WatchMeWin
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March 16th, 2012 at 8:32:21 AM permalink
Do people believe there is skill to consistenly winning or just luck? The stress the word 'consistently' !
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kmumf
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March 16th, 2012 at 8:38:30 AM permalink
The skill is knowing when your luck is running out....
DanMahowny
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March 16th, 2012 at 8:39:49 AM permalink
Depends on the game.

A skilled player can consistently beat blackjack, poker, video poker, sports, and horses.

IMO that's it! I didn't include craps- I don't believe the "dice controllers" are legit.

Any "winner" at the other games are/were lucky.
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s2dbaker
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March 16th, 2012 at 8:42:05 AM permalink
In slot machines? Luck!
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MrV
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March 16th, 2012 at 8:44:02 AM permalink
In life?

Skill and finesse.
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hook3670
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March 16th, 2012 at 8:48:02 AM permalink
A skilled player can occasionally beat those games, but not always. If that was the case, there would be 10 million professional gamblers running around the country. To be successful at anything you need a bit of luck, ask any sports team that has ever won a championship.
WatchMeWin
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March 16th, 2012 at 9:13:24 AM permalink
I consistently win. Period. Only play poker, craps, and jumped back into NBA for fun. Check out my documented winning record this week. 5-0. I hit for my usual 30% win in craps this week and won a poker tournament. The craps and poker have been consistent for years. Sports betting is not something that I would brag about because there are too many variables.. but I was put to the challenge this week. I put my mind to handicapping the best games I felt were on the board and I have gone 5 days straight undefeated... There must be more skill than luck involved.... just sayin...

And you too can be a winner.. just buy my new book and cd coming out this spring! Only 19.95, but wait, you will also get a money clip to hold all of the fucking dough you are winning and dont know what to do with! lol just kidding... but not a bad idea.
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AcesAndEights
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March 16th, 2012 at 3:33:09 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

I consistently win. Period. Only play poker, craps, and jumped back into NBA for fun. Check out my documented winning record this week. 5-0. I hit for my usual 30% win in craps this week and won a poker tournament. The craps and poker have been consistent for years. Sports betting is not something that I would brag about because there are too many variables.. but I was put to the challenge this week. I put my mind to handicapping the best games I felt were on the board and I have gone 5 days straight undefeated... There must be more skill than luck involved.... just sayin...


5 games is a ridiculously small sample size and proves nothing. It's a start to proving that you are a skilled handicapper, but you have to hit more than...53% I think it is? to beat the house vig on point spread bets. Not saying you can't do it, but there are few who can over a statistically significant time period.

You will find many skeptics of your sustained craps winnings on this board. It's just not possible to win over the long term unless you can influence the dice. If the dice are truly random, every bet has a house edge unless you are cheating (past-posting, etc.). Would you be willing to describe your craps methodology without giving away any proprietary information?
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thecesspit
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March 16th, 2012 at 4:36:56 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

Do people believe there is skill to consistenly winning or just luck? The stress the word 'consistently' !



Depends if I believe the game can have skill applied to it or not. Which is pretty much the core nub of a lot of the more passionate debates on the board.

I certainly think sports and poker can have skill applied, and to an extent that you can be favoured to turn a profit.

I think you can apply skill to Video Poker to reduce the house edge to the theoretical minimum.

I don't believe you can apply any skill to craps to reduce the house edge on any bet from it's posted value. Wins there are based on luck.
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CrapsForever
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March 16th, 2012 at 6:36:30 PM permalink
I definitely believe people who win consistently have good luck. WatchmeWin, I've read most of your posts here and I have to say I agree almost 100% with your views.

Some people have good luck, most of us don't!
Craps is the most "Jekyll and Hyde" casino game ever invented!

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