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February 10th, 2019 at 9:08:49 PM permalink
Damn, I ordered flowers for Valentine's Day Friday morning for the best delivery date I could get, FEB 12th. I tried calling 5 hours later, because I changed my mind about this woman. Well, they were hard to understand and were just running a scam on me pretending to be cancelling my order, I knew it and I stayed on the line for 20 minutes before I gave up. First red flag, the lady tells me the order was already canceled. Then she later told me I would get a cancellation confirmation email within 24 hours and would not send me an email stating this. There was no supervisor available. My hands were tied, I couldn't figure out what to do from my phone, so I had to rely on their customer service representatives. For some reason, she kept saying emaul, you would think they would try pronouncing this right, but they don't. I forgot about it, thinking maybe I would change my mind about this date. I have about 19 times, definitely don't want to go and am almost certain she will stand me up. I don't know a good reason why I can't cancel an order for flowers that won't even be delivered for 2 days now, but they won't let me.

Don't order from them unless you're sure what you want them. I don't know how this happened, but I'm stuck giving flowers to a woman I don't even trust and to a woman that will either cancel our date or ghost me. Plenty of fish in the sea.
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February 10th, 2019 at 9:49:01 PM permalink
Mr. I hate Women, thought about sending a woman flowers????

We need to ask ZK how he feels about sending girls flowers.

How old was this chick you were courting? Unless she is old, sending flowers to a chick at the begging stages of dating is a mistake nowadays.

Try ghosting the next one, I bet she will be sending you gifts.

If not, just suddenly send her a d*** Pic.
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February 11th, 2019 at 2:32:24 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Mr. I hate Women, thought about sending a woman flowers????

We need to ask ZK how he feels about sending girls flowers.

How old was this chick you were courting? Unless she is old, sending flowers to a chick at the begging stages of dating is a mistake nowadays.

Try ghosting the next one, I bet she will be sending you gifts.

If not, just suddenly send her a d*** Pic.

It was nothing but trouble my friend, 13 years younger than me. It was just a fantasy relationship and she was playing me, her song was pretty damn good though. It is true, ghosting would have been a good idea. I think she was cheating on someone with me to be honest.
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February 11th, 2019 at 2:49:21 AM permalink
Why not just keep the flowers and give them to your Mom for Valentine's Day? :)
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February 11th, 2019 at 4:15:16 AM permalink
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Why not just keep the flowers and give them to your Mom for Valentine's Day? :)

I cannot change or modify the order.
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February 11th, 2019 at 4:28:00 AM permalink
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Damn, I ordered flowers for Valentine's Day Friday morning for the best delivery date I could get, FEB 12th. I tried calling 5 hours later, because I changed my mind about this woman. Well, they were hard to understand and were just running a scam on me pretending to be cancelling my order, I knew it and I stayed on the line for 20 minutes before I gave up. First red flag, the lady tells me the order was already canceled. Then she later told me I would get a cancellation confirmation email within 24 hours and would not send me an email stating this. There was no supervisor available. My hands were tied, I couldn't figure out what to do from my phone, so I had to rely on their customer service representatives. For some reason, she kept saying emaul, you would think they would try pronouncing this right, but they don't. I forgot about it, thinking maybe I would change my mind about this date. I have about 19 times, definitely don't want to go and am almost certain she will stand me up. I don't know a good reason why I can't cancel an order for flowers that won't even be delivered for 2 days now, but they won't let me.

Don't order from them unless you're sure what you want them. I don't know how this happened, but I'm stuck giving flowers to a woman I don't even trust and to a woman that will either cancel our date or ghost me. Plenty of fish in the sea.


I *think* they contract with local florists, so the quality can vary based on who is actually making the arrangement.
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February 11th, 2019 at 5:11:33 AM permalink
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I *think* they contract with local florists, so the quality can vary based on who is actually making the arrangement.



that is partly true. They do ship some from a warehouse. The ones that get an actual deliver and not fedex come from a local. I think it depends on what you order, if you order some of their specials they ship them. Although I havent ordered flowers in 10 years. I am married so I don't have to worry about those things anymore ;-)
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February 11th, 2019 at 5:27:52 AM permalink
I'm at resort in Jamaica now. Celebrating my girl's birthday. She likes flowers. I went to concierge to order a bouquet. I'm a captive audience. It was nearly $100 for a 6 rose bouquet yet! I bit my lip and said I'll take it, I just need it before dinner. I get an email back telling me since it was a Sunday they can't get them! I figured a resort hotel was 24/7!
At home my local supermarket (Wegmans) has a HUGE flower department. Probably 1/3 the price as well.

For your dilemma, what did the contract say? No changes permitted after an order has been placed? If so, you are likely out of luck. If not, just dispute with your credit card company.
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February 11th, 2019 at 5:30:44 AM permalink
Call your credit card company now and let them know what happened. Ask them to block or reverse the charge if it comes through. Let them know that you cancelled the order but you don't think the person on the phone understood you. They will block or reverse the charge and if the flowers get delivered anyway you are out nothing.
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February 11th, 2019 at 7:24:44 AM permalink
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Call your credit card company now and let them know what happened. Ask them to block or reverse the charge if it comes through. Let them know that you cancelled the order but you don't think the person on the phone understood you. They will block or reverse the charge and if the flowers get delivered anyway you are out nothing.

This^^^
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February 11th, 2019 at 7:39:23 AM permalink
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I'm at resort in Jamaica now. Celebrating my girl's birthday. She likes flowers. I went to concierge to order a bouquet. I'm a captive audience. It was nearly $100 for a 6 rose bouquet yet! I bit my lip and said I'll take it, I just need it before dinner. I get an email back telling me since it was a Sunday they can't get them! I figured a resort hotel was 24/7!
At home my local supermarket (Wegmans) has a HUGE flower department. Probably 1/3 the price as well.

For your dilemma, what did the contract say? No changes permitted after an order has been placed? If so, you are likely out of luck. If not, just dispute with your credit card company.

For how much money you make, you're telling me you waste your precious time reading a contract every time you're spending $65? Terms must be clear if not obvious to be valid. This is an unfair business practice if this is how they operate, fraudulently in my opinion. If I wasn't allowed to cancel, they need to tell me and wouldn't bother bullshitting me claiming the order was already cancelled.
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February 11th, 2019 at 8:36:05 AM permalink
When I want to get my wife flowers I go to the local grocery store and get a bouquet for $4-$7.

I don't know how places like 1800-FLOWERS are still in business. It's the biggest ripoff ever.
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February 11th, 2019 at 9:28:54 AM permalink
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at the begging stages of dating

Yes, as I recall from my years of trying to socialize above my natural dating rank, I think that was somewhere between the delusional period and the hopeless stage, but before the restraining order phase.
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February 11th, 2019 at 10:19:44 AM permalink
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Yes, as I recall from my years of trying to socialize above my natural dating rank, I think that was somewhere between the delusional period and the hopeless stage, but before the restraining order phase.

Lol. Her ass would make Axel go straight. There are things about me you will never know. You think you know who I am, but you dont. It's not easy a situation to be honest. The relationship is unhealthy for both of us, that you are right about. She told me she is only happy when she is with me and she forgets her miserable life.
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February 11th, 2019 at 10:26:49 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

When I want to get my wife flowers I go to the local grocery store and get a bouquet for $4-$7.

I don't know how places like 1800-FLOWERS are still in business. It's the biggest ripoff ever.

For someone you are going to hand the flowers to, I have found that the grocery store to be the best option, too. Mrs. Joeman likes carnations and is meh about roses. I can usually get a nice bouquet of carnations for a couple of bucks.

It's a different story if we want to, say, send flowers to her Grandma in New York. That's where the big national guys are helpful. (We used ProFlowers for just this recently.)

Also, sometimes you can score bonus points if you send your SO flowers at work, especially if it makes her coworkers envious. ;) In this case, I would go with a local florist to deliver them. However, I have used the big guys for this service as well. The price ends up being about the same.
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February 11th, 2019 at 11:14:44 AM permalink
I would suggest calling back again. It often takes overnight for the servers to update the days new orders. Now that your order is visible to the service rep, they can cancel it.
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February 11th, 2019 at 1:02:09 PM permalink
Quote: Joeman



Also, sometimes you can score bonus points if you send your SO flowers at work, especially if it makes her coworkers envious. ;) In this case, I would go with a local florist to deliver them. .

I was going to say something similar to this. It's so very true.
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February 11th, 2019 at 1:31:16 PM permalink
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For how much money you make, you're telling me you waste your precious time reading a contract every time you're spending $65? Terms must be clear if not obvious to be valid. This is an unfair business practice if this is how they operate, fraudulently in my opinion. If I wasn't allowed to cancel, they need to tell me and wouldn't bother bullshitting me claiming the order was already cancelled.



Don't be mean to me! I was trying to help.... As someone who came a whiskers length from losing $1000 to Wiz on the Props Bet challenge, clearly I don't read every contract.... If you feel you were being treated unfairly then do what the two previous posters suggested. The credit card company is your ally.
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February 11th, 2019 at 4:35:56 PM permalink
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Don't be mean to me! I was trying to help.... As someone who came a whiskers length from losing $1000 to Wiz on the Props Bet challenge, clearly I don't read every contract.... If you feel you were being treated unfairly then do what the two previous posters suggested. The credit card company is your ally.

Perhaps he used a debit card. I'm not sure if the same rules apply when you use a debit card. I seemed to remember it was harder to get your money back when using a debit card. Years ago, when I used my debit card, I totally got screwed by a mobile mechanic. My car wouldn't start and it seemed as if it was the starter and coil or some combination. He said it was all fixed. It started up and I got it home. Later that day the same thing was happening again. The guy said he couldn't come for a few days. I figured out it was just a loses wire, but he did a bunch of unnecessary work and still didnt fix the problem.

I had lots of proof he didn't do the work he claimed, he didn't change the parts he claimed, and he lied about what was wrong. I had statements from two mechanics, pictures, a time line, texts and a recording of the guy trying to BS me. I went into the bank and presented everything and they still wouldn't give me back the money. They said unless somome use my debit card without my authorization there was nothing they could do other than go to small claims court.
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February 11th, 2019 at 4:58:44 PM permalink
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Don't be mean to me! I was trying to help.... As someone who came a whiskers length from losing $1000 to Wiz on the Props Bet challenge, clearly I don't read every contract.... If you feel you were being treated unfairly then do what the two previous posters suggested. The credit card company is your ally.

I apologize, didn't mean to sound mean. If I ever win a beer from Wizard, I'll transfer it to you. derp derp derp. I must let you know, by forum standards, I'm the Forrest Gump, so I probably will never win a beer.
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February 11th, 2019 at 5:09:25 PM permalink
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Perhaps he used a debit card. I'm not sure if the same rules apply when you use a debit card. I seemed to remember it was harder to get your money back when using a debit card. Years ago, when I used my debit card, I totally got screwed by a mobile mechanic. My car wouldn't start and it seemed as if it was the starter and coil or some combination. He said it was all fixed. It started up and I got it home. Later that day the same thing was happening again. The guy said he couldn't come for a few days. I figured out it was just a loses wire, but he did a bunch of unnecessary work and still didnt fix the problem.

I had lots of proof he didn't do the work he claimed, he didn't change the parts he claimed, and he lied about what was wrong. I had statements from two mechanics, pictures, a time line, texts and a recording of the guy trying to BS me. I went into the bank and presented everything and they still wouldn't give me back the money. They said unless somome use my debit card without my authorization there was nothing they could do other than go to small claims court.

I think it just has to be branded a VISA or MASTERCARD to have protection. I did use a debit card, but I'm not worried about it. It just sucks this company does business this way. I highly doubt they have customer service set up to act this way unintentionally. It's normal in the internet age I suppose, been finding it out lately.
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February 11th, 2019 at 5:27:10 PM permalink
Teasing about the Ďmeaní comment. Beer will be on me.
I donít understand why anyone would use a debit card instead of a credit card. Just pay it off on time every month. I think most credit cards give better benefits.
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February 11th, 2019 at 6:33:16 PM permalink
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I think it just has to be branded a VISA or MASTERCARD to have protection. I did use a debit card, but I'm not worried about it. It just sucks this company does business this way. I highly doubt they have customer service set up to act this way unintentionally. It's normal in the internet age I suppose, been finding it out lately.


It was/is branded visa.
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February 11th, 2019 at 6:42:31 PM permalink
I did not know you could get a Visa card from a Miata dealership.
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February 11th, 2019 at 8:00:15 PM permalink
Did I ever mention that I hate Valentine's Day? I think I do at this time of year every time. A day designed to part men from their money and most of them end up in the dog house by the end of the day anyway. It is on the 14th of February that I wish I lived anywhere but the US that makes up stupid holidays like this.
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February 11th, 2019 at 8:18:00 PM permalink
But it is also National Condom Awareness Day and National Ferris Wheel day. Put those 2 together. Now that could make for an exciting Valentine's day date. Not exactly Mile High Club, but definitely FUN !
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February 11th, 2019 at 8:42:46 PM permalink
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But it is also National Condom Awareness Day and National Ferris Wheel day. Put those 2 together. Now that could make for an exciting Valentine's day date. Not exactly Mile High Club, but definitely FUN !



After I confirm that, I am going to celebrate both those things on Feb 14.
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February 11th, 2019 at 9:07:06 PM permalink
Would I lie?

http://www.holidays-and-observances.com/february-14.html
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February 11th, 2019 at 9:58:54 PM permalink
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Did I ever mention that I hate Valentine's Day? I think I do at this time of year every time. A day designed to part men from their money and most of them end up in the dog house by the end of the day anyway. It is on the 14th of February that I wish I lived anywhere but the US that makes up stupid holidays like this.

If you are into AP all holidays are a good thing since gambling establishments often run promotions during that time.
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February 11th, 2019 at 10:15:32 PM permalink
Of course these guys are a scam they get touted on talk radio everyday. Those talk show hosts whore themselves out to whoever sends them money. Xchair, some BS mattress thatís going to change your life, 1800flowers.

To make up for the money they wasted on these talkshow hosts, they run scammy and shottty buisness operations. I never charged back an item once in my life but if I was going to it would be one of these companies just so I do not have to deal with their customer service.
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February 11th, 2019 at 10:16:32 PM permalink
I ordered from proflowers once to get flowers delivered to my now ex-fiancee at her work. They came in an unarranged box and unbloomed. 2 of 18 eventually bloomed. I wrote a complaint and they refunded my money plus they did it the right way without hassle. I was surprised to get a refund plus a replacement.
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February 12th, 2019 at 6:19:12 AM permalink
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http://www.holidays-and-observances.com/february-14.html



Fun site.

p.s. Happy plum pudding day!
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February 12th, 2019 at 6:48:07 AM permalink
I sent my Aunt 1800Flowers for her 90th birthday. She loved them but my sister told me several of the flowers hadn't bloomed. I called customer service and was offered a full refund or a replacement.
In NY, there are an abundance of flower shops. After three years in Vegas, I have not noticed any.
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February 12th, 2019 at 6:51:55 AM permalink
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Perhaps he used a debit card. I'm not sure if the same rules apply when you use a debit card. I seemed to remember it was harder to get your money back when using a debit card.



Never use a debit card on the internet, you are just asking for a fight when something like this happens. You can also find your whole account wiped out and fighting to get it back. Always use credit cards because it is the credit card company that has to fight it and you are out nothing while waiting for them to resolve it.
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February 12th, 2019 at 6:53:29 AM permalink
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Damn, I ordered flowers for Valentine's Day Friday morning for the best delivery date I could get, FEB 12th. I tried calling 5 hours later, because I changed my mind about this woman. Well, they were hard to understand and were just running a scam on me pretending to be cancelling my order, I knew it and I stayed on the line for 20 minutes before I gave up. First red flag, the lady tells me the order was already canceled. Then she later told me I would get a cancellation confirmation email within 24 hours and would not send me an email stating this. There was no supervisor available. My hands were tied, I couldn't figure out what to do from my phone, so I had to rely on their customer service representatives. For some reason, she kept saying emaul, you would think they would try pronouncing this right, but they don't. I forgot about it, thinking maybe I would change my mind about this date. I have about 19 times, definitely don't want to go and am almost certain she will stand me up. I don't know a good reason why I can't cancel an order for flowers that won't even be delivered for 2 days now, but they won't let me.

Don't order from them unless you're sure what you want them. I don't know how this happened, but I'm stuck giving flowers to a woman I don't even trust and to a woman that will either cancel our date or ghost me. Plenty of fish in the sea.



I canít wait to find out what happens. Maybe thereís a Hollywood happy ending after she gets the flowers.
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February 12th, 2019 at 7:01:32 AM permalink
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I canít wait to find out what happens. Maybe thereís a Hollywood happy ending after she gets the flowers.

It is very doubtful. I hope those flowers make her feel like the despicable thing she has become. The most likely thing is there will be a sex tape rather than a Hollywood ending.
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February 12th, 2019 at 7:41:25 AM permalink
https://www.1800flowers.com/serene-green-mixed-floral-145134

Thats what i ordered.
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February 12th, 2019 at 11:30:52 AM permalink
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https://www.1800flowers.com/serene-green-mixed-floral-145134

Thats what i ordered.


Did you try calling their customer service line again?
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February 12th, 2019 at 12:27:23 PM permalink
" Always on My Mind" seems pretty stalkerish. I'd casually mention this forum to her and let her find this thread.
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February 12th, 2019 at 2:25:56 PM permalink
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" Always on My Mind" seems pretty stalkerish. I'd casually mention this forum to her and let her find this thread.

I'm With her now. She knows about the name of the flowers. I don't think she minds.
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February 12th, 2019 at 2:26:43 PM permalink
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Did you try calling their customer service line again?

nope. They changed the delivery date to tomorrow. Guess I need them anyway.
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February 12th, 2019 at 5:58:47 PM permalink
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" Always on My Mind" seems pretty stalkerish. I'd casually mention this forum to her and let her find this thread.

Where did you even get that from? The link was supposed to be for serene green.
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onenickelmiracle
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February 12th, 2019 at 6:00:17 PM permalink
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Did I ever mention that I hate Valentine's Day? I think I do at this time of year every time. A day designed to part men from their money and most of them end up in the dog house by the end of the day anyway. It is on the 14th of February that I wish I lived anywhere but the US that makes up stupid holidays like this.

Yeah but what about the split tail?
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February 12th, 2019 at 6:21:03 PM permalink
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nope. They changed the delivery date to tomorrow. Guess I need them anyway.

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February 12th, 2019 at 6:46:29 PM permalink
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Ye if little faith. Hollywood ending heat you come.

Unless she finds:
Quote: onenickelmiracle

It is very doubtful. I hope those flowers make her feel like the despicable thing she has become. The most likely thing is there will be a sex tape rather than a Hollywood ending.

So I guess I won't mention this, 'cause that might point it out to her, and then you might not be getting any.
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February 12th, 2019 at 6:48:00 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Did I ever mention that I hate Valentine's Day? I think I do at this time of year every time. A day designed to part men from their money and most of them end up in the dog house by the end of the day anyway. It is on the 14th of February that I wish I lived anywhere but the US that makes up stupid holidays like this.



The Palms is coming to your rescue Wizard. They are having an anti Valentines event on the 15th.

It seems a little two faced to me to have it the day after. Me thinks they are having cake and eating it too.
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February 12th, 2019 at 6:51:06 PM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead

Unless she finds:

Quote: onenickelmiracle

It is very doubtful. I hope those flowers make her feel like the despicable thing she has become. The most likely thing is there will be a sex tape rather than a Hollywood ending.

So I guess I won't mention this, 'cause that might point it out to her, and then you might not be getting any.

Well played.
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February 12th, 2019 at 8:50:24 PM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead

Unless she finds:

Quote: onenickelmiracle

It is very doubtful. I hope those flowers make her feel like the despicable thing she has become. The most likely thing is there will be a sex tape rather than a Hollywood ending.

So I guess I won't mention this, 'cause that might point it out to her, and then you might not be getting any.

Yes I am getting to know her and sometimes I act like that, she doesn't like it. I am on and off again too much, one time I will just be off and off for good. It's not easy.
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February 12th, 2019 at 8:55:10 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

Ye if little faith. Hollywood ending heat you come.

It's possible.
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February 13th, 2019 at 3:04:13 PM permalink
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It's possible.



https://youtu.be/XWGuzwj4DSs



Place your bets. She has stood me up 6/10 times when sex was promised or alluded to be guaranteed. I'll take odds against her showing up. Can someone give me 20/1?
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