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Ibeatyouraces
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September 9th, 2015 at 11:22:30 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

I see Republican presidential candidates Cruz, Huck, Jindal and Santorum getting behind Kim Davis.
Pretty sad these guys cant figure out separation of state and religion.
Donald Trump is a breath of honest fresh air.
His view is Kim Davis needs to find another job :-)
Go Donald

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/donald-trump-rips-bill-o-reilly-bad-researchers-153218611.html


I'm sure all four of her marriages were to relatives also!
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AZDuffman
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September 9th, 2015 at 11:34:32 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

I see Republican presidential candidates Cruz, Huck, Jindal and Santorum getting behind Kim Davis.
Pretty sad these guys cant figure out separation of state and religion.



I have to wonder what the difference in liberal opinion and media coverage would be if she were muslim.
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Ibeatyouraces
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September 9th, 2015 at 11:43:02 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I have to wonder what the difference in liberal opinion and media coverage would be if she were muslim.


The "media" needs to keep their opinions to themselves and just report news like they're supposed to.
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SteveButte
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September 9th, 2015 at 11:47:19 AM permalink
I'm new to this forum and I'm going to go ahead an assume I'm the only Marxist here. I think it's also safe to assume that I'm the only Marxist who enjoys gambling. This thread seemed like the appropriate place to "out" my politics. I assume it will cause a pile on from both Liberals and Conservatives on here but I hope it might make for good fodder for debate. That said, (most) Marxists/Anarchists/Communists view the electoral process as stage managed political theater orchestrated by the ruling class and thus reject it outright as farce. And in case anyone is wondering, no, Obama is not a Marxist - not even close. Neither is Bernie Sanders for that matter.
rxwine
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September 9th, 2015 at 12:18:27 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I recognize it. I am a master of it. However, that line is old and is not sarcasm but rather a faulty analogy.



It would be a faulty analogy if it was not sarcasm, which is exactly why it's sarcasm.

And the following was also sarcasm

http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/15693-2016-election/208/#post465693
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EvenBob
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September 9th, 2015 at 12:26:37 PM permalink
Now Hillary is losing MSNBC? This is just too
good.

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September 9th, 2015 at 12:26:51 PM permalink
Quote: SteveButte

I'm new to this forum and I'm going to go ahead an assume I'm the only Marxist here.



There's at least one Anarchist here, and some of my own views I would describe as "Anarchist-lite". I look forward to you stirring the pot and hearing something other than typical Right/Left jabbering.
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SteveButte
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September 9th, 2015 at 12:51:10 PM permalink
Quote: Face

There's at least one Anarchist here, and some of my own views I would describe as "Anarchist-lite". I look forward to you stirring the pot and hearing something other than typical Right/Left jabbering.



I do like pot stirring! I used to be a Libertarian back in my 20's, now I'm a Red. One common misconception about Marxism/Communism is that we want a big, centralized gov't. While the attempts at Communist states devolved into this, eventually failed and mutated into weird hybrid Capitalist/Socialist/Authoritarian regimes, the actual goal of Marxism is to eliminate 'The State' completely, something we share with Libertarians, although coming from a different angle.

I'm genuinely curious as to why, if you don't have a substantial amount of money, anyone would believe that any of these candidates will represent your interests or the interests of the general population over the interests of the big banks and major industries.
rxwine
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September 9th, 2015 at 1:07:32 PM permalink
Quote: SteveButte

I'm genuinely curious as to why, if you don't have a substantial amount of money, anyone would believe that any of these candidates will represent your interests or the interests of the general population over the interests of the big banks and major industries.



Well, I do think the political profession does occasionally attract good people with good intentions. But even still it's always a mixed bag of opportunists, liars, hucksters, the power hungry, sleazy and a number of other possibilities. And there is pressure even on good people after they get in office.
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SteveButte
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September 9th, 2015 at 1:19:41 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Well, I do think the political profession does occasionally attract good people with good intentions. But even still it's always a mixed bag of opportunists, liars, hucksters, the power hungry, sleazy and a number of other possibilities. And there is pressure even on good people after they get in office.



I actually believe Sanders is sincere and has good intentions, but 1.) he in all likelihood won't get the nomination as we forget that the nominee isn't picked by the voters but by the party delegates and 2.) should he get the nomination the Democratic Party will make sure that he's in line with their agenda, i.e. the agenda of their corporate backers. This is the conundrum. The office of President of the United States is little more than a proxy for the ruling class to mouth their agenda to the lower classes and take the blame (well earned blame) for the men behind the machine. I'd rather break the machine at its roots than pin my hopes to a candidate who, even if well-intentioned, has no ability to significantly change things for the better.

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