2016 Election

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Quote: Boz

I still feel it is a lost cause because there will be such a groundswell of support from the media to elect the first female President...

Totally agree.

The Democrat candidate has only one opponent to beat: the Republican. OTOH, the Republican has THREE opponents: the Democrat candidate, the Hollywood elite, and the mainstream media.

Not even Ronald Reagan would be able to overcome these 3 obstacles.

The GOP has at least a couple very well-credentialed female candidates for 2016. What does it say when you conservative men can't see far enough to even consider that the GOP may nominate a female themselves?

What does it say when you conservative men can't see far enough to even consider that the GOP may nominate a female themselves?
As you say THEY are conservative MAN. They don't want a female president!!!!!!!!!!

Jeezis. Almost 3 years of nonstop bickering about the election and who's gonna win, and not one mention of rdw getting the nod?

For shame.

Have faith rdw, I'll write you in. Just remember to appoint me to the Ministry of Keepin' It Real ;)

I personally don't think last night was a very good night for Chris Christie. Yes he won re-election by 20-some points in a blue state and that in itself is impressive. But on the national level, Christie needs to convince his own party that he can do so at a national level. A party that sees him as too moderate. Prior to last night, I thought his biggest selling point in being the republican presidential candidate was that he might be able to win New Jersey, a solid blue state in presidential elections. Flip those 15 electorial votes for a 30 votes swing. In addition, just maybe his appeal spills over to southeast Pa, the Philly suburbs and puts Pennsylvania in play.

But yesterday's exit polls tell a different story. On a day that Christie was at a high point as far as his popularity because of his handling of things since the superstorn Sandy, the exit poll in New Jersey show him losing to Hilary by 6 points. In other words, the very people that were voting big for him, answered that they would not vote for him to be president. And this is before anyone has even laid a glove on him. That is a real bad thing for Christie.

But on a positive note, and something I didn't see mentioned on any network coverage, Mr Christie looked really good. He has lost at least 40 pounds since his weight loss procedure earlier this year. A little hard to tell, because it is hard to tell on big people, until they lose a huge amount of weight. But if you look at pictures of him last night vs pics from a year ago, you will see it. He still has much to lose, but I congratulate him on his effort so far. (Which I beleive is also mostly about running for president).

The republicans, fueled by tea party may talk about putting up a tea party or far right guy like Cruz or Paul, but in the end if they want any real shot at winning, they have to put up someone more moderate that can win some of the moderate and independent vote. Someone LIKE a Christie, but I don't think it will be Christie. I think it will be Jeb Bush. A guy that would actually flip his home state for republicans.

Quote: speedycrap

You are a big and serious gambler. I was thinking maybe $10.
Hillary cost me $20-30 last election. I bet her over him and I lost. I thought America was ready for a female president plus Bill was big help for her. Why? Bill was leaving her alone at night so she could concentrate on more serious political issues.
Also, I thought America would be ready for a black president AFTER a female president.
I think America mixes up the order. I am with you and I will bet Hillary to win 2016 against anyone. I will bet big this time, $50 US, settle through paypal or mail. I am in Canada but will cross the border to mail the CASH.
any taker?????

The analysis at the time if I have this right is that Bill advised her to establish her legacy at State and then run in 2016. How'd that first part work out for her...?

As a Democrat who will be voting for Hillary, should she run, I fear Chris Christie the most out of all the potential Republicans. I feel like he has the best chance of actually winning.

Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, etc. will never be President. Period.

However, Chris Christie will never get through the Tea Party-infused Republican primary process/sideshow.

And even if he does, Chris Christie is not without skeletons in his closet.

From the book Double Down, about the 2012 election:

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Ted Newton, managing Project Goldfish under Myers, had come into the vet liking Christie for his brashness and straight talk. Now, surveying the sum and substance of what the team was finding, Newton told his colleagues, If Christie had been in the nomination fight against us, we would have destroyed him—he wouldn’t be able to run for governor again. When you look below the surface, Newton said, it’s not pretty.

(Project Goldfish was the codename given to the process of vetting potential VPs)

Oh no, another Bush, another war!!!!!??????

Quote: chickenman

The analysis at the time if I have this right is that Bill advised her to establish her legacy at State and then run in 2016. How'd that first part work out for her...?

The catch phrase was "Bill was leaving her alone at night" Bill was BANGING some other WOMEEEEN.
I am sorry, I should not tell a joke here. This is too serious for me.
I will stick to my point, $50, any taker????

Jesse Ventura via chair shots.

Exit polling in New Jersey shows that Christie would lose New Jersey in 2016. The very same people who just gave pufferfish a 20 point victory for Governor would rather have Hillary as President.