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rxwine
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June 27th, 2015 at 12:15:31 AM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

That's not what I am getting at rx. I don't agree with racism, but I believe some stuff that is classified as racism truly isn't. For instance, i work at a car dealership, and I work with this African American gentleman, who I am great friends with outside of work BTW. I have fights with him because every time a customer doesn't like him, he claims it was because he is black. I tell him customers get mad at me and other people all the time, and it isn't because I am white and this person is Hispanic and what not. Different people have different personalities and different motivating factors and different things that speak to them. You have to identify them and work with/around them There are those that don't like him because he is black, and I don't like doing business with those guys, but for every 10 people that don't like him, the number that don't like him because he is black is between 0 and 1. A lot of my co-workers don't like working with Indians because of their reputation for being cheap. I personally like it, as many of them are my most loyal customers. They will make you work for their business but they will be loyal. Furthermore, when they bring other people with them it is a clear indication to me that they are buying or at least intending to buy. Different cultures come from different lands with different value systems. You can't treat everybody the same because most people won't respond to your particular value system. I have to be able to utilize my knowledge of many different cultures to move more product, and yes, I use stereotypes and prejudices to do so, and it works because knowledge is power in those instances. Some sales people, and I keep using Indians, and I apologize don't know how to handle the objection that they don't want to pay interest despite special financing on the car they want being 2.9% at the term they want. We offer them a buydown rate which offers them to pay the interest up front and make it look like on paper that they have a zero interest loan, nevermind that this practice puts them further in a negative equity position at the start.



I thought about your reply for awhile before responding. It's good that you have made an effort to respond correctly to your customers' desires and have succeeded.

I guess I will add some "food" for thought.

If I were sitting at a table with a Black guy, an Asian, and an Indian, (somewhat representative of your described customer base - I am white, btw), and you brought four dishes i.e.,1) cheese burger and fries, 2) noodle dish, 3) Fried chicken and black eyed peas, and 4) dish with curry, there is 1 in 4 chance on any given day, if you didn't ask me, you would get my order wrong.

Not sure when assumptions get into racism, but they can. Many aren't a big deal. Some are. Like I said, not much, just food for thought.
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June 27th, 2015 at 1:36:51 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Public opinion will be easier to sway because many folks like myself know the USA lost the battle today and say who cares.
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Yup, in spades. But it's not important who
marries who, never was. It's the divorce
that's important.
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terapined
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June 27th, 2015 at 5:48:35 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

It will probably be 5-10 years..



2003 9 of 13 provinces and territories in Canada same sex marriage legal.
2005 became legal in the entire country.
10 or more years in Canada and no legal polygamy.
Aint happening there
Aint happening here.
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June 27th, 2015 at 6:14:03 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

2003 9 of 13 provinces and territories in Canada same sex marriage legal.
2005 became legal in the entire country.
10 or more years in Canada and no legal polygamy.
Aint happening there
Aint happening here.



The USA is not Canada. The SCOCA did not make a ruling. Not a valid comparison.

Anyways, why are you down on polygamy? Are you against equality?
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TwoFeathersATL
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June 27th, 2015 at 7:49:48 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

The USA is not Canada. The SCOCA did not make a ruling. Not a valid comparison.

Anyways, why are you down on polygamy? Are you against equality?


Good question. Several have stated polygamy doesn't have a chance, along with several other ideas. But polygamy in particular, I think I hear a collective opinion that it is bad, repulsive perhaps? A crime against God and all normal social conventions? I would ask a question in general to those that have said, "now that's a whole different thing". What makes it different, and what makes it bad? I'm not being facetious. I don't know the historical objection to polygamy in most of 'Western Society'. What are the negatives? I will do some research on my own of the history, but for anyone that has implied they think it is bad, why do you have negative feelings about polygamy? Serious question.

As an aside, and less serious, my first thought might be it would be a shame if the rich guys could just buy up all the women!
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June 27th, 2015 at 8:19:01 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

2003 9 of 13 provinces and territories in Canada same sex marriage legal.
2005 became legal in the entire country.
10 or more years in Canada and no legal polygamy.
Aint happening there
Aint happening here.



What gives bigots like you the right to tell 2 people who love each other they can't get married?
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June 27th, 2015 at 8:21:09 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

So now that you get what you want,
others who have issues can pound sand?
There are serious polygamists out there
and they will be heard. As they should be.



and the bigoted Left, which started the laws against polygamy will continue to keep their nose firmly in other people's bedrooms.
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June 27th, 2015 at 8:24:44 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

The USA is not Canada. The SCOCA did not make a ruling. Not a valid comparison.

Anyways, why are you down on polygamy? Are you against equality?



Uh, he's a leftist Democrat so of course he's against equality. The party of slavery and Jim Crow now survives on school and employment discrimination against whites and Asians on behalf of their "base".
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June 27th, 2015 at 9:11:05 AM permalink
Quote: TwoFeathersATL

. I don't know the historical objection to polygamy in most of 'Western Society'. What are the negatives? I will do some research on my own of the history, but for anyone that has implied they think it is bad, why do you have negative feelings about polygamy? Serious question.



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Quote: bobsims

Uh, he's a leftist Democrat so of course he's against equality. The party of slavery and Jim Crow now survives on school and employment discrimination against whites and Asians on behalf of their "base".



Huh?
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June 27th, 2015 at 9:41:44 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

2003 9 of 13 provinces and territories in Canada same sex marriage legal.
2005 became legal in the entire country.
10 or more years in Canada and no legal polygamy.
Aint happening there
Aint happening here.



Because this country is filled with people who don't care about others making themselves happy when it doesn't affect them. Oh wait, never mind.

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