit: I found it.
That's not what I saw.Quote: OnceDearI saw it immediately and would be interested in some action on this wager :o)
She won't pay because she won't lose. One of the combination of picks that she made is very likely to show over the allotted time. When she doesn't lose, she doesn't pay and when she doesn't pay, DRich wins his $500.
LOL how everyone who’s mad Nathan posts here is also mad she doesn’t “pay up”. Chill out.
Quote: onenickelmiracleThat's not what I saw.Quote: OnceDearI saw it immediately and would be interested in some action on this wager :o)
She won't pay because she won't lose. One of the combination of picks that she made is very likely to show over the allotted time. When she doesn't lose, she doesn't pay and when she doesn't pay, DRich wins his $500.She wrote March 2018, but meant March 2019. Would be impossible for her to make the payment by a date six months ago.
I saw that one too when it happened , but I wasn’t sure she was clever enough to do it on purpose
Quote: Nathanhas anyone noticed a slight difference in my writing style as of recent? :/
Nope, same quality as we have grown to expect.
Quote: Nathanhas anyone noticed a slight difference in my writing style as of recent? :/
Yes, like in this post, you're making grammar mistakes you didn't make before. Why do you think that is?
Quote: beachbumbabsYes, like in this post, you're making grammar mistakes you didn't make before. Why do you think that is?
by gum, you got it! :) tropical storm gordon messed up my very good device forcing me to get an inferior device that makes using capital letters a hassle. I had to press a button 3 times just to do the proper i in the beginning of this sentence! And the 3 is 4 button presses! :/
So the K in Kentry would show up as a lowercase letter?Quote: Nathanby gum, you got it! :) tropical storm gordon messed up my very good device forcing me to get an inferior device that makes using capital letters a hassle.
I have a feeling his writing style recently changed as well.
Quote: Nathanby gum, you got it! :) tropical storm gordon messed up my very good device forcing me to get an inferior device that makes using capital letters a hassle. I had to press a button 3 times just to do the proper i in the beginning of this sentence! And the 3 is 4 button presses! :/
I apologize for my tropical storm, and frankly I was embarrassed that it was never elevated to a hurricane.
Quote: gordonm888I apologize for my tropical storm, and frankly I was embarrassed that it was never elevated to a hurricane.
You owe me a good device. ;)
I told her about sticking to the hot numbers. And lo and behold,the 0,00, 22, 31, which were hot numbers popped up multiple times. She asked me what the 2:1 outside bet does. I told her that bet gives your winning number/winning choice extra money.
She got up to an extra $20 with my tips and was grateful and thankful for my help. :) i got good roulette karma my slot free play netted me roughly $20, hey the amount she was up,;) and i went to play some roulette with half the money and spuirreled the half i needed. Up and down, i left with about $40 and ran for the hills with that money! :)
[speaking as a member]Please don't ever give such nonsensical advice on this forum. Your posts would get the ridicule they deserve. Maybe don't boast about winning till you have settled your other gambling debts ( that other place, especially ) because it sort of cancels out pleading for time to pay when you continue to throw money at gambling. Your words of wisdom on hot numbers and covering zero were total loblocks.[/speaking as a member]Quote: NathanGot good roulette karma! I taught a young woman who was only playing inside numbers how to play outside choices. She had no idea you could play outside choices as well. I admitted i didn't know about outside choices either until i learned about the outside choices from a roulette app,i also told her to make sure to always include 0 and 00 when playing(which is already part of the outside choices).
I told her about sticking to the hot numbers. And lo and behold,the 0,00, 22, 31, which were hot numbers popped up multiple times. She asked me what the 2:1 outside bet does. I told her that bet gives your winning number/winning choice extra money.
She got up to an extra $20 with my tips and was grateful and thankful for my help. :) i got good roulette karma my slot free play netted me roughly $20, hey the amount she was up,;) and i went to play some roulette. Up and down, i left with about $40 and ran for the hills with that money! :)
Quote: PokerGrinderYou just posted about absolutely needing every dollar that you could get until payday and then you manage to get lucky and win $20 off FP only to play roulette with it. Nathan you have a gambling problem, no ifs, ands or buts.
There is no credible evidence that "Nathan" has ever made a bet on a roulette table. So I will disagree that "Nathan" has a gambling problem.
'Nathan the character' seems to have a serious gambling problem. Maybe the person that types as 'Nathan' does not, if everything 'Nathan' says is just a work of fiction.Quote: PokerGrinderYou just posted about absolutely needing every dollar that you could get until payday and then you manage to get lucky and win $20 off FP only to play roulette with it. Nathan you have a gambling problem, no ifs, ands or buts.
Nathan the character is about as qualified to teach roulette as Al, 'The Professor', Kaufman.
Quote: PokerGrinderYou just posted about absolutely needing every dollar that you could get until payday and then you manage to get lucky and win $20 off FP only to play roulette with it. Nathan you have a gambling problem, no ifs, ands or buts.
I should have mentioned that i had set aside money not to play with to last me the week, so i was in actuality playing half the money, $10,and getting good wins, not touching the $10 i had set aside,and i made off with $30 extra dollars. The $10 i needed wasn't played, the other $10 was expendable, so all in all i left with $40.
Sorry, I'm English. Could someone please translate that for me?Quote: NathanI should have mentioned that i had set aside money not to play with to last me the week, so i was in actuality playing half the money, $10,and getting good wins, not touching the $10 i had set aside,and i made off with $30 extra dollars. The $10 i needed wasn't played, the other $10 was expendable, so all in all i left with $40.
Quote: OnceDearSorry, I'm English. Could someone please translate that for me?
I played the half i didn't need,and saved the half i needed. The half i played with turned into $30.
I tend to be very trusting but I happen to feel that your very dismissive attitude may indeed be quite correct here. I think it is all a 'put on'. All of it.Quote: SOOPOOThere is no credible evidence that "Nathan" has ever made a bet on a roulette table. So I will disagree that "Nathan" has a gambling problem.
Quote: NathanI played the half i didn't need,and saved the half i needed. The half i played with turned into $30.
What happened to the third half?
Please define 'Needed' in this context:-Quote: NathanI played the half i didn't need,and saved the half i needed. The half i played with turned into $30.
Needed to buy myself enough rice to survive?
Needed to feed myself properly?
Needed to feed myself properly, pay my rent and utility bills?
Needed to feed myself properly, pay my rent and utility bills and pay for my phone and internet connection?
Needed to feed myself properly, pay my rent and utility bills, pay for my phone and internet connection and get my hair cut
Needed to feed myself properly, pay my rent and utility bills, pay for my phone and internet connection, get my hair cut and put aside money for healthcare and retirement?
Needed to feed myself properly, pay my rent and utility bills, pay for my phone and internet connection, get my hair cut, put aside money for healthcare and retirement and settle my gambling debts?
Needed to feed myself properly, pay my rent and utility bills, pay for my phone and internet connection, get my hair cut, put aside money for healthcare and retirement, settle my gambling debts, and feed my gambling addiction?
What becomes of your winnings? Since it isn't needed ( how could it be ) are you struggling to find someplace to throw it?
Nope. I really don't buy any of this work of fiction.
Quote: NathanThis was meant as a cute antecdote on how i got good karma after helping someone on roulette play better and is quickly turning ugly.
All you
Ken do is
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Yeah. Funny how that happens. No good turn goes unpunished :o)Quote: NathanThis was meant as a cute antecdote on how i got good karma after helping someone on roulette play better and is quickly turning ugly.
Cute idea: Pay your gambling debts before gambling.
Quote: OnceDearYeah. Funny how that happens. No good turn goes unpunished :o)
Cute idea: Pay your gambling debts before gambling.
Not really gambling when it's money won from free play money. Also i thought i was going to win when i made the freeroll bet twice. Silly me. I was so sure that at least one of those numbers where going to hit within two weeks that i said two weeks only for them to hit multiple times in the third week. Stupid of me to not add an extra week. And plain bad luck to have many of them show up just one digit away, the worst being 101 showing up after i predicted 111 would show up.
From the moment your free play has been wagered through its 'wagering requirement, and has become real spendable money, then any wagering you do with that is gambling.Quote: NathanNot really gambling when it's money won from free play money
You should, of course always use your free play to the extent that it becomes real money or lost money.
I'll swear you said you'd used your free play and had, in hand, 20 real dollars. That was the point you should have considered your priorities. That you went on to win is purely incidental.
You said $10 was needed and $10 was not needed, so held back. How the hell did you find yourself in a situation where you 'NEEDED' to win $10. Needed for what?
Degenerate gamblers 'NEED' to win with their free play
This is total nonsense. You were indeed unlucky that none of your numbers game in. Dammit, you predicted enough of the blighters that the odds were much better than a coin toss. If you'd said that at least one of the sets of numbers would show in the next ten years, you would never have needed to think about being 'close' There is no such thing as close in a win/lose lottery pick. You win or you don't. No grey middle ground.Quote: NathanNot really gambling when it's money won from free play money. Also i thought i was going to win when i made the freeroll bet twice. Silly me. I was so sure that at least one of those numbers where going to hit within two weeks that i said two weeks only for them to hit multiple times in the third week. Stupid of me to not add an extra week. And plain bad luck to have many of them show up just one digit away, the worst being 101 showing up after i predicted 111 would show up.
Quote: OnceDearFrom the moment your free play has been wagered through its 'wagering requirement, and has become real spendable money, then any wagering you do with that is gambling.
You should, of course always use your free play to the extent that it becomes real money or lost money.
You said $10 was needed and $10 was not needed, so held back. Was it real money at that point? If so, how was any of it 'needed'?
I walked into the casino broke with only free play. The free play netted me $20 in real cash. I put away the $10 i needed and played the other $10 i could afford to play with. I ended up with $30,so i made a $20 profit on that $10. All in all, i went from walking in broke to leaving with $40. :)
Quote: NathanI walked into the casino broke with only free play. The free play netted me $20 in real cash. I put away the $10 i needed and played the other $10 i could afford to play with. I ended up with $30,so i made a $20 profit on that $10. All in all, i went from walking in broke to leaving with $40. :)
Good for you, this time.
But if you can't see a certain flaw in the idea of being broke and walking into a casino ( first dumb mistake ) and then gambling $10 when you were only $10 away from being broke ( second dumb mistake )... AND having gambling debts anyway ( zeroth dumb mistake )... Well you are a lost cause.
PAY YOUR GAMBLING DEBTS! Stop gambling until you have.
Quote: OnceDearGood for you, this time.
But if you can't see a certain flaw in the idea of being broke and walking into a casino ( first dumb mistake ) and then gambling $10 when you were only $10 away from being broke ( second dumb mistake )... AND having gambling debts anyway ( zeroth dumb mistake )... Well you are a lost cause.
PAY YOUR GAMBLING DEBTS! Stop gambling until you have.
You have to remember i get free play everyday except thursdays so i usually have some money almost every day from those free plays.
You'll never have money, based on your own descriptions of yourself.Quote: NathanYou have to remember i get free play everyday except thursdays so i usually have some money almost every day from those free plays.
Nathan describes Nathan as the epitome of the degenerate gambling addict: A person that visits the casino almost every day, going in broke just for the possibility of turning free play into money she needs, and while in there, gambling with real money that is just above absolute subsistence level.
If Nathan were a real person, I'd pity her.
Quote: OnceDearSorry, I'm English. Could someone please translate that for me?
Her story wasn't making sense so she added to it. How unusual.
Quote: OnceDear[speaking as a member]Please don't ever give such nonsensical advice on this forum.
I seem to recall that Nathan was given pretty much carte blanche to post what she wanted on this thread, and that she will not be penalized for vapidity, cupidity, or even apparent stupidity so long as the contents of her posts do not violate forum rules.
Yes, O.D. you framed your admonition "as a member," but you really can't pull that one off anymore as you are an admin: hello, velvet fist.
My point: you should refrain from saying that Nathan should or should not say certain things within the narrow confines of this thread: the wiz has designated this as her outhouse to use as she sees fit.
There will be flies, and stench: it's cause and effect.
Quote: OnceDearYou'll never have money, based on your own descriptions of yourself.
Nathan describes Nathan as the epitome of the degenerate gambling addict: A person that visits the casino almost every day, going in broke just for the possibility of turning free play into money she needs, and while in there, gambling with real money that is just above absolute subsistence level.
If Nathan were a real person, I'd pity her.
I am a few days away from my payday so it's natural to use free play money to supplement until then. Besides, i have money that is just frozen(i own stock but that stock is frozen for a while)
