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clarkacal
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January 19th, 2011 at 7:55:42 PM permalink
If your biggest pet peeve isn't listed please vote for the biggest one out of those listed and then reply with your actual biggest pet peeve.
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January 19th, 2011 at 8:04:42 PM permalink
None of the above. My tops would be things like table minimums above my comfort level, drunks and other obnoxious folks at the table polluting the game environment, the occasional surly crew, and (of course) the dice not behaving to my liking.
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January 19th, 2011 at 8:05:41 PM permalink
Losing.
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January 19th, 2011 at 8:06:46 PM permalink
Heck, a guy who switches from Wrong to Right when he himself is shooting is simply being courteous to the vast multitudes at the table who foolishly think his betting against himself will somehow make a difference. I stay on the DontPass when I shoot. And I ignore anyone who opens their yap about it.

My biggest pet peeve is losing.
Second pet peeve is loud raucous behavior.
Third is Dice Fondlers who want to go through various incantations and manipulations before they throw the darned things!
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January 19th, 2011 at 8:12:46 PM permalink
Late bettors.
The dice are in the center for six minutes, but as soon as the dice move - bang - four last minute prop bets are thrown in over the moving dice.
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January 19th, 2011 at 8:21:45 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Heck, a guy who switches from Wrong to Right when he himself is shooting is simply being courteous to the vast multitudes at the table who foolishly think his betting against himself will somehow make a difference. I stay on the DontPass when I shoot. And I ignore anyone who opens their yap about it.



Have to disagree with you there. Maybe that's why you would switch but I bet 95% of don't bettors who switch to pass when they shoot are in essence saying "screw you goofballs and everybody else, now watch how it's done."
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January 19th, 2011 at 9:07:40 PM permalink
Quote: clarkacal

If your biggest pet peeve isn't listed please vote for the biggest one out of those listed and then reply with your actual biggest pet peeve.



My biggest pet peeve would actually be players who seem to try and knock as many stack over with the dice as possible. I don't know if they are oblivious or what, but lots of open table and dice flying into cheques.
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January 19th, 2011 at 9:16:31 PM permalink
I'd say my pet peeve is a cross between the suits complaining about how you roll and people stacking chips right in the path of where the dice is being thrown. That and people jumping over your shoulders to place a bet at a full table. Always feel like I'm going to get robbed on the spot when someone does that. Don't step on the shooter's toes and don't step on mine either!
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January 19th, 2011 at 9:36:29 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

My biggest pet peeve would actually be players who seem to try and knock as many stack over with the dice as possible. I don't know if they are oblivious or what, but lots of open table and dice flying into cheques.

From the other perspective, you just reminded me of another of my peeves: a crowded table with so many chips in play that I can't find a place to throw the dice without hitting a stack -- line bets and odds at every position, multiple stacks of come bets, multiple stacks of field bets, and of course everything up on the numbers. Sometimes it seems like trying to get a ball to drop straight through a pachinko machine without hitting a pin.

I know that there is no one for me to be peeved toward, it's just a situation where I have this dream of everyone scooting their chips a little one way or the other so I have a clear path to the back wall. Once the dice hit the pyramids, I'll not worry if they bounce wherever, even back into someone's stack.
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January 19th, 2011 at 9:40:21 PM permalink
I can't stand people who bet the pass line and the don't pass line to take the odds bet "for free". I can't convince them of how stupid this is.
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January 19th, 2011 at 11:01:23 PM permalink
Quote: clarkacal

Have to disagree with you there. Maybe that's why you would switch but I bet 95% of don't bettors who switch to pass when they shoot are in essence saying "screw you goofballs and everybody else, now watch how it's done."

I agree. People are free to bet how they want, but I take offense when someone does this.
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January 19th, 2011 at 11:18:31 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

My biggest pet peeve is losing.
Second pet peeve is loud raucous behavior.
Third is Dice Fondlers who want to go through various incantations and manipulations before they throw the darned things!


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January 19th, 2011 at 11:27:11 PM permalink
My unlisted choice is bossy obnoxious players.

Second would be players who prequalify a new player at the table by betting small or nothing until he hits a point or two.
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January 19th, 2011 at 11:28:35 PM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

Late bettors.
The dice are in the center for six minutes, but as soon as the dice move - bang - four last minute prop bets are thrown in over the moving dice.



I've had any number of hot hands terminated abruptly by some clown getting a last-second inspiration and putting $1 in the Field just as the dice are in the air. The times when I've actually been the shooter (and the dice hit Bozo's hand, and I seven-out), the thought has crossed my mind that no jury in Nevada would ever convict me.
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January 19th, 2011 at 11:48:51 PM permalink
Biggest pet peeve would be when the 7 waits till I have odds behind every point.
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January 20th, 2011 at 12:15:28 AM permalink
Quote: jdog

I can't stand people who bet the pass line and the don't pass line to take the odds bet "for free". I can't convince them of how stupid this is.



Years ago I was waiting for my wife and watching a person playing a full pay JoB VP machine. In the course of 5 minutes I watched them make almost every mistake you can imagine. Including getting a 10h,Jh,Qh,Kh,10s and keeping the 10's. I was about to say something when i realized she was keeping that machine in the casino. If people who don't understand the game didn't play the sucker bets the casino wouldn't give the fair bets.
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January 20th, 2011 at 6:07:36 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

My unlisted choice is bossy obnoxious players.



Actually, Wizard you're right. I've had idiots tell me how to throw the dice or tell others how to throw the dice. It completely ruin's the table's atmosphere. My wife got into an argument with another player (a regular) once, an elderly person. who clearly was not leaving the table to go to the bathroom, if you know what I mean (he was wearing a diaper and stinking up the place). My wife was not throwing the dice particularly well that night, and so when it became her turn, he yelled across the table. "why don't you just pass the dice! You can't roll?". When my wife sevened out on her third roll ("See!"), she yelled back, "why don't you go to the bathroom! You stink!". That cracked up the dealers at the table, and funnily enough, I haven't seen him at the casino since.
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January 20th, 2011 at 6:40:16 AM permalink
Quote: Doc



I know that there is no one for me to be peeved toward, it's just a situation where I have this dream of everyone scooting their chips a little one way or the other so I have a clear path to the back wall. Once the dice hit the pyramids, I'll not worry if they bounce wherever, even back into someone's stack.



From my experiece most of the bets that get knocked over are the come and place bets. If they take odds these go even higher but I swear people want to throw thir dice right into that area and knock as much around as possible. The "come" is almost always empty or not stacked hich yet they seem to want to throw anywhere else.
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January 20th, 2011 at 9:35:38 AM permalink
My biggest pet peeve is people or dealers that think they know more about the game than you. Last time I shot, I rolled a hard 6, then asked for a dollar hard six. The dealer says "you're supposed to bet before you make the roll. The dice have no memory, you know." And I said, "you're right but it works both ways." Then I rolled another hard 6.

That same dealer always tries to tell me how to bet. Another time, I took $50 odds down from a four point and put them on the field and he started to tell me how stupid it was, and it came up triple.

I always play the game for entertainment not to make money. Sometimes players come in making large bets and tell me that I'm not betting enough money. That pisses me off too. Especially when I know that have absolutely no idea about me or why I even play.
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January 20th, 2011 at 9:48:28 AM permalink
I never get angry when people seven-out. How the hell is it their fault? What if I had stuck out my hand, and the dice had hit the point? Would you give me a tip?

My biggest pet peeve is people who get angry with you when you seven-out because you "didn't hit the end of the table" or "you changed it up" on that roll. Some can get really nasty muttering swear words and such. This is why I like to bet the don'ts :)

Quote: mkl654321

I've had any number of hot hands terminated abruptly by some clown getting a last-second inspiration and putting $1 in the Field just as the dice are in the air. The times when I've actually been the shooter (and the dice hit Bozo's hand, and I seven-out), the thought has crossed my mind that no jury in Nevada would ever convict me.

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:03:31 AM permalink
Quote: aahigh

My biggest pet peeve is people or dealers that think they know more about the game than you. Last time I shot, I rolled a hard 6, then asked for a dollar hard six. The dealer says "you're supposed to bet before you make the roll. The dice have no memory, you know." And I said, "you're right but it works both ways." Then I rolled another hard 6.

That same dealer always tries to tell me how to bet. Another time, I took $50 odds down from a four point and put them on the field and he started to tell me how stupid it was, and it came up triple.

I always play the game for entertainment not to make money. Sometimes players come in making large bets and tell me that I'm not betting enough money. That pisses me off too. Especially when I know that have absolutely no idea about me or why I even play.



Sounds like two dealers that management needs to explain the concept of "never get in the way of a high house edge bet."

Last night the party was quiet so I got to teach a newbie how to play. And I had a fairly experienced guy there who helped me out as a sort of student-aide. I got to explain about when the dealer really is helping the player and how dealer-talk is almost like booking an order on the floor of the NYSE. "Hard 4, my 4th, action not working" seems as confusing as "Steel is .70 to .75 2000 up what do you want to do?" to the outsider.
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January 20th, 2011 at 10:38:21 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

I never get angry when people seven-out. How the hell is it their fault? What if I had stuck out my hand, and the dice had hit the point? Would you give me a tip?



Funny how I can't recall one instance of the dice hitting a late or ignorant bettor's hands and coming up with the point, but there are many, many times it has come up cinco-dos, adios...
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January 20th, 2011 at 10:48:26 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Funny how I can't recall one instance of the dice hitting a late or ignorant bettor's hands and coming up with the point, but there are many, many times it has come up cinco-dos, adios...



Obviously, the dice hitting a late-betting twit's hands is just another randomizing element, and has no real effect on the outcome. Just as obviously, a shooter is more likely to seven-out than to make his point on any given roll, interference from hands or not.

That said, most if not all shooters don't appreciate "assistance".
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January 20th, 2011 at 10:52:23 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Funny how I can't recall one instance of the dice hitting a late or ignorant bettor's hands and coming up with the point, but there are many, many times it has come up cinco-dos, adios...

I confess I do recall one such incident. The table wasn't being run all that well, and the dice were sent out while both a player and the base dealer at the other end were pushing chips around. I think the dice may have hit multiple hands before coming to rest showing the point. I shook my head and mumbled something on the order of, "Keep those hands low." I glanced around, seeing several other players smiling that they recognized the mangled instruction and saw the humor. We likely would not have been in such forgiving moods if the result had been the more-familiar kind.
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January 20th, 2011 at 11:33:23 AM permalink
My biggest craps pet peeve is when the dealers push the action so fast that you cannot even get a bet out. There's several tribal casinos around that I won't play at because they do this every time. They have even done it with me when I was the only one at the table and started complaining that I wasn't betting fast enough. So I left. Made no sense to me.

Craps is supposed to be fun. If I have a three second window to throw a bet in, it ain't fun.

Second pet peeve would be high limits.
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January 20th, 2011 at 12:28:32 PM permalink
Quote: clarkacal

Have to disagree with you there. Maybe that's why you would switch but I bet 95% of don't bettors who switch to pass when they shoot are in essence saying "screw you goofballs and everybody else, now watch how it's done."



There isn't a "don't" bettor in the world (my self included) who doesn't think he shoots better than the do'ers.
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January 20th, 2011 at 12:36:52 PM permalink
Quote: Martin

There isn't a "don't" bettor in the world (my self included) who doesn't think he shoots better than the do'ers.

Hmmm....

Does that mean that if you see another Don't better, shooting from the Pass, that you'll bet the Pass when he's shooting?
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January 20th, 2011 at 12:42:57 PM permalink
Quote: Martin

There isn't a "don't" bettor in the world (my self included) who doesn't think he shoots better than the do'ers.



And that's why you bug us :-P

Another pet peeve I forgot to mention is don't bettors who bet the don't, shoot, make the point, and then pass the dice. I've been playing at a table by myself many times and a guy with a permanent frown positions himself at the other end and bets against me. When I seven out he elects to pass the dice back to me and I say "you have to shoot". Reluctantly he shoots and when he happens to make a point he violently waves his hand and shouts "pass the dice!" Oh no he didn't try that! I say, "I pass back to you, it's still your shot!" This usually results in an awkward standoff for a little while, and ends with him wandering off grumbling to himself.
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January 20th, 2011 at 12:53:11 PM permalink
You guys are reading way too much into a don't better switching to do when shooting. I do this sometimes, and it's because I like to shoot. I bet the don't most of the time because I like the way I lose slowly and win big with DCs when the 7 hits.

But when I'm shooting, if I go on a roll, I don't want to be knocking down my own points! If I get on a heater, I want to be betting the right way. If I could keep shooting every time I rolled a 7 to win my don't pass, I would stay on the don't.
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January 20th, 2011 at 3:34:01 PM permalink
Quote: dwheatley

You guys are reading way too much into a don't better switching to do when shooting.


People who complain in any shape, manner or form about don't bettors are displaying a lack of knowledge about the fundamentals of the game. In essence, do/don't betting is analogous to red/black, even/odd or first half/second half betting roulette. Nobody seems to become upset over competing bets elsewhere.

When offered the dice, I usually say, "Just send chips (or cheques) and not dice," and usually add something about calling the Fire Dept. because the table will grow so hot. I do switch to do betting when I have to shoot because of friends or other special situations.
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January 20th, 2011 at 3:37:50 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

That cracked up the dealers at the table, and funnily enough, I haven't seen him at the casino since.

I'm still playing at the same table. Still standing upwind of the dealers. I just get there four hours earlier than I used to.
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January 20th, 2011 at 3:55:54 PM permalink
People sitting in chairs. They take up too much room and they're just really really fucking annoying.
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January 20th, 2011 at 4:37:13 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

People who complain in any shape, manner or form about don't bettors are displaying a lack of knowledge about the fundamentals of the game. In essence, do/don't betting is analogous to red/black, even/odd or first half/second half betting roulette. Nobody seems to become upset over competing bets elsewhere.

When offered the dice, I usually say, "Just send chips (or cheques) and not dice," and usually add something about calling the Fire Dept. because the table will grow so hot. I do switch to do betting when I have to shoot because of friends or other special situations.



I rest my case...
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January 20th, 2011 at 4:38:56 PM permalink
People that buy in to a $5 game with $20...come on, seriously?
Or people that do the same, then shoot and roll a couple crap numbers in a row, then walk off...WTF?!
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January 20th, 2011 at 6:35:49 PM permalink
Quote: dwheatley

You guys are reading way too much into a don't better switching to do when shooting. I do this sometimes, and it's because I like to shoot. I bet the don't most of the time because I like the way I lose slowly and win big with DCs when the 7 hits.

But when I'm shooting, if I go on a roll, I don't want to be knocking down my own points! If I get on a heater, I want to be betting the right way. If I could keep shooting every time I rolled a 7 to win my don't pass, I would stay on the don't.



I agree. Most of us who play the Don't have learned the hard way. I learned last year in AC. Betting the DP with odds made three 4's a 6 and two 10's. Very much not fun. If it's not me shooting I will stop betting after two points are made but for some reason when I shoot I feel obligated to continue and I HATE switching sides in the middle of a roll. Too many bad experiences to mention. So now I always shoot from the Pass. (and usually 7 out very quickly)

Pet Peeves:
Drunk who jams his way into a very crowded table and proceeds to roll whites all over the table while the dice are moving.

Shooters who take an eternity to "set" the dice and then proceed to toss them off the table.
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January 20th, 2011 at 7:52:57 PM permalink
Quote: wrongway

I agree. Most of us who play the Don't have learned the hard way. I learned last year in AC. Betting the DP with odds made three 4's a 6 and two 10's. Very much not fun. If it's not me shooting I will stop betting after two points are made but for some reason when I shoot I feel obligated to continue and I HATE switching sides in the middle of a roll. Too many bad experiences to mention. So now I always shoot from the Pass. (and usually 7 out very quickly)


Ok that's a pretty good explanation of where you're coming from.
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January 20th, 2011 at 8:34:19 PM permalink
as a craps dealer I would agree with most of these......but the one that gets me are the cheap f***s who won't put their chips in the rail.....they hold them all balanced in one hand while trying to shoot with the other......I find these players are always very, very cheap.
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January 20th, 2011 at 10:26:14 PM permalink
Mine is people who criticize or make fun of the way I play when they've got $5 on the table and I've got $500.

I only bet the Don't, even when I'm shooting. I keep to myself, and I accept that sometimes people will make their numbers and I'll lose. But just play your way and let me play mine, thanks.
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January 21st, 2011 at 12:27:33 AM permalink
Quote: appistappis

as a craps dealer I would agree with most of these......but the one that gets me are the cheap f***s who won't put their chips in the rail.....they hold them all balanced in one hand while trying to shoot with the other......I find these players are always very, very cheap.



That, or they've had people swipe chips out of their rack before.
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January 21st, 2011 at 5:11:37 AM permalink
Quote: 7outlineaway

Mine is people who criticize or make fun of the way I play when they've got $5 on the table and I've got $500.

I only bet the Don't, even when I'm shooting. I keep to myself, and I accept that sometimes people will make their numbers and I'll lose. But just play your way and let me play mine, thanks.



Maybe add to that the guy who was refusing to pick his drink off mhy table one corporate party. The night before someone spilled one on the layout but that was an accident. This guy I had to tell a few times to get his drink off my layout. I asked nice and he got offended. Then he was a jerk the rest of the time. What did he think it was, a street game using the curb as the alligator? Sheeese.
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January 22nd, 2011 at 5:00:02 AM permalink
My pet peeve is rude players, and an old man at Casino Niagra takes the cake. I was at a table with 11 people and this Old Man walks up and literally drops a stack of quarte chips onto the don't pass line. When I say stack I don't mean a nice neat stack like everyone else, he literally walks up to the table with a ton of chips and just throws a pile on the don't right before the shooter is about to come out. The boxman says that that only counts up to the table max but the old man does not hear. Man rolls a point and then craps out next roll. The man then taunts the whole table talking about how we suck and how he has all the money. The dealers stack the chips and this man has over $1000, the table max so they only pay him to $1000 and he is upset.

He then bets the max 1000 again on the don't come, wins again, taunts the table some more and leaves. In general I know that sometimes my fellow bettors are wishing for something different than me, but no need to rub your nose in the face that you just lost. If you want to celebrate, that is great, but no need to kick a man while he is down. In particular when you did nothing to knock him down.

I get this often on a similar note when I bet Baccarat. Usually I am the only non-asian at the table and I am the only guy betting the table min constant. Some guy will drop $200 on banker and I drop $5 on player and he gets ticked. I don't have to mimic you and me wagering the $5 means as much to me as you wagering the big bucks.
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January 22nd, 2011 at 6:32:32 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Hmmm....

Does that mean that if you see another Don't better, shooting from the Pass, that you'll bet the Pass when he's shooting?



No.

You guys would hate the way I play. I sometimes play don't and I sometimes play do. I lay bet, place bet, buy bet, don't come bet and come bet. When I place bet I sometimes pick up the bet after a win and sometimes I press the bet after a win. I play the hardways, the hops, the yo and the midnight. Every once in awhile I'll go around the horn and sometimes I'll take a whirl (or a "world" - it's all good). If I'm feeling particularly lucky when I'm the "thrower" I'll hop the 7's for a 2 bucks each and play back the total win twice then go up 20 a roll on each of the combos until I roll something other than a 7 (most ever - 7 sevens in a row). If they don't allow hop 7's I might play big red for a nickle and parlay twice then go up 50 a roll until I roll something else (most ever - 6 sevens in a row). Sometimes on my own come out I might be on the pass line and yet lay $30 on the 5 or 9 just because if I roll a 7 it's money in the bank. If in that instance I roll a 5 or a 9 it is, oh well, and get on with business. I do not hedge bet nor would I ever bet pass and don't pass at the same time.

I play craps for fun and what I really like is being left alone and not have anyone including dealers, boxmen, railbirds, or anyone else tell me that my way is not the "correct" way to play.

I have no superstitions - what it is is what it is.
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January 22nd, 2011 at 7:36:41 AM permalink
Quote: Martin

I do not hedge bet nor would I ever bet pass and don't pass at the same time.

Good. I think those who hedge are trying to eliminate gain by minimizing risk. A gambler should take it like a man. You put your money out there and you stand up and accept the consequences. You don't try to nickle and dime Lady Luck.

I often do appreciate receiving assistance from the Dealers but I'm not interested in conversations with other players. If I choose to shoot from the Don't, thats my option.
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January 22nd, 2011 at 8:18:25 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Good. I think those who hedge are trying to eliminate gain by minimizing risk. A gambler should take it like a man.


But the OP lists in the same posting a whole series of hedges like hopping 7's and laying the 5 or 9 on his comeout rolls. If those aren't hedges, the definition of the word has changed radically.
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January 22nd, 2011 at 10:07:20 AM permalink
Quote: Martin

No.

You guys would hate the way I play. I sometimes play don't and I sometimes play do. I lay bet, place bet, buy bet, don't come bet and come bet. When I place bet I sometimes pick up the bet after a win and sometimes I press the bet after a win. I play the hardways, the hops, the yo and the midnight. Every once in awhile I'll go around the horn and sometimes I'll take a whirl (or a "world" - it's all good). If I'm feeling particularly lucky when I'm the "thrower" I'll hop the 7's for a 2 bucks each and play back the total win twice then go up 20 a roll on each of the combos until I roll something other than a 7 (most ever - 7 sevens in a row). If they don't allow hop 7's I might play big red for a nickle and parlay twice then go up 50 a roll until I roll something else (most ever - 6 sevens in a row). Sometimes on my own come out I might be on the pass line and yet lay $30 on the 5 or 9 just because if I roll a 7 it's money in the bank. If in that instance I roll a 5 or a 9 it is, oh well, and get on with business. I do not hedge bet nor would I ever bet pass and don't pass at the same time.

I play craps for fun and what I really like is being left alone and not have anyone including dealers, boxmen, railbirds, or anyone else tell me that my way is not the "correct" way to play.

I have no superstitions - what it is is what it is.



I would like to invite you to my new casino where I have your own craps table especially reserved for you, with some Grey Goose (or whatever your favorite drink is) on ice.

I understand, you play for entertainment and aren't worried about those pesky odds. I'm curious to see what you would vote for in my "Lifetime Gambling Earnings" poll though.
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January 22nd, 2011 at 5:58:56 PM permalink
I have not played enough craps to have developed a peeve yet. My limited experiences have all pretty much been a positive experience. At least reading this thread has ahown me a few etiquette things to try and avoid as a newbie player.
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January 22nd, 2011 at 6:00:34 PM permalink
Quote: Croupier

I have not played enough craps to have developed a peeve yet. My limited experiences have all pretty much been a positive experience. At least reading this thread has ahown me a few etiquette things to try and avoid as a newbie player.



My advice is to step up to the table, be the shooter, and make eight points in a row--then everyone will love you.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
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January 22nd, 2011 at 6:03:58 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

My advice is to step up to the table, be the shooter, and make eight points in a row--then everyone will love you.



If I could, I would. Unfortunately, Im just not that good. I might just have to pay for a dice control course :P (Note, that was a joke)
Ill just have to rely on the wife wearing a low cut top and getting short sticked to entertain the table (also a joke)
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January 22nd, 2011 at 6:32:33 PM permalink
It drives me nuts when players take the time to set the dice just right, and then they pick them up and shake them in their hand anyway! Crazy players.
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January 22nd, 2011 at 8:19:46 PM permalink
Quote: Croupier

If I could, I would. Unfortunately, Im just not that good. I might just have to pay for a dice control course :P (Note, that was a joke)



Well, since my EZ Lotto idea flopped, perhaps I could try EZ Dice Control. Just send $100, cash, check or money order. You get nothing in return, but at least I'm being honest about it :P
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