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MichaelBluejay
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February 17th, 2016 at 7:46:55 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Remember how the press went
nuts over this one poll and said it was
over for Trump?

No, I don't. You don't have any actual examples, do you?
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February 17th, 2016 at 10:11:51 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

No, I don't. You don't have any actual examples, do you?



I'm dropping everything to get right on that.
(first I have to replace all the squiggle bulbs
in my house with 100W incandescents I found at
the dollar store. Dang that global cooling)
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February 17th, 2016 at 10:24:22 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

No, I don't. You don't have any actual examples, do you?



More help for the search-engine-impaired (We will be asking all search engines to include algorithms so that geeks can deal with them):

cnn

and

“Did Trump decline because of the debate or had he already declined beforehand and actually came back a bit afterward thanks to his performance?
Either way, it’s harder this morning to argue that that NYT/CBS bombshell last week showingCarson ahead of Trump for the first time nationally was an outlier. NYT/CBS had him ahead 26/22; WSJ/NBC has it 29/23. And even that margin understates how well Carson is doing at the moment. When you combine Republican voters’ first and second choice, Trump’s suddenly behind by 15 points.

“That’s the first time any Republican has cracked 50 percent combined in one of WSJ/NBC’s polls. Note the trend lines too. Rubio jumped from 16 to 26 percent between July and September; Ted Cruz jumped from 17 to 23 percent in just a few weeks last month; and Carson has built on his support steadily in every poll since June. Trump, however, has been stuck in the 30th percentile since his campaign took off this summer and dropped more than even Rubio did in the course of October. If you’re looking for an argument that he’s plateaued for now, there’s your data.” —wordpress
rxwine
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February 18th, 2016 at 12:12:52 AM permalink
Looks like dirt on Trump.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/17/donald-trump-s-hundreds-of-9-11-lies.html

This is also why if I read his books, I'd be wondering about the narrative quite a bit -- as to what he says happened vs. what might have happened.
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February 18th, 2016 at 12:46:42 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Looks like dirt on Trump.



Nah. I have no doubt that as a lifetine
New Yorker who's been involved with
hundreds and hundreds of other New
Yorkers for the past 40 years, he did
know a couple hundred who died in
the towers. Were they his friends?
In business, we often call associates
'friends', when they are just people
we know. That's what he means.
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February 18th, 2016 at 7:21:57 AM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

More help for the search-engine-impaired (We will be asking all search engines to include algorithms so that geeks can deal with them)

You think you might try to make your arguments without the insults?

In any event, neither of the articles you posted supports EvenBob's assertion, not by a longshot. EvenBob said:

Quote: EvenBob

Remember how the press went nuts over this one poll and said it was over for Trump?

In neither article did the press "go nuts" or "say it was over for Trump". The CNN article merely reported the results of the poll. It used such hyperbolic language as:

"A CBS/New York Times poll released last week also found Carson ahead of Trump, knocking the real estate mogul off the first-place perch for the first time in months."

That's not even close to "going nuts" or "say[ing] it was over for Trump".

Your second "source" is a WordPress blog. Seriously, that counts as "the press" to you?!

And even the WordPress blog didn't say it was over for Trump, anyway.

Your sources were this weak, and you still felt a need to insult me for supposedly not knowing how to use search engines? Let me repeat: You can't find something in a search engine that's not there. That's why when EvenBob et al propose something contrary to reality, I ask the *poster* for evidence, knowing full well that there isn't any. It's certainly not my fault that such non-existent evidence can't be found in the search engines. And if you or others insist that such evidence does indeed exist, then the onus is on you to present it. In this instance, all you've got is a CNN article that doesn't support what EvenBob said, and a WordPress blog (!) which disqualifies itself automatically. In other words, you've got nothing.
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February 18th, 2016 at 8:05:18 AM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

You think you might try to make your arguments without the insults?

In any event, neither of the articles you posted supports EvenBob's assertion, not by a longshot. EvenBob said:

In neither article did the press "go nuts" or "say it was over for Trump". The CNN article merely reported the results of the poll. It used such hyperbolic language as:

"A CBS/New York Times poll released last week also found Carson ahead of Trump, knocking the real estate mogul off the first-place perch for the first time in months."

That's not even close to "going nuts" or "say[ing] it was over for Trump".

Your second "source" is a WordPress blog. Seriously, that counts as "the press" to you?!

And even the WordPress blog didn't say it was over for Trump, anyway.

Your sources were this weak, and you still felt a need to insult me for supposedly not knowing how to use search engines? Let me repeat: You can't find something in a search engine that's not there. That's why when EvenBob et al propose something contrary to reality, I ask the *poster* for evidence, knowing full well that there isn't any. It's certainly not my fault that such non-existent evidence can't be found in the search engines. And if you or others insist that such evidence does indeed exist, then the onus is on you to present it. In this instance, all you've got is a CNN article that doesn't support what EvenBob said, and a WordPress blog (!) which disqualifies itself automatically. In other words, you've got nothing.

Are you just looking for a fight there buddy? Sounded like it to me. It is an election, they happen all the time, some big some small. Referring back to some advice I gave to AoS some months ago, maybe a a couple of deep breaths would be good for you too...
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
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February 18th, 2016 at 10:26:08 AM permalink
Campaigns secretly prep for brokered GOP convention

Getting the popcorn ready...
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February 18th, 2016 at 10:35:38 AM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

You think you might try to make your arguments without the insults?

Requesting cites while not offering any generates responses, whether they agree with the pronounced viewpoint or not. Repeatedly doing so, and comping mostly from one political view, merits repeated responses.
Quote: Michael Bluejay

In any event, neither of the articles you posted supports EvenBob's assertion, not by a longshot.

We can understand that differences in perspectives, viewpoints and opinions are difficult to consume, not to mention appreciate.
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February 18th, 2016 at 11:26:43 AM permalink
The WSJ is owned by Murdoch, that explains a lot.
These are the most recent national polls, the new
CBS poll is in line with the others. WSJ is obviously
a con job.

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February 18th, 2016 at 11:33:07 AM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay



That's not even close to "going nuts" or "say[ing] it was over for Trump".



I'd reply but I'm making my own ground
beef for some grilled burgers later. I like
em bloody rare, doesn't everybody?
Grinding the beef yourself makes all the
difference.
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February 18th, 2016 at 11:39:46 AM permalink
Move over Megyn Kelly, Donald Trump has a new mortal enemy: the Pope!

You can't make this stuff up...
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February 18th, 2016 at 11:42:27 AM permalink
Quote:

- FEBRUARY 18, 2016 -

​DONALD J. TRUMP RESPONSE TO THE POPE

If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS’s ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the Pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been President because this would not have happened. ISIS would have been eradicated unlike what is happening now with our all talk, no action politicians.

The Mexican government and its leadership has made many disparaging remarks about me to the Pope, because they want to continue to rip off the United States, both on trade and at the border, and they understand I am totally wise to them. The Pope only heard one side of the story - he didn’t see the crime, the drug trafficking and the negative economic impact the current policies have on the United States. He doesn’t see how Mexican leadership is outsmarting President Obama and our leadership in every aspect of negotiation.

For a religious leader to question a person’s faith is disgraceful. I am proud to be a Christian and as President I will not allow Christianity to be consistently attacked and weakened, unlike what is happening now, with our current President. No leader, especially a religious leader, should have the right to question another man’s religion or faith. They are using the Pope as a pawn and they should be ashamed of themselves for doing so, especially when so many lives are involved and when illegal immigration is so rampant.



As always, it's the Mexicans' fault!
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February 18th, 2016 at 11:44:53 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Move over Megyn Kelly, Donald Trump has a new mortal enemy: the Pope!

You can't make this stuff up...



I wonder when the pope is going to tear
down the wall around the Vatican. It's
there to keep everybody out, just like
the wall he doesn't like on our border.
Just another religious hypocrite.
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terapined
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February 18th, 2016 at 12:19:05 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Move over Megyn Kelly, Donald Trump has a new mortal enemy: the Pope!

You can't make this stuff up...



The Pope is right regarding Trump
I would actually take it a step further
Many conservative so called christians in my view are not really christians as taught by Jesus
Jesus taught love and forgiveness
Many so called conservative christians instead teach the opposite, hate and discrimination.
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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February 18th, 2016 at 12:57:53 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I wonder when the pope is going to tear down the wall around the Vatican. It's there to keep everybody out, just like the wall he doesn't like on our border. Just another religious hypocrite.

Finished grinding already? Got to be the fastest in the business.
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February 18th, 2016 at 1:25:28 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

Requesting cites while not offering any...

Like I said, I can't cite what doesn't exist. For that matter, neither can you. Which is the point.


Quote: SanchoPanza

We can understand that differences in perspectives, viewpoints and opinions are difficult to consume, not to mention appreciate.

Whatever. The bottom line is, to support EvenBob's assertion that "the press went nuts", "say[ing] it was over for Trump", you cited a blog post (as though that counts as "the press") and a CNN article that did *not* support EvenBob's statement. In other words, you've got nothing. Trying to insult me doesn't change the fact that neither of you has any actual evidence.
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February 18th, 2016 at 1:47:40 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

neither of you has any actual evidence.



I got sidetracked by my top loading 20
year old washer, so I haven't been able
to look it up yet.
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February 18th, 2016 at 4:37:58 PM permalink
Dem washers are a bitch when they don't work right. Or was it left?
Washers need to wash, forget the left part ;-)
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February 18th, 2016 at 4:46:34 PM permalink
Hilary going hard on the commercials here.
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
EvenBob
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February 18th, 2016 at 5:49:16 PM permalink
It's been 70 days since Hillary had a press conference
or even answered questions from the press people
on her plane. I think this is the reason why:

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TwoFeathersATL
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February 18th, 2016 at 6:05:34 PM permalink
She can't even bark like a dog.
Candidates should be able to bark like a real dog, or they shouldn't bark at all.
If I had a dog that barked like that I'd trade it in....
But I'm on the other side.
Maybe a barking contest is in order.......
Are there any decent Republican dog barkers out there?
It has been a weird cycle, it could get weirder yet.....
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February 18th, 2016 at 7:19:37 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It's been 70 days since Hillary had a press conference
or even answered questions from the press people
on her plane. I think this is the reason why:



I'm more of a Howard Dean scream fan myself

"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
HowMany
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February 19th, 2016 at 6:13:09 AM permalink
Here's what we know about Hillary and Bern so far . . .

1) Hillary barks like a dog.

2) Bern said Global Warming causes terrorism.

3) Hillary takes a massive dump when she should've been on the debate stage.

Can't wait to see what the next 7+ months have in store.
Last edited by: HowMany on Feb 19, 2016
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February 19th, 2016 at 7:03:27 AM permalink
Quote: HowMany

3) Hillary takes a massive dump when she should've been on the debate stage.



Just out of curiosity, how do you know it was a "massive dump" and not a normal-sized one?
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February 19th, 2016 at 7:43:57 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Just out of curiosity, how do you know it was a "massive dump" and not a normal-sized one?




Maybe she was constipated?
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February 19th, 2016 at 7:50:02 AM permalink
Quote: HeySlick

Maybe she was constipated?


A politician full of $#!#?? Say it ain't so!!!
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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February 19th, 2016 at 11:54:15 AM permalink
Quote: HowMany



3) Hillary takes a massive dump when she should've been on the debate stage.
.



No, that's not what happened. People who were
backstage say she sat in a chair for 5 min because
she was dizzy and disoriented. One of the top
neuro doctors in the country says she has all the
indications of problems from the concussion she
got in 2012. The dizzy spells, the prism glasses
she wears a lot because she has double vision, the
confusion she sometimes exhibits behind the scenes.
She's a medical basket case.
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ams288
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February 19th, 2016 at 12:36:44 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

No, that's not what happened. People who were
backstage say she sat in a chair for 5 min because
she was dizzy and disoriented.



Source?

*anxiously awaits some right-wing blog post as proof*
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MichaelBluejay
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February 19th, 2016 at 1:08:34 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Source?



Let me just finish that for you:

EvenBob: Here I make some bizarre claim that either nobody's ever heard before, or which is popular only in right-wing conspiracy circles.

ams288 or MichaelBluejay: Source?

(some right-winger): Typical liberal, expecting others to do your work for you.

EvenBob: Here's a video of Hillary barking! Posting it makes me look clever, so I'll keep posting it repeatedly!

SanchoPanza: Liberals are too stupid to use search engines. Here are two links proving what EvenBob said is true, even though neither of them actually supports what he said, and one of them is from some WordPress blog written by a nobody.

EvenBob: I'm off to go waste some energy and/or eat meat, because I think that annoys MichaelBluejay and makes me look clever! That's why I make that kind of statement so frequently! Oh, and here's the video of Hillary barking again!
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February 19th, 2016 at 1:28:11 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

Let me just finish that for you:

EvenBob: Here I make some bizarre claim that either nobody's ever heard before, or which is popular only in right-wing conspiracy circles.

ams288 or MichaelBluejay: Source?

(some right-winger): Typical liberal, expecting others to do your work for you.

EvenBob: Here's a video of Hillary barking! Posting it makes me look clever, so I'll keep posting it repeatedly!

SanchoPanza: Liberals are too stupid to use search engines. Here are two links proving what EvenBob said is true, even though neither of them actually supports what he said, and one of them is from some WordPress blog written by a nobody.

EvenBob: I'm off to go waste some energy and/or eat meat, because I think that annoys MichaelBluejay and makes me look clever! That's why I make that kind of statement so frequently! Oh, and here's the video of Hillary barking again!



+1
You nailed it
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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February 19th, 2016 at 1:47:43 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

Let me just finish that for you:

EvenBob: Here I make some bizarre claim that either nobody's ever heard before, or which is popular only in right-wing conspiracy circles.

ams288 or MichaelBluejay: Source?

(some right-winger): Typical liberal, expecting others to do your work for you.

EvenBob: Here's a video of Hillary barking! Posting it makes me look clever, so I'll keep posting it repeatedly!

SanchoPanza: Liberals are too stupid to use search engines. Here are two links proving what EvenBob said is true, even though neither of them actually supports what he said, and one of them is from some WordPress blog written by a nobody.

EvenBob: I'm off to go waste some energy and/or eat meat, because I think that annoys MichaelBluejay and makes me look clever! That's why I make that kind of statement so frequently! Oh, and here's the video of Hillary barking again!



This post should be framed and put on everyone's wall.
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February 19th, 2016 at 1:55:00 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay


EvenBob: I'm off to go waste some energy and/or eat meat, because I think that annoys MichaelBluejay and makes me look clever! That's why I make that kind of statement so frequently!


How do you 'waste' something the power
company wants you to use as much as you
can of? I pay for it, I can use it any way I
wish. I have four lights in my house that
have been on 24/7 for 20 years. I eat meat
every day because it's good for you, tastes
great, and my teeth are designed for it. I'm
having chicken tacos for dinner, yum.
Quote:

Oh, and here's the video of Hillary barking again!


Here it is, the most requested video of the
week, the gift from Hillary that keeps on
giving. (there's one that is looped so
she's barking for 5min. Though hilarious,
it's overkill, I think.)

Last edited by: EvenBob on Feb 19, 2016
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February 19th, 2016 at 2:16:08 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

SanchoPanza: Liberals are too stupid to use search engines. Here are two links proving what EvenBob said is true, even though neither of them actually supports what he said, and one of them is from some WordPress blog written by a nobody.!

Seeing as how you insist on putting words into people's mouths, let me clarify errors here. Stupid? Maybe or maybe not. Lazy? Repeatedly. As shown by the apparent failure to view the Zeleny video before it was pulled. That was in addition to CNN's failure to reflect the content of the video in the accompanying text. That was the purpose of not even excerpting the useless text and trying to send readers directly to the video. The expectation was that innate curiosity would inspire viewing the video. Especially before CNN pulled it or censored it just after the discussion began here.
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February 19th, 2016 at 2:19:54 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Here it is, the most requested video of the week, the gift from Hillary that keeps on giving. (there's one that is looped so
she's barking for 5 min. Though hilarious, it's overkill, I think.)

Anything more than 5 seconds of it is unbearable.
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February 19th, 2016 at 2:47:32 PM permalink
I finally clicked on that Hillary barking video.

Seriously? That's what you're making such a big deal over?
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February 19th, 2016 at 3:05:47 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

I finally clicked on that Hillary barking video.

Seriously? That's what you're making such a big deal over?



It is pretty funny...as was the incredible amount of pandering during that town hall thing last night. They were trying to out pander each other, but watching for a bit actually did give me a better idea of each of their positions on some issues. Both of them want to spend all of those damn rich people's money but we all should know that once they get some from them, they will get some from all of us in the middle class, too. You can support them if you wish, just know that their money grab won't end with those evil rich folks.
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February 19th, 2016 at 3:12:17 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

I finally clicked on that Hillary barking video.

Seriously? That's what you're making such a big deal over?



Who's making a big deal. Don't you think
it's hilarious and makes her look even more
presidential? It's been used all over social
media, it's gone viral.
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February 19th, 2016 at 3:30:14 PM permalink
Well, it convinced me to update my sig, if nothing else.

Us Haterz gotta hate.
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February 19th, 2016 at 4:11:11 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

How do you 'waste' something the power company wants you to use as much as you can of? I pay for it, I can use it any way I wish. I have four lights in my house that have been on 24/7 for 20 years. I eat meat every day because it's good for you, tastes great, and my teeth are designed for it. I'm having chicken tacos for dinner, yum. Here it is, the most requested video of the week, the gift from Hillary that keeps on giving.

I rest my case.
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February 19th, 2016 at 4:39:29 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

I rest my case.



I'm very non 'green', I do everything old
school. I think the 'green' movement is
a colossal waste of time, it's much ado
about nothing.
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February 19th, 2016 at 4:55:38 PM permalink
Ah yes: "old fogey" vs. "young whippersnapper."

Society evolves with each new generation.

Same as it ever was.

Old folks resist change: youngsters embrace it.

Why?
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February 19th, 2016 at 7:59:33 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Just out of curiosity, how do you know it was a "massive dump" and not a normal-sized one?



Like Donald said, either way it was "Disgusting"!
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February 19th, 2016 at 8:05:37 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: MichaelBluejay


EvenBob: I'm off to go waste some energy and/or eat meat, because I think that annoys MichaelBluejay and makes me look clever! That's why I make that kind of statement so frequently!


How do you 'waste' something the power
company wants you to use as much as you
can of? I pay for it, I can use it any way I
wish. I have four lights in my house that
have been on 24/7 for 20 years. I eat meat
every day because it's good for you, tastes
great, and my teeth are designed for it. I'm
having chicken tacos for dinner, yum.]



Hey, I used to burn a case of foam takeouts on "Earth Day" every year just because I could. Open burning was legal where I lived and the case was under $10.00. My right and the black smoke was cool.
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February 19th, 2016 at 10:33:06 PM permalink
Subject perfect storms. Perfect storm - def. "a particularly bad or critical state of affairs, arising from a number of negative and unpredictable factors.'

Anyone familiar with the psychic who predicted Barrack Obama would be the last US President? Interesting, but whatever.

1. Remember the Gore/Bush election year?

2. Supreme Court is currently only with 8 members.

Yup, add 1 and 2 together -- part of a perfect storm situation if a ruling is needed.

Brokered conventions, third party runs. ...etc.,

Hmm. Just sayin'. Something to think about.
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February 20th, 2016 at 10:25:32 AM permalink
Trump just tweeted:

Quote:

I wonder if President Obama would have attended the funeral of Justice Scalia if it were held in a Mosque? Very sad that he did not go!



How Presidential of him!

Also, did Trump go?
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February 20th, 2016 at 10:55:59 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Trump just tweeted:

"I wonder if President Obama would have attended the funeral of Justice Scalia if it were held in a Mosque? Very sad that he did not go!"

How Presidential of him!

Also, did Trump go?



The President has the most important job in the world. His time is valuable
People that want to be President have no job they are currently doing.
Those that have jobs have abandoned them. Take Marco Rubio, the guy is hardly ever present for votes.
Cruz, his job is in DC but of course he is not in DC. Is Kasich in his state governing, of course not.
People that want to be President have tons of time on their hands and yet they cant make the time to attend a BS overpriced funeral that accomplishes nothing.
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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February 20th, 2016 at 11:01:09 AM permalink
IMO

If Justice Scalia were black/African American Obama would've been present. Americas first/black racist President and, SOO! many live in fear of this covert Muslim -- I'm not stymied by political correctness.


here's one link among dozens relating to my claim above

http://www.danielpipes.org/11952/obama-muslim-childhood
Last edited by: HeySlick on Feb 20, 2016
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February 20th, 2016 at 12:06:11 PM permalink
Quote: HeySlick

IMO

If Justice Scalia were black/African American Obama would've been present. Americas first/black racist President and, SOO! many live in fear of this covert Muslim -- I'm not stymied by political correctness.



Apparently PC is in the eyes of the beholder.

It's just as PC to show up at a funeral and pretend you respected the person, if you didn't.
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