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RonC
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November 8th, 2013 at 3:55:14 AM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Romney could not get away from Romney Care. Christie can win if he can get people to remember Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are just like the crazy uncle everybody has in his family tree.

And the Republican Party has to stop blaming the salesman and look at the product.



So Romney Care hurt Romney but Obamacare was no problem for Obama at the time of the election. Could it be that a lot of Republicans didn't want a Republican that acts a lot like a Democrat? I don't think the Republicans will ever win by taking a lot of Democrat votes--they will win by having a candidate that excites the party and gets everyone out to vote...and wins over a substantial bunch of independents.

The Republicans can win again but only if they take the offensive and stay on it throughout the election cycle. They have to not let abortion and gay marriage become the main issues. State your position on those issues but keep the debate on the really important things at the national level--the economy, Obamacare, foreign relations, the budget, immigration, government transparency, etc.--because trying to win social issues is not going to win the election; winning on things that will make the country better can win.

The only thing that can happen by having a moderate-liberal candidate like Christie is what has happened in recent elections with that type of candidate. He may even lead in the polls on a national level at some point, but everyone will not turn out for him on the conservative side and democrats will vote for democrats.

If the Republicans listen to what the Democrats tell them to do to win the election, they are once again doomed.
s2dbaker
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November 8th, 2013 at 4:18:36 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Lol, it must really gall you that o'Reilly has had the highest
rated news show on cable for 12 years straight. People
love to hate Bill. And his books are huge best sellers, every
one of them.

You would think that because your kind deals in conspiracy theories and projection but Elie Wiesel once said that the opposite of love is not hate, it is indifference. In that sense, I am the opposite of in love with Bill O'Reilly. Bill O'Reilly has a lot of success but that doesn't make him important to me. His success speaks volumes about those people who pay him any attention than about anything else.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
AZDuffman
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November 8th, 2013 at 4:23:27 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

You would think that because your kind deals in conspiracy theories and projection but Elie Wiesel once said that the opposite of love is not hate, it is indifference. In that sense, I am the opposite of in love with Bill O'Reilly. Bill O'Reilly has a lot of success but that doesn't make him important to me. His success speaks volumes about those people who pay him any attention than about anything else.



People watch him because he makes people give answers to what he has asked, not like most lamestream media reporters.

LSM Reporter: Mr POTUS, do you take any responsibility for the failed launch of your website?
Obama: Did I ever tell you that my favorite color is blue?
LSM: Really, when did you start liking blue? It doesn't have to do with blue states does it? giggle giggle giggle.



Bill O: Mr POTUS, do you take any responsibility for the failed launch of your website?
Obama: Did I ever tell you that my favorite color is blue?
Bill O: That's nice, mine is green. Now back to the failure of your website......
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Beethoven9th
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November 8th, 2013 at 5:01:12 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

You would think that because your kind deals in conspiracy theories...

What a crock...LOL!

Libs believe in all sorts of conspiracy theories from things like the Kennedy assassination to voter suppression of blacks in the last election. :D
Fighting BS one post at a time!
boymimbo
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November 8th, 2013 at 5:25:31 AM permalink
For the GOP to win in 2016, they have to bridge the gap between the moderates and the tea party, and then pick a candidate that can take a state or two that will tilt the election in their favor.

By 2016, the Obamacare fiasco should have played itself out, but the democrats will not really have a record to go on. The economy will still be a mess, and the country will be racking up huge deficits still. It should be a GOP victory unless they screw up, which is what is going to happen if the tea party and the moderates don't reconcile. If the GOP puts out a candidate too far to the right, it will turn off some of the Republican core, where as the tea party would NEVER vote for a Democrat. Hopefully, for the GOP, they put out a moderate candidate and then the tea party can do their work in the congress and senate. I think Chris Christie might be a good choice.

And EvenBob's right about Hillary. She may be well past prime, and age might be a factor.
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1arrowheaddr
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November 8th, 2013 at 6:40:55 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

This is a mostly liberal board so what can we do but keep on?



This is mostly a liberal board? Unless there is a large "silent majority" of liberals who never post on this board, I don't find it very liberal at all. I think this is the crux of the right's fascination with bias. The find it EVERYWHERE. I find this fear of media "bias" and the destructive nature of "Hollywood" and "elites" hilarious. Conservatives control the U.S. courts and before the 2006 mid-term election Republicans had held the House for 12 straight years, Senate for 10.5 of 12, and the presidency for all but 12 years since 1968, but it was the damn liberals elites and media bias ruining everything.
1arrowheaddr
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November 8th, 2013 at 6:42:39 AM permalink
I would point out that George W. Bush never admitted he was wrong about anything during his presidency either. They save that for the memoir.
s2dbaker
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November 8th, 2013 at 7:34:34 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

What a crock...LOL!

Have you heard that Vince Foster had found Barack Obama's long form Kenyan birth certificate and that's why Hillary Clinton had to strangle him with her bare hands in the White Water of Benghazi while wearing a fem looking marine hat.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
Buzzard
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November 8th, 2013 at 7:56:31 AM permalink
" bridge the gap between the moderates and the tea party " Easier to turn lead into gold. Imagine trying to muzzle Ted Cruz and his wacko followers.
Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet
AZDuffman
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November 8th, 2013 at 8:14:17 AM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

" bridge the gap between the moderates and the tea party " Easier to turn lead into gold. Imagine trying to muzzle Ted Cruz and his wacko followers.



Yeah, those people who believe in the Constitution and living within our means are just crazies. When will they come to their senses and just let government make the hard choices in their lives.
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