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June 10th, 2019 at 7:35:11 AM permalink
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Insert obvious response here.



What response would that be?
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June 10th, 2019 at 8:12:58 AM permalink
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What response would that be?



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June 10th, 2019 at 6:46:47 PM permalink
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Axel has also mentioned not having kids?

What does ME having or not having kids have to do with any of this? Am I a right winger?

I don't have any kids, at least not that I know of.

I believe a woman has the right to choose within a reasonable amount of time. I do think that choice should come with a penalty to discourage it as a form of birth control. I think women should have to inform whomever she suspects got her pregnant so he can give his input in the matter. If you could prove who impregnated the female and he's also in favor her getting an abortion he should also get a penalty of some kind (I have no clue what that penalty should be). Shouldn't there be a limit to the number of abortions one can get in a certain period of time? I think anyone getting an abortion should have to complete some kind of intense course/class before they are allowed to have an abortion. The impregnator should also have to attend classes as well. I would make exceptions for Rape and incest and some other common sense(at least to me) things, such as, if they know the child will have major birth defects. I could sympathize with a female whos been responsible by taking various forms of Brith control and it failing.

The after morning pill should be absolutely free and easy to get. I have no clue why or how a woman doesn't know she might be pregnant? Isn't there an app for that? I don't know what to say about teens getting pregnant, there should obviously be some other set of laws regarding that.



I don't like how some people keep having multiple kids one after another after another while they live off of welfare their entire life. Welfare should only be given in emergency cases only for a short period of time. Your kids should be taken away until you can afford to take care of them unless there's a very good reason you can't work. If you got to work 16 hours a day 7 days a week just to take care of your kids, then so be it. There is no reason anyone on welfare should have anything other than a bus pass used only to look for work. Why can't people who are getting welfare clean streets, clean up graffiti, clean government buildings, or whatever community service jobs that need to be filled.
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June 10th, 2019 at 7:18:40 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

What does ME having or not having kids have to do with any of this? Am I a right winger?

I don't have any kids, at least not that I know of.

I believe a woman has the right to choose within a reasonable amount of time. I do think that choice should come with a penalty to discourage it as a form of birth control. I think women should have to inform whomever she suspects got her pregnant so he can give his input in the matter. If you could prove who impregnated the female and he's also in favor her getting an abortion he should also get a penalty of some kind (I have no clue what that penalty should be). Shouldn't there be a limit to the number of abortions one can get in a certain period of time? I think anyone getting an abortion should have to complete some kind of intense course/class before they are allowed to have an abortion. The impregnator should also have to attend classes as well. I would make exceptions for Rape and incest and some other common sense(at least to me) things, such as, if they know the child will have major birth defects. I could sympathize with a female whos been responsible by taking various forms of Brith control and it failing.

The after morning pill should be absolutely free and easy to get. I have no clue why or how a woman doesn't know she might be pregnant? Isn't there an app for that? I don't know what to say about teens getting pregnant, there should obviously be some other set of laws regarding that.



I don't like how some people keep having multiple kids one after another after another while they live off of welfare their entire life. Welfare should only be given in emergency cases only for a short period of time. Your kids should be taken away until you can afford to take care of them unless there's a very good reason you can't work. If you got to work 16 hours a day 7 days a week just to take care of your kids, then so be it. There is no reason anyone on welfare should have anything other than a bus pass used only to look for work. Why can't people who are getting welfare clean streets, clean up graffiti, clean government buildings, or whatever community service jobs that need to be filled.



Those radical ideas are very rightie in nature.

Taking kids away from poor people accomplishes nothing.

1) poor people will continue to have kids. There has not been any deterrent in history to poor people having kids even in the worst of times

2) what do you intend to do with those kids you separated. I imagine wards of the state? How is that going to be a cheaper solution? Foster care facilities cant be cheaper to finance than just paying out welfare

3) any separation of s child from his parent is pretty cruel and heartless (disallowing an abusive parental situation naturally and no being poor is not considered abusive. Its just a bad situation)

All of this is what led the person bringing up this childless question. The most cruel suggestions about abortion rights and child welfare seem to be coming from childless adults.

Those people who never experienced a connection with a life and blood child
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June 11th, 2019 at 2:12:44 AM permalink
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The after morning pill should be absolutely free and easy to get. I have no clue why or how a woman doesn't know she might be pregnant? Isn't there an app for that? I don't know what to say about teens getting pregnant, there should obviously be some other set of laws regarding that.



Free? Why? How?

Is what you are really saying, "the morning after pill should be paid for by society so women can be too cheap to pay for their own brith control?"

Should condoms be free? Just walk into the store and take what you want?

Whatever happened to paying for things you use?

Her body, her responsibility to pay for it.
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June 11th, 2019 at 3:31:29 AM permalink
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Free? Why? How?

Is what you are really saying, "the morning after pill should be paid for by society so women can be too cheap to pay for their own brith control?"

Should condoms be free? Just walk into the store and take what you want?

Whatever happened to paying for things you use?

Her body, her responsibility to pay for it.



Well if its economy based, then certainly you expect that all women charge for the usage of their bodies.

I mean you aren't advocating that men get to ravage and enjoy womens bodies for free are you?

Whatever happened to paying for things you use?
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June 11th, 2019 at 4:18:57 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Well if its economy based, then certainly you expect that all women charge for the usage of their bodies.

I mean you aren't advocating that men get to ravage and enjoy womens bodies for free are you?

Whatever happened to paying for things you use?



I don't get the point of the comment but will answer.

Women do charge for use of their bodies all the time. Some directly, in the form of prostitution. Some indirectly, in the form of expecting the guy to pay for anything from dinner in the short term to "the girlfriend experience" in the long term. Some charge after the fact in the form of child support for a kid the guy did not want or expect.

A few good ones do not charge, these are highly sought after because they act as equals, not demand to be equals.
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June 11th, 2019 at 5:08:01 AM permalink
I changed the title of this thread to the "Kids Corner," because I thought it was more to the point.

To answer the question posed, I have three kids, ages 12, 17, and 21. I prefer to guard their privacy, so don't give many details. Happy to discuss generalizations of spawning and parenthood in general.
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June 11th, 2019 at 5:22:55 AM permalink
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Am I a right winger?



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June 11th, 2019 at 5:27:14 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Free? Why? How?

Is what you are really saying, "the morning after pill should be paid for by society so women can be too cheap to pay for their own brith control?"

Should condoms be free? Just walk into the store and take what you want?

Whatever happened to paying for things you use?

Her body, her responsibility to pay for it.

In no way am I saying it should be free out of generosity, kind-heartedness or sympathy. In an ideal world, everything or nothing should be free. I just don't like the alternative. The alternative would be unfit, irresponsible people having unplanned children they can't afford. Then everyone loses when they end up sucking off the welfare system and growing up in a messed up environment where their kids are likely to repeat the same thing. I just think the upfront cost we all pay would be a long term saving, lead to less population and well worth the investment.
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