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s2dbaker
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March 22nd, 2012 at 8:05:05 PM permalink
I'm going to guess that The Bellagio is next but since I may not be able to post tomorrow, (apologies for pre-empting Doc in his thread) here is my chip from The Bellagio which I believe comes from the late 1990s. I don't think I've played a table game there since that time period but I could be wrong.
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March 22nd, 2012 at 8:24:55 PM permalink
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I'm going to guess that The Bellagio is next but ...



Nope. Not yet. Soon.
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March 23rd, 2012 at 6:29:09 AM permalink
State: Nevada
City: North Las Vegas
Casino: Barcelona


In spite of s2dbaker's nice-but-off-the-mark try last night at guessing today's Casino Chip of the Day, I'm going to stick to alphabetical order and present a different casino.

One day four or five years ago, I made one of my chip-collecting excursions around North Las Vegas, stopping by Jerry's Nugget, Lucky Club, Cannery, Poker Palace, Silver Nugget, Opera House, Bighorn, and Barcelona. (Yes, "Bar…" comes before "Bel….") I don't recall being particularly impressed with any of those casinos, but I did expand my collection.

I'm not completely certain what became of Barcelona, but I think it was converted as part of Siegel Slots and Suites, one location in a chain of economy apartments owned by the same folks who own the lovely Gold Spike. Once I learned that Siegel Slots didn't have table games, I didn't check into it any further.

While Lucyjr provided an image of a (very well worn) Bally's gaming token, the Barcelona token shown in this post is the first one in this thread from my collection. As noted previously, tokens started out as substitutes for silver dollars in slot machines and came more commonly into use in table games as TITO adoption for slots resulted in a gross surplus of token inventory. My biases are toward considering token use for table games as a sign of a low-class operation. Nothing to contradict that bias in this instance.

This is also the first of my posts that required two images: the two are the opposite sides of the same token. I don't really know how the sides of gaming tokens are designated: Heads and tails? Obverse and reverse? Which is which?

The token claims that the Barcelona is in "Las Vegas, NV", but it also states the address on East Craig Road, and I am reasonably confident that area is in North Las Vegas. I'll leave it to the locals to correct me on that. If I am right, it's another case of the casino playing a little loose with the city name, just as the strip casinos do. Since several other casinos do present their locations as North Las Vegas, that's what I am showing for Barcelona also, in spite of what the token says. Yes, I'm sometimes inconsistent.

The token also provides an opportunity for me to talk a little more about mint marks. Check out the second image – not only does the token have a date (1992) but look closely below the big "1" and just above the words "Gaming Token." You may or may not be able to see anything at all on the small image, but if you click on it and look at the medium image, you'll probably be able to see that there is "something" there, but good luck reading it.

I had to take a magnifying class to the token itself and study that worn blip for a while before I could make out that it is a mint mark of "CT". A bit of research led to the info that this is the mark of Casino Tokens Inc., which was owned from 1977-1993 by one Richard Ziser. According to Mr. Ziser's Linkedin bio, he also campaigned for the Republican nomination for the U.S. Senate in 2004, losing of course to Harry Reid.

A decade earlier in 1993, Mr. Ziser had sold Casino Tokens Inc. to another token manufacturer, GDC. More about that manufacturer in a future post about a different token.

So, does anyone know whether Barcelona ever used $1 chips, rather than tokens? If so, is there anyone here who has one and can post a photo?

Johnzimbo
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March 23rd, 2012 at 7:04:45 AM permalink
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So, does anyone know whether Barcelona ever used $1 chips, rather than tokens? If so, is there anyone here who has one and can post a photo?



I have never been to this casino but my book "The Official U.S. Casino Chip Price Guide" says they opened in 1989 and did at some point have $1 chips
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March 23rd, 2012 at 7:20:30 AM permalink
Thanks, Johnzimbo. Maybe some member of the forum will have one of those chips. Am I right to assume that in your price guide my Barcelona $1 token is shown as having a value of about 37 cents?
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March 23rd, 2012 at 7:33:46 AM permalink
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Thanks, Johnzimbo. Maybe some member of the forum will have one of those chips. Am I right to assume that in your price guide my Barcelona $1 token is shown as having a value of about 37 cents?



Hehe...they only list chip prices not tokens. I'll give you $.38 for it though
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March 23rd, 2012 at 9:06:47 AM permalink
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Cowabunga! And correctamundo.

Next trivia question, without looking them up, do you know where those two expressions originated? Trivia from different eras.



From the television shows Howdy Doody and Happy Days. As you wished I didn't look them up. Although Fonzie used correctamundo, I'm not sure if that's where it originated. I am sure about Howdy Doody.
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March 23rd, 2012 at 9:19:33 AM permalink
Are your tokens from different places the same size and weight?

I always assumed they would be the same as the Eisenhower dollar, so that they could be used interchangably. However, that could open the doors to mass use of tokens from less reputable joints (i.e., no guarantee you will get your money back) ending up in the hoppers at the larger places.

I do know that slots are constructed with a sensor that checks for magenetic materials to catch slugs, but I don't think they are sophisticated enough, nor the practice cost effective, for a smaller joint to customize each of their machines to check for a custom formulation in their tokens. Just a guess.
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March 23rd, 2012 at 9:34:32 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I always assumed they would be the same as the Eisenhower dollar, so that they could be used interchangably. However, that could open the doors to mass use of tokens from less reputable joints (i.e., no guarantee you will get your money back) ending up in the hoppers at the larger places.



I recall an ep of "Breaking Vegas" about a guy who counterfeited slot tokens. He'd take them to a casino, I think in Atlantic City, put some in the slots, then cash out the unplayed tokens as though he won them. As I recall, he did this in several casinos. the designs were simple enough to make counterfeiting rather easy.
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March 23rd, 2012 at 11:35:33 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Quote: Doc

Cowabunga! And correctamundo.

Next trivia question, without looking them up, do you know where those two expressions originated? Trivia from different eras.



From the television shows Howdy Doody and Happy Days. As you wished I didn't look them up. Although Fonzie used correctamundo, I'm not sure if that's where it originated. I am sure about Howdy Doody.


I thought Cowabunga originated from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles...but I've never seen an episode of Howdy Doody, other than the intro song coming up on Doc's TV in Back to the Future III. "Great Scott! Howdy Doody time!"
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