Thread Rating:

steeldco
steeldco
Joined: Nov 30, 2011
  • Threads: 52
  • Posts: 4914
November 6th, 2013 at 10:35:31 AM permalink
Quote: speedycrap

The economy should be improving in second part of 2014 and in very good shape in 2016 just before election.



I hope you're right, but right now I believe that the worst is yet to come with an economy that's on life support. I would gladly be wrong but I think that the hammer falls Q3 of next year (my guess as to when QE winds down) and we will end up living thru a several year nightmare.
DO NOT blindly accept what has been spoken. DO NOT blindly accept what has been written. Think. Assess. Lead. DO NOT blindly follow.
speedycrap
speedycrap
Joined: Oct 13, 2013
  • Threads: 42
  • Posts: 1137
November 6th, 2013 at 10:38:22 AM permalink
QE would not suddenly wind down. It would only wind down when economy shows sign of life. And hopefully later part of next year.
steeldco
steeldco
Joined: Nov 30, 2011
  • Threads: 52
  • Posts: 4914
November 6th, 2013 at 10:52:03 AM permalink
I didn't say that it would suddenly wind down. Q3 is my SWAG as to when it begins. My problem is that the real estate market will not have improved sufficiently and everything will get pulled right back down with rising rates.
DO NOT blindly accept what has been spoken. DO NOT blindly accept what has been written. Think. Assess. Lead. DO NOT blindly follow.
s2dbaker
s2dbaker
Joined: Jun 10, 2010
  • Threads: 51
  • Posts: 3259
November 6th, 2013 at 11:08:20 AM permalink
Quote: steeldco

By 2016, the economy will probably be in the dumps. Therefore, Hillary has zero chance of winning. As a matter of fact, I don't think that the Democrats will nominate her. Christie will stand a better chance, but only if the extremists in the Republican party disappear. Most normal people do not want any part of the Tea Party goofs.

Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
steeldco
steeldco
Joined: Nov 30, 2011
  • Threads: 52
  • Posts: 4914
November 6th, 2013 at 11:23:29 AM permalink
Sorry but my belief is that the Republican party was associated with extremists despite what the Presidential candidate's view was. Nobody cares for the extremists. Hell, most people don't want change of ANY sort. The Republican just needs to wake up to have a chance.
DO NOT blindly accept what has been spoken. DO NOT blindly accept what has been written. Think. Assess. Lead. DO NOT blindly follow.
rxwine
rxwine
Joined: Feb 28, 2010
  • Threads: 166
  • Posts: 9657
November 6th, 2013 at 11:26:31 AM permalink
If the GOP takes the lesson that they need to go more right, they might want to consider the election outcome of a John Kerry against Romney or McCain. Who would call it better than even odds? (leaving out for a moment, McCain was pretty much sunk by the crash at the worst moment in his run) . Kerry would either lose or would only win by a hair, I suspect.

Okay, but that said, it probably will be Hillary for the Democrats, who is likely a stronger candidate than Kerry ever would be.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
speedycrap
speedycrap
Joined: Oct 13, 2013
  • Threads: 42
  • Posts: 1137
November 6th, 2013 at 11:28:17 AM permalink
Quote: steeldco

Sorry but my belief is that the Republican party was associated with extremists despite what the Presidential candidate's view was. Nobody cares for the extremists. Hell, most people don't want change of ANY sort. The Republican just needs to wake up to have a chance.


I fully agree the EXTREMISTS part. We are all moderate. We don't want sudden or drastic change under any, I mean any reason or excuse.
thecesspit
thecesspit
Joined: Apr 19, 2010
  • Threads: 53
  • Posts: 5936
November 6th, 2013 at 11:37:21 AM permalink
If the polls are right, 20% of American agree/side with the Tea Party. The same numbers that will call themselves 'liberals'.

The Reps would be best to stand a Tea Party candidate in the next election. It doesn't matter if the candidate loses. It moves the window of the debate to the right, which helps the Republicans overall. The Republicans keep fighting the election on the Democrats terms. Which, well, they seem to be bad at doing.

Might be the media bias, or might be moderate Republicans don't delineate themselves from their opposition in a way that gets votes.

My belief is it's the latter.

The Tea Party does have the huge problem of some elements on the Rep-right wanting to add moral outrage to everything. That won't fly to get swing voters. But the ten point economic pledge plan might. It's their best hope.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
AcesAndEights
AcesAndEights
Joined: Jan 5, 2012
  • Threads: 67
  • Posts: 4298
November 6th, 2013 at 11:56:05 AM permalink
My only question is who the Libertarian party is going to throw up there this time, and if they can get more than 1% of the popular vote. I really was hoping Gary Johnson would reach the 2-3% range, and he came in with 0.99%.

If we manage to break the two-party hegemony in my lifetime, I'll be ecstatic. Although with the winner-take-all system in the US, it will just be 2 different parties. The only question is who is going to succeed the GOP.
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
s2dbaker
s2dbaker
Joined: Jun 10, 2010
  • Threads: 51
  • Posts: 3259
November 6th, 2013 at 12:04:51 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

The Reps would be best to stand a Tea Party candidate in the next election. It doesn't matter if the candidate loses.

I like this strategy. More please!!
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez

  • Jump to: