teliot
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January 20th, 2019 at 5:40:47 PM permalink
I retired from the casino business in 2017 and am finally disposing of various casino items I acquired. I purchased two lots of a collection of 700+ unique playing cards from a collector I met at the annual conference of the "Casino Chip and Collectible Show" back in about 2011, where I was a keynote speaker. This item is the totality of the collection.

I originally obtained this collection to help with my efforts at understanding "edge sorting" and the full scope of its vulnerability. When I worked with Phil Ivey as his expert witness, this collection was used to make the case to the judge of just how pervasive the problem of asymmetric cards is. Look up any of my articles on 888 (A.P. Heat) or YouTube videos on "edge sorting" and you are likely to see cards from this collection.

This collection consists of individual cards from hundreds of different casinos. Many of the cards are from casinos that no longer exist. Many of the casinos use cards that have a different design than the card in this collection. All of the cards are in used condition.

I just want this collection to find a good home with a collector who will appreciate what this is. I hope the pictures give a fair idea of what you're buying here.

Happy bidding.

http://ebay.us/9ONSIL
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January 20th, 2019 at 7:48:10 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

I retired from the casino business in 2017 and am finally disposing of various casino items I acquired. I purchased two lots of a collection of 700+ unique playing cards from a collector I met at the annual conference of the "Casino Chip and Collectible Show" back in about 2011, where I was a keynote speaker. This item is the totality of the collection.

I originally obtained this collection to help with my efforts at understanding "edge sorting" and the full scope of its vulnerability. When I worked with Phil Ivey as his expert witness, this collection was used to make the case to the judge of just how pervasive the problem of asymmetric cards is. Look up any of my articles on 888 (A.P. Heat) or YouTube videos on "edge sorting" and you are likely to see cards from this collection.

This collection consists of individual cards from hundreds of different casinos. Many of the cards are from casinos that no longer exist. Many of the casinos use cards that have a different design than the card in this collection. All of the cards are in used condition.

I just want this collection to find a good home with a collector who will appreciate what this is. I hope the pictures give a fair idea of what you're buying here.

Happy bidding.

http://ebay.us/9ONSIL



That would make a pretty great ManCave wall. Good luck with it!

Just to clarify, re- your 50 decks ebay item in the other thread. You said those decks are unverified - this collection did not grow by any of those others, if I understand you correctly. Just wondered, because I'm bidding on those, but don't have a ManCave for these.
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January 20th, 2019 at 8:07:37 PM permalink
Could I get regular media mail
shipping? That would be half
the shipping cost you're asking
for.
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January 20th, 2019 at 9:05:29 PM permalink
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That would make a pretty great ManCave wall. Good luck with it!

Just to clarify, re- your 50 decks ebay item in the other thread. You said those decks are unverified - this collection did not grow by any of those others, if I understand you correctly. Just wondered, because I'm bidding on those, but don't have a ManCave for these.

These are entirely separate collections. I got the decks one at a time. I got the single cards in two purchases of about individual 700 cards each.

Over the years I have definitely opened and showed a few of the 50 decks in my seminars. I used some of the decks to demonstrate various issues and techniques. I just can't remember which ones and I can't guarantee I got all the cards back into the box when I collected them. Hence a couple of extra decks should make it square. If I was a gambling person, I'd say 48+ out of the 50 are perfect, and maybe a couple are missing a card.
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January 21st, 2019 at 2:41:17 AM permalink
Am I allowed to use the forum as my own personal Ebay/craigslist as well?
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January 21st, 2019 at 5:43:36 AM permalink
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Am I allowed to use the forum as my own personal Ebay/craigslist as well?


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teliot
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January 21st, 2019 at 7:20:45 AM permalink
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Could I get regular media mail shipping?.

No. It's not "media" so sending it that way would entail committing fraud.

https://www.stamps.com/usps/media-mail/

"Media Mail is a cost-effective way to send media materials through the U.S. Postal Service. You can send books, videotapes, DVDs, CDs, printed music and other sound recordings through Media Mail as long as they weigh less than 70 pounds."
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January 21st, 2019 at 7:29:38 AM permalink
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No. It's not "media" so sending it that way would entail committing fraud.

https://www.stamps.com/usps/media-mail/

"Media Mail is a cost-effective way to send media materials through the U.S. Postal Service. You can send books, videotapes, DVDs, CDs, printed music and other sound recordings through Media Mail as long as they weigh less than 70 pounds."



Many ebayers get around that regulation by including a sheet of music in the package. That technically means you are sending the sheet music and using the playing cards as packing material. Media mail stinks, as it is subject to being opened anywhere along the way and PO employees aren't the best at resealing them. I've been fighting that for years.
A good alternative is to ship using Fed Ex Smart Post, but that involves the seller going to a Fed Ex office. For priority mail, the PO will come to you to pick it up.
teliot
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January 21st, 2019 at 7:54:05 AM permalink
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Many ebayers get around that regulation by including a sheet of music in the package.

Many ebayers commit mail fraud? What a surprise. :)

If I was seriously invested in ebay as a source of income, I would surely investigate alternatives. As it is, I'm just trying to dispose of corporate asserts that are cluttering my storage space.

Thanks & kind regards.
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January 21st, 2019 at 8:45:54 AM permalink
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Many ebayers commit mail fraud? What a surprise. :)

If I was seriously invested in ebay as a source of income, I would surely investigate alternatives. As it is, I'm just trying to dispose of corporate asserts that are cluttering my storage space.

Thanks & kind regards.




It isn't mail fraud. It is using the USPS's own rules to the letter of the law. Some argue that once something is eligible for media mail, you can include other items with it.
I don't subscribe to that, but some Post Offices accept it, others don't. I'm a comic book dealer. Postal regulations say a comic book that has advertising in it is not eligible for media mail, but one that doesn't contain advertising is. Can you tell if a comic book has ads or not?

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