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August 23rd, 2018 at 4:53:24 PM permalink
I was going to visit the Hard Rock casino just outside of Tampa. Putting aside the i6:5 BJ, the casino doesn't have Craps. What kind of place is this!
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August 23rd, 2018 at 5:30:00 PM permalink
Indian casinos in Florida are not permitted to have craps. Nor are non-indian casinos. Dice can not be the sole determinant of a gambling wager in Florida but this is supposedly under legislative review.

Craps in casinos in Florida has to be this electronic stuff which is considered a slot machine.

Craps is available twelve miles offshore of Cape Canaveral aboard a twice a day gambling ship. Check their website for specials, sailing times and weather reports. Free parking and boarding discounts abound and there are shuttle pick-ups from a variety of nearby hotels.

Ship has electronic craps, electronic roulette, two or three actual craps tables and usually one roulette wheel in operation. Lots of other games, sports book, duty free store, etc.
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August 23rd, 2018 at 5:35:32 PM permalink
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I was going to visit the Hard Rock casino just outside of Tampa. Putting aside the i6:5 BJ, the casino doesn't have Craps. What kind of place is this!



Is it faster to get from Tampa to the full casino experiences in NOLA/Biloxi, or the Bahamas?
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August 23rd, 2018 at 5:38:58 PM permalink
Casinos in California have a similar law - you can have craps, but either it has to use cards (even if you roll dice to determine the cards - and pretty much every casino that opened in California since 2012 doesn't even allow dice for that) or has to be electronic dice.

Also, I think the Lucky Dragon casino in Vegas didn't have craps - word on the street was, the only dice in the place were the ones used to determine who is dealt to first in Pai Gow.
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August 23rd, 2018 at 6:58:57 PM permalink
Right. Lucky Dragon didn稚 have craps. Then again, it was a small casino (less than 20 tables IIRC).
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August 23rd, 2018 at 10:20:58 PM permalink
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Is it faster to get from Tampa to the full casino experiences in NOLA/Biloxi, or the Bahamas?



The GN has casinos in Lake Charles and Biloxi but the airfares to get there from Tampa are ridiculous. It's cheaper to go to Vegas from Tampa.
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August 24th, 2018 at 3:48:38 AM permalink
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Is it faster to get from Tampa to the full casino experiences in NOLA/Biloxi, or the Bahamas?



From Tampa, it's about a 7 hour drive to Biloxi. Add 1 hour to NOLA.

To fly to Biloxi from there, you must either change planes or fly into NOLA and rent a car. Either option is longer in time and much more expensive than driving, counting door to door and airline check-in policies.

However, both CET and MGM run junket jets a couple times a month out of St. Petersburg and other Tampa Bay airports to Biloxi. You have to have a relationship with them to get invited, but they're cheaper and faster than either option.
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August 24th, 2018 at 6:18:29 AM permalink
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From Tampa, it's about a 7 hour drive to Biloxi. Add 1 hour to NOLA.

Yeah, but that's still a shorter drive than it is to the Bahamas! :)

If you are willing to drive the 1-1/2 - 2 hours to Sanford, you can get direct flights to Gulfport (Biloxi) cheap on Allegiant. You can also get a direct flight out of Tampa or Orlando to Nassau (<2 hour flight), but last time I looked, it wasn't cheap.

Also, you can sometimes find good deals on short cruises to the Bahamas from the east coast ports.

As to the OP, like Flea said above, you have to go out on a gambling cruise to play real craps (I think it's only 3 miles out, though). Although, Tampa HR did have bubble craps last time I was there a couple years ago.
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August 24th, 2018 at 7:22:42 AM permalink
Yes, I think it is only three miles. The distances vary for the Atlantic and the Gulf coasts. Also the rules vary for getting there such as speed limits due to marine sanctuaries or marine traffic. Even though the gambling ship goes only a short distance out and other commercial boats and pleasure craft abound, your ticket will still have a 'muster station' designation and all that stuff.

The Seminole casinos Tampa, Immokalee and "Miami" do have Bubble Craps (a term I use for any electronic craps irrespective of whether there are felt dice inside a large plastic bubble). I would avoid Immokalee entirely and I do not recommend either Tampa or Miami. Sure Tampa is a very large and very popular casino and the girls are pretty, the shopping impressive, the games plentiful, the dealers tolerable, but its the Seminoles. They own the place, they own the police, they own the courts, say anything derogatory about Indians and you are in real trouble, they report their slot computer chips to no one. They are as efficient as any monopoly is. They interpret their discount coupons as they wish.

Trekking to somewhat outlying airports that have lower landing fees and less burdensome staffing requirements can help. RSW, the main airport just north of Naples, FL, rarely has convenient flights to Biloxi. Cheap flights and direct flights are generally available from more distant airports such as Miami or Orlando.

Those junket flights are often flights that should be snapped up PROMPTLY.
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August 24th, 2018 at 12:59:49 PM permalink
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Yes, I think it is only three miles. The distances vary for the Atlantic and the Gulf coasts. Also the rules vary for getting there such as speed limits due to marine sanctuaries or marine traffic. Even though the gambling ship goes only a short distance out and other commercial boats and pleasure craft abound, your ticket will still have a 'muster station' designation and all that stuff.

The Seminole casinos Tampa, Immokalee and "Miami" do have Bubble Craps (a term I use for any electronic craps irrespective of whether there are felt dice inside a large plastic bubble). I would avoid Immokalee entirely and I do not recommend either Tampa or Miami. Sure Tampa is a very large and very popular casino and the girls are pretty, the shopping impressive, the games plentiful, the dealers tolerable, but its the Seminoles. They own the place, they own the police, they own the courts, say anything derogatory about Indians and you are in real trouble, they report their slot computer chips to no one. They are as efficient as any monopoly is. They interpret their discount coupons as they wish.

Trekking to somewhat outlying airports that have lower landing fees and less burdensome staffing requirements can help. RSW, the main airport just north of Naples, FL, rarely has convenient flights to Biloxi. Cheap flights and direct flights are generally available from more distant airports such as Miami or Orlando.

Those junket flights are often flights that should be snapped up PROMPTLY.



I thought that junkets had gone the way of the dinosaur. I'd still rather pay the cheaper airfare and to to Vegas.

I've been to Indian casinos on Florida's east coast. They don't have to pay the extra money to get a Federal tax stamps on cigarettes and the line to get smokes had more people than were in the casino gambling.
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