abc islands is a SCAM
ABC ISLANDS IS A SCAM DO NOT USE THEM
Can you name the three ABC islands?
Quote: teddysCan you name the three ABC islands?
Of course, though I've only been to two of them.
Quote: vendman1But why do people use off shore sports books at all? The number of bad/no payout stories I've heard are too numerous to detail. Caveat Emptor.
Yep. Every bettor in my stable had a (no pay, slow pay) story about an offshore book.
Find a local book that uses a pay-per-head site. You have the convenience of 24-7 internet wagering,
plus prompt cash payments (and no fees).
Quote: teddysTrivia time!
Can you name the three ABC islands?
Aruba, Bonaire, Curacaio (spell). I've been to all three as part of an 8 day "ABC" cruise out of San Juan. Also been to Klein Bonaire which is a deserted island about 15 minutes boat ride from Bonaire, and it was the best snorkeling I've ever experienced. Amazing coral and some crazy looking fish.
Quote: dwheatley... I can't think of any pop reference to B.
Similar, though not the same, as an old Chevrolet.
Quote: DocSimilar, though not the same, as an old Chevrolet.
IIRC Chevrolet had a Belvedere back in the day. Way back...
Quote: chickenmanIIRC Chevrolet had a Belvedere back in the day. Way back...
Nope, Plymouth...
Chevy had the Bel-Air and Biscayne...which are technically the same car (caprice)
Quote: TIMSPEEDChevy had the Bel-Air ....
That's what I was alluding to, of course. I was typing that "hint" before another member came right out and said the name of the B island.
Quote: TIMSPEEDNope, Plymouth...
Chevy had the Bel-Air and Biscayne...which are technically the same car (caprice)
I stand corrected. do recall the Bel-Aire but not the Biscayne.
Quote: playstkidafter winning 800 on the super bowl I phoneD these guys to wire me 700...1st they said they could only send 500 at a time i said ok no problem...after being on hold 2 mins they then said you have to deposit 8400 "roll over" to qualify for a pay out and i only had 1,100 total deposit.
ABC ISLANDS IS A SCAM DO NOT USE THEM
Have to deposit 8400 "rollover"? I would think it means not to "deposit" any more money, but for you to play another 8400 in wagers to complete your rollover. Are you saying you made 1100 in total deposits to ABC islands or that you mean to say that you made a total of 1100 in wagers toward your rollover so far?
What was your rollover, 5x? And the total of your rollover to be met ? 9500?
Anyway, from their webpage (with their typo of 3 times instead of 5 times):
The following terms and their respective definitions are frequently used in our Bonuses.
Rollover
The rollover requirement includes the sum of the deposit and awarded bonuses, multiplied by the rollover number for that particular bonus plan.
To qualify you must rollover your beginning of month balance (if any) and all deposits 3 times and must have a net loss for the month.
Example: Deposit of $300 via Western Union with a 15% Bonus. (Deposit of $300 + 15% Bonus of $45 = $345 X 5 = $1725 in wagers needed).
Any line -200 or grater, the win amount is caculated for rollover requirements not the risk amount.
SBR has them rated as D. (Of course those ratings are can be very subjective )
legalized online sports betting in NJ would be even better.
best of all are local bookies with PPH sites because they extend credit.
Quote: EdgeLookerHave to deposit 8400 "rollover"? I would think it means not to "deposit" any more money, but for you to play another 8400 in wagers to complete your rollover. Are you saying you made 1100 in total deposits to ABC islands or that you mean to say that you made a total of 1100 in wagers toward your rollover so far?
What was your rollover, 5x? And the total of your rollover to be met ? 9500?
Anyway, from their webpage (with their typo of 3 times instead of 5 times):
The following terms and their respective definitions are frequently used in our Bonuses.
Rollover
The rollover requirement includes the sum of the deposit and awarded bonuses, multiplied by the rollover number for that particular bonus plan.
To qualify you must rollover your beginning of month balance (if any) and all deposits 3 times and must have a net loss for the month.
Example: Deposit of $300 via Western Union with a 15% Bonus. (Deposit of $300 + 15% Bonus of $45 = $345 X 5 = $1725 in wagers needed).
Any line -200 or grater, the win amount is caculated for rollover requirements not the risk amount.
SBR has them rated as D. (Of course those ratings are can be very subjective )
Quote: playstkid
They should be Rated as Triple FFF.
I would have never agreed to such terms had i known them.
They wouldnt let me 2 side a few games even though i made a couple of "legit" plays.
NO WHERE IN their Rules Does it State I COULD NOT take two sides of the Same Game and there by surrender the 10% Vig For said Game.
THEY ARE COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISHONORABLE WELCH !
These are the kind of Low Lifes that use to get their legs broken in New York.
maybe you should throw in and the guy has to let you bang his wife once a month.
Online betting ? NEVER EVER EVER AGAIN. Not Ever.
There is No Bigger Low Life Then a WELCH
Quote: playstkidhey edgelooker........... AND must have a net loss for the month too huh ?
maybe you should throw in and the guy has to let you bang his wife once a month.
Online betting ? NEVER EVER EVER AGAIN. Not Ever.
There is No Bigger Low Life Then a WELCH
Their rules page definitely needs to be fixed- "the must have a net loss for the month" really pertains to new deposits, to see if it qualifies to receive a bonus or not. Most books won't give rollover credit on wagers where one bets both sides of a game, but like you said, I don't see it in Abc's rules either. They should of told you upfront what your rollover requirement was.
I have already stated my numerous gripes about them and any book that wont let you surrender an automatic 10% vig loss
doesnt know what they are doing as a bookie AND IS DIHONORABLE
I Even tried to waive (give back/surrernder) the orginal bonus money and be willing to accept a 600 payout....they said no dice.
They are a WELCH Plain and Simple
But they know what they can get away with as a thief.
