Pitch a bitch. Complain about the Affordable Care Act here, or whatever else is bothering you.
This is now my catch-all thread. When DT opened, I swore myself to not creating any non-gambling related topics, though I will respond to them. As a result, this thread is one of the best things that could have happened to me here.
Sorry, USA Today, but you're about 5 years too late. The Tea Party had been warning everyone about the very things that are coming true regarding Obamacare, but you morons were too busy deriding them instead of listening to them.
Not that I'm defending the complete lack of system and load testing apparently on the healthcare.gov website. I know from experience that's the one thing that you have to do before you release a piece of software to the public -- have a large beta test, and have a load test using software. These things clearly weren't done, and the Project Managers on both the CGI side (okay, it's one of our competitors, screw them!) and the government have to be held accountable.
Obama also has to be held accountable for the screwups too.
Ambulatory patient services
Emergency services
Hospitalization
Maternity and newborn care
Mental health and substance use disorder services, including behavioral health treatment not yet anyway
Prescription drugs
Rehabilitative and habilitative services and devices
Laboratory services
Preventive and wellness services and chronic disease management
Pediatric services, including oral and vision care
Where's vision for adults?
Any guesses as to what percentage each of the 10 above relates the cost of a policy? I doubt it's as simple as 10% each.
Is Rand Paul in the Tea party ?
He doesn't think the Civil Rights Act should apply to private businesses. When asked “Do you think that a private business has the right to say ‘we don’t serve black people?’” He answered, “Yes,” and defended their “right” to discriminate as “freedom of speech.”
Quote: AlanThey should have made this list ala carte(choose 7(or your number or none) out of 10, your choice):
Ambulatory patient services
Emergency services
Hospitalization
Maternity and newborn care
Mental health and substance use disorder services, including behavioral health treatment not yet anyway
Prescription drugs
Rehabilitative and habilitative services and devices
Laboratory services
Preventive and wellness services and chronic disease management
Pediatric services, including oral and vision care
Where's vision for adults?
What they could have done is just standardize coverage definition into these areas to make it easier to compare. Instead what they did is make everyone buy the full buffet when all many people want is a danish and coffee. Just more nanny-state socialism.
Quote: BuzzardIs Rand Paul in the Tea party ?
He doesn't think the Civil Rights Act should apply to private businesses. When asked “Do you think that a private business has the right to say ‘we don’t serve black people?’” He answered, “Yes,” and defended their “right” to discriminate as “freedom of speech.”
What does any of that have to do with my original point? When Obama said "you can keep your health plan", the Tea Party said he was full of it, yet the USA Today and other news outlets derided them. As it turns out, the Tea Party was right on the money. Sad how the mainstream media was too busy licking Obama's boots instead of acting like real journalists.
Quote: Buzzard
He doesn't think the Civil Rights Act should apply to private businesses. When asked “Do you think that a private business has the right to say ‘we don’t serve black people?’” He answered, “Yes,” and defended their “right” to discriminate as “freedom of speech.”
We have a POTUS who appointed a supreme who outright thinks skin color is more important than qualifications; we have a government that sets aside contract work based on skin color and gender. Clearly the government condones discrimination on its own part.
Quote: Beethoven9thWhat does any of that have to do with my original point? When Obama said "you can keep your health plan", the Tea Party said he was full of it, yet the USA Today and other news outlets derided them. As it turns out, the Tea Party was right on the money. Sad how the mainstream media was too busy licking Obama's boots instead of acting like real journalists.
The Tea Party thought the government shutdown was going to be a great idea. Wrong on strategy and wrong on results. And it cost the country more money and slowed the economy.
Quote: BuzzardLet's talk about everything except the racism the Tea party leaders advocate .
And what examples of this do you have?
Quote: rxwineThe Tea Party thought the government shutdown was going to be a great idea. Wrong on strategy and wrong on results. And it cost the country more money and slowed the economy.
Slowed the economy? Give me a break, the net effect to the economy is about zero. And now that people see the disaster Obamacare is, even dems are thinking delay is a good idea.
Quote: AZDuffmanAnd what examples of this do you have?
Is Rand Paul in the Tea party ?
He doesn't think the Civil Rights Act should apply to private businesses. When asked “Do you think that a private business has the right to say ‘we don’t serve black people?’” He answered, “Yes,” and defended their “right” to discriminate as “freedom of speech.”
Quote: AZDuffmanSlowed the economy? Give me a break, the net effect to the economy is about zero..
So we shut the government down and no big net savings? It's only negligible? You said it not me. Apparently a fully operational government has as little net economic effect as shutdown one.
This is a revelation from a conservative.
Federal aid is only bad when it is not going into a conservative's pocket.
Quote: rxwineSo we shut the government down and no big net savings? It's only negligible? You said it not me. Apparently a fully operational government has as little net economic effect as shutdown one.
This is a revelation from a conservative.
Most of the government stayed open, and any net pay to government employees was made up within the month. Net savings was about $0.00.
Try your act with a low-information voter, folks like me know better.
Let's talk about everything except the racism that Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson advocate.Quote: BuzzardLet's talk about everything except the racism the Tea party leaders advocate .
Quote: rxwineThe Tea Party thought the government shutdown was going to be a great idea. Wrong on strategy and wrong on results. And it cost the country more money and slowed the economy.Quote: Beethoven9thWhat does any of that have to do with my original point? When Obama said "you can keep your health plan", the Tea Party said he was full of it, yet the USA Today and other news outlets derided them. As it turns out, the Tea Party was right on the money. Sad how the mainstream media was too busy licking Obama's boots instead of acting like real journalists.
Uh oh. Mr. Tangent is at it again. I make a comment about health care, and he responds with a comment about the government shutdown. What's he gonna talk about next?
Afghanistan? The Iraq War? World War II? LOL!!
Quote: AZDuffmanTry your act with a low-information voter, folks like me know better.
Well if you can win enough seats and or the presidency, the TP will be able to do things the old fashion way with actual votes, instead of holding a gun to America's head.
But I guess blacks should agree to separate but equal.
Quote: Beethoven9thUh oh. Mr. Tangent is at it again. I make a comment about health care, and he responds with a comment about the government shutdown. What's he gonna talk about next?
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Get your loser posts with the program.
Pitch a bitch. Complain about the Affordable Care Act here, or whatever else is bothering you."
Quote: Mission146It says, "Whatever else is bothering you."
This is now my catch-all thread. .
Quote: rxwineWell if you can win enough seats and or the presidency, the TP will be able to do things the old fashion way with actual votes, instead of holding a gun to America's head.
Hmmm, seems to me they did things with votes in the House. But I guess in your book not going along with what Obama wants is holding a gun to America's head?
Quote: BuzzardSo Al Sharpton's views justify Paul Rand's racism. Oh, now I understand. The Tea party platform states a belief in the Bill of Rights.
But I guess blacks should agree to separate but equal.
Until the left agrees to the end of affirmative action and racial set-aside quotas they have zero business calling anyone else "racist."
Quote: rxwineWell if you can win enough seats and or the presidency, the TP will be able to do things the old fashion way with actual votes, instead of holding a gun to America's head.
They just learned that tactic from gay marriage supporters. Over 30 states ban same-sex marriage, but that sure doesn't stop all the gay marriage loons out there.
Quote: BuzzardSo Al Sharpton's views justify Paul Rand's racism. Oh, now I understand. The Tea party platform states a belief in the Bill of Rights.
But I guess blacks should agree to separate but equal.
Why are you so concerned with Rand Paul's alleged racism and not Al Sharpton's real racism?
For example, Rand Paul believes that the deaths of Christopher Lane and Trayvon Martin are equally tragic. OTOH, Sharpton thinks Trayvon's life is more important. That's racist, if you ask me.
LOL...then why did you need to quote me in your initial post? If you want to talk about the government shutdown, you're free to do so in a stand-alone post within the thread. The fact that you quoted me and then went off on a totally different subject is proof why you are 'Mr. Tangent'. ;)Quote: rxwineGet your loser posts with the program.
Pitch a bitch. Complain about the Affordable Care Act here, or whatever else is bothering you."
Quote: BuzzardWell, thanks for admitting the Tea party is racist.
Who admitted that? And I still await you to state one tenant of the Tea Party that is racist.
Quote: AZDuffmanWho admitted that? And I still await you to state one tenant of the Tea Party that is racist.
Tea Party supporters breath; therefore, they are racist. (That's similar to the logic liberals like to use) ;)
What year will it be when the number of people who did not have health insurance obtain health insurance surpasses the number of people who lost their insurance due to Obamacare mandates?
Quote: timberjimSince this is a gambling website, anyone care to guess?
What year will it be when the number of people who did not have health insurance obtain health insurance surpasses the number of people who lost their insurance due to Obamacare mandates?
Oh, about 5012.
Quote: Beethoven9thQuote: rxwineWell if you can win enough seats and or the presidency, the TP will be able to do things the old fashion way with actual votes, instead of holding a gun to America's head.
They just learned that tactic from gay marriage supporters. Over 30 states ban same-sex marriage, but that sure doesn't stop all the gay marriage loons out there.
There's no doubt that gay activists have agitated in up in your face ways. But they often pick smaller foes, (and actual foes) rather than running risk of damaging the entire economy. The TP just targeted everyone when they chose the course they did. That is a strategy of terrorists too. Just aim at the easiest biggest target regardless of who is responsible or whether your target has anything to do with your gripe.
Quote: Beethoven9thQuote: rxwineWell if you can win enough seats and or the presidency, the TP will be able to do things the old fashion way with actual votes, instead of holding a gun to America's head.
They just learned that tactic from gay marriage supporters. Over 30 states ban same-sex marriage, but that sure doesn't stop all the gay marriage loons out there.
Maybe they should just ban marriage completely and replace it with contracts, which include length in terms.
Who ever came up with such an idea anyway?
People have been reproducing a lot longer then marriage "vows" have been in existence.
It's getting so as a misogynist hasn't got any rights around here.
Quote: rxwineThat is a strategy of terrorists too. Just aim at the easiest biggest target regardless of who is responsible or whether your target has anything to do with your gripe.
That sounds just like the gay marriage terrorists. They will boycott businesses that don't give in to their terrorism, and this hurts the local economy. These people have no shame and don't care about damaging the local economy.
Quote: rxwineJust aim at the easiest biggest target regardless of who is responsible or whether your target has anything to do with your gripe.
You mean like:
Health Insurance Companies
Oil Companies
Gun Manufacturers
Fox News Channel
Chick-Fil-A
Catholic Hospitals
Hedge Funds and Banks
GM and Chrysler Bondholders
The NRA
You mean groups like these?
Quote: petroglyphMaybe they should just ban marriage completely and replace it with contracts, which include length in terms.
If gay marriage supporters had advocated that from the get-go, they'd actually have a much stronger argument, IMHO.
Quote: Beethoven9thThat sounds just like the gay marriage terrorists. They will boycott businesses that don't give in to their terrorism, and this hurts the local economy. These people have no shame and don't care about damaging the local economy.
Sure, but they are trying to damage the responsible retailer, not all the local retailers. They're not going to stand in the Wendy's parking lot to picket Chick-fil lay.
Quote: rxwineSure, but they are trying to damage the responsible retailer, not all the local retailers. They're not going to stand in the Wendy's parking lot to picket Chick-fil lay.
Chick-fil-a is part of the economy, whether the gay marriage terrorists want to admit it or not. If a franchise gets hurt, so does the local economy. But do the gay marriage terrorists care? Of course not.
Quote: rxwineSure, but they are trying to damage the responsible retailer, not all the local retailers. They're not going to stand in the Wendy's parking lot to picket Chick-fil lay.
Yet Chick-Fil-A did nothing wrong in the first place.
Quote: Beethoven9thGay marriage terrorists did the equivalent of attacking everyone who works for Chick-fil-a, even though only a few executives make the decisions.
Yup it's all scale. The bigger the scale the more innocent targets. TP is worse by far. (all of America),
But you seem to think pointing at another racist somehow proves that a tea party leader is not a racist. WTF ? ? ?
Quote: rxwineYup it's all scale. The bigger the scale the more innocent targets. TP is worse by far. (all of America),
Gee, you're really behind on the issues. The gay marriage terrorists boycott a hell of a lot more than Chick-fil-a. They're bad for America because they don't care about destroying local economies.
Quote: BuzzardBut you seem to think pointing at another racist somehow proves that a tea party leader is not a racist. WTF ? ? ?
I only brought up Sharpton's racism out of the blue because you brought up the Tea Party's (alleged) racism out of the blue in a conversation about health care. :)
Quote: rxwineTP did the equivalent of attacking KFC, Popeyes, Churches, El Pollo Loco and all the rest of the chicken industry. Even though the problem was just one restaurant chain.
When did the Tea Party attack any restaurant let alone all of them?
Quote: AZDuffmanWhen did the Tea Party attack any restaurant let alone all of them?
They did the equivalent of putting a gun to America's head with the government shutdown AND debt ceiling. They could have found a smaller target instead of the whole country.
Polls indicate they lost on that idea.
