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SanchoPanza
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June 25th, 2015 at 8:00:47 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph


For the right price she will wear a confederate flag to the presentation. Don't you wonder who Kimmy will vote for?

Err, how big will it be and where will it rest?
petroglyph
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June 25th, 2015 at 8:30:25 PM permalink
Sorry the photo is so big, I didn't know how to downsize it.

It just gets me, they could ask Mike for an opinion, but instead ask this "star". Sheesh.

The Trans Pacific Trade deal passed almost without acknowledgement, a treaty which will effect the country. It amazes me that something like that goes by while the country is distracted by the flag issue, and then this?
kewlj
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June 26th, 2015 at 9:33:04 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

My prediction on gay marraige supreme court ruling.
9-0
Yup, you heard it here 1st.
Its about legacy.



I was wrong in expecting a ruling in the 6-3 or 7-2 range with a couple conservative justices protecting their legacy from hindsight, but YOU my friend, were way off. Lol.
terapined
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June 26th, 2015 at 9:38:46 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I was wrong in expecting a ruling in the 6-3 or 7-2 range with a couple conservative justices protecting their legacy from hindsight, but YOU my friend, were way off. Lol.



I was way off.
It was close which is scary.
Regardless, thrilled with the decison.
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kewlj
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June 26th, 2015 at 9:47:01 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

I was way off.
It was close which is scary.
Regardless, thrilled with the decison.



It was going to be close no matter what. Even if one or two of the conservative justices threw in with the majority, they would have only done so after it was apparent what they ruling would be. Justice Kennedy was always going to be the 'deciding' vote, as he is in many instances.

Talk about power. Justice Kennedy is arguably the most powerful man in the world. That too seems problematic, not specifically to this case but in general. But I guess that's our system. Ultimately someone has to make the big decisions. :/
AZDuffman
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June 26th, 2015 at 9:52:47 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

I was way off.
It was close which is scary.
Regardless, thrilled with the decison.



I am sure you are, but as the man said, "be careful what you wish for."

It is now legal for a man to marry two women and them to marry each other for a Social Security survivor benefits bonanza. Polygamy is now legal. Child brides are now legal. There is no legal way to define marriage. With this kind of a ruling it is all wide open.

The second issue is that the SCOTUS has lowered the bar to "finding rights." 150 years and nobody found this right in the 14th Amendment until today. The question is what will be next? It will take years to understand.

The only bright spot is now the left has one less thing to attack conservatives on in 2016 and in 2017 POTUS Walker can deal with something new.
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bobsims
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June 26th, 2015 at 10:49:28 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

It was going to be close no matter what. Even if one or two of the conservative justices threw in with the majority, they would have only done so after it was apparent what they ruling would be. Justice Kennedy was always going to be the 'deciding' vote, as he is in many instances.

Talk about power. Justice Kennedy is arguably the most powerful man in the world. That too seems problematic, not specifically to this case but in general. But I guess that's our system. Ultimately someone has to make the big decisions. :/



Actually that is NOT the system. They get away with it because elected officials allow it. Andy Jackson didn't tolerate it. No way should 5 rich Ivy leftists decide every thing in the country.
ams288
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June 26th, 2015 at 12:24:26 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Polygamy is now legal. Child brides are now legal. There is no legal way to define marriage. With this kind of a ruling it is all wide open.



Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

I get immense pleasure from how wrong you are. :)
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AZDuffman
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June 26th, 2015 at 12:47:05 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

I get immense pleasure from how wrong you are. :)



How am I wrong? It was found unconstitutional to "limit" marriage. It is now all wide open. Might take a court case if some bigot at the courthouse decides marriage is only two people, but there are now no constitutional limits. Equal Protection clause applies to all.
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EvenBob
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June 26th, 2015 at 1:22:50 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

How am I wrong? It was found unconstitutional to "limit" marriage. It is now all wide open. .



Of course you are correct. I could marry
my dog now if I liked. And it will create
havoc in SS, you'll have couples marrying
each other for the increased benefits.
One can of worms closed and another opened.

They couldn't just single out Gays, that would
be discriminatory. The ruling has to include
anybody who wants to marry anything.
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