SONBP2
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February 21st, 2012 at 11:40:32 PM permalink
A reliable source informed me that Tim Tebow, the outspoken Christian QB for the Denver Broncos, was at the Cosmopolitan last weekend. He played blackjack in the high limit area, lost about $10,000 and left a $5000 tip. I know that there were previous posts concerning topics such as "Should a priest gamble," or "Is gambling bad?"

While I am a Christian and believe that gambling within your means is not a sin, if I was in Tebow's shoes I don't believe that I would gamble. I think there are many reasons if I was in his shoes that I don't believe he should gamble, as I don't believe gambling helps the image he is trying to project, espcially to many of his sponsors/investors and fan base. He has created this image similar to the original image Tiger Woods attempted to project as this wholesome family man. You can't project one image, as this perfect saint, and then live a different life. I am not saying that that is what Tebow is doing, but sometimes that perfect image is just to hard to live up too.

Just wondering what the forum thinks.
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February 21st, 2012 at 11:51:35 PM permalink
It's good that he doesn't attempt to hide his true nature.

Woods did, for years, whoring in Las Vegas with his dad, then acting in public like he walked on water.

No, Tebow is just a man ... warts and all.

Now, here's hoping he can develop as a drop back pocket passer ...
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February 21st, 2012 at 11:54:26 PM permalink
I thought Christians preferred casting lots to blackjack?
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February 22nd, 2012 at 12:32:44 AM permalink
Interesting. There is the discomfort the league has with any kind of betting, never mind the Christian angle.

I think it comes from resisting the image that Christian men have sometimes about not appearing to be "Mr. Goody Two Shoes"
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February 22nd, 2012 at 3:02:07 AM permalink
He should have walked over to the Forum Shops and asked Pete Rose how that gambling thing worked out for his career.
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February 22nd, 2012 at 4:03:13 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

He should have walked over to the Forum Shops and asked Pete Rose how that gambling thing worked out for his career.



LoL... that's so true. He was there the last time I was in town, and I wondered why there was no line to meet him.

As far as Tebow, I know the OP has a reliable source, but I wonder how true the story is. Given his high profile, I have a hard time believing that no media outlet has shone any sort of light on the subject. I know there is a pick-and-choose mentality with some celebrities, but as another person pointed out, right now, he is shown as having no vices.

Besides, 10,000 is a drop in the bucket for him. Ben Affleck was known to drop hundreds of thousands at a time at the Hard Rock. My cousin deals there, and he said that he felt Affleck really had a gambling problem. He isn't as high profile anymore and doesn't do it as often, but some of his crap sessions paid for some nice Christmases for the dealers children.
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February 22nd, 2012 at 4:59:10 AM permalink
Honestly, Tebow doesn't have the money to be dropping 15K in one night on blackjack. There's no guarantee he'll ever get a big contract that will keep him set for life.

I guess he's counting on the speaking engagements he'll get after he retires/is forced out of football.

I also wonder why jesus would let him lose all that money. You'd think he'd start down 50K then end up winning it all back and an extra 1K with a miracle splitting 10s against an Ace or something.
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February 22nd, 2012 at 6:50:45 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

Honestly, Tebow doesn't have the money to be dropping 15K in one night on blackjack. There's no guarantee he'll ever get a big contract that will keep him set for life.

I guess he's counting on the speaking engagements he'll get after he retires/is forced out of football.

I also wonder why jesus would let him lose all that money. You'd think he'd start down 50K then end up winning it all back and an extra 1K with a miracle splitting 10s against an Ace or something.



I would argue otherwise. He received an 8.7 million contract guaranteed, with 11 million base and up to 33 million maximum. His performance has been pretty solid, it would be interesting to know what his actually salary is.

Assuming his base pay, the man makes 2.2 million a year. I currently make 110,000 a year, which is 20x less then Tebow. By comparison, him losing 15k in one night is similar to me losing $750 in one night. I have lost much more then that in one night.
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February 22nd, 2012 at 7:32:44 AM permalink
Initial reaction? Story is FALSE.
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February 22nd, 2012 at 7:45:20 AM permalink
I think it is false, but if true, his life, his choices. I dont think the religion aspect should stop him from gambling. Now if he took 3 of the crowd that was gathered with him watching up to his room and they left a few thousand ahead. maybe a different story!
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February 22nd, 2012 at 7:52:13 AM permalink
According to TMZ, and really aren't they the most reliable source on this sort of thing....

What happens in Vegas ... was pretty tame for Tim Tebow yesterday.

The Denver Broncos quarterback was spotted strolling through the Bellagio hotel last night along with his brother and a friend ... after catching a performance of the Cirque du Soleil show, "O."

We spoke to Tebow's rep ... who told us Tim was in town for a Nike photo shoot ... and was only in Vegas for the day.

We're told Tebow didn't gamble, didn't party, and definitely didn't attend the big AVN porn convention that happens to be going on down the street.

We asked how Tebow's ribs and lungs were feeling after the beating he took at the hands of the New England Patriots last weekend -- and his rep told us, "He's doing good ... taking his time to relax and rehab. He's been rehabbing non-stop."

We asked how Tebow would be spending his first free weekend in months ... and the rep told us, "He's looking forward to going to church."
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February 22nd, 2012 at 10:55:24 AM permalink
He was definitely in Vegas. I follow a few of the Broncos players on Twitter and Orlando Franklin (Denver's rookie right tackle) posted a picture of a bunch of Denver's O-Lineman getting off the plane in Vegas with Tebow in tow.

As to the blackjack story, I find it unlikely due to the image he's trying to portray, but who knows. The big tip is nice for sure, and may sway some people who wouldn't want him to be gambling in the first place.
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February 22nd, 2012 at 11:34:47 AM permalink
So I guess he must be counting???? If he's an AP then it's not against anything right? I remember hearing about a movie on here about a group of preachers who started a card counting team.
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February 22nd, 2012 at 1:06:17 PM permalink
Quote: SONBP2

I think there are many reasons if I was in his shoes that I don't believe he should gamble, as I don't believe gambling helps the image he is trying to project, espcially to many of his sponsors/investors and fan base.



I make no secret that I don't like Tebow, but I can respect him. Now, if the whole "faith" thing is just an image, then I not only can't I respect him, but I shoulnd't either. So if he gambles out of his own free will, on ocassion or regularly, that's his business.

What he can't do, ethically and due to NFL rules, is bet on football games. Not even in places, like Vegas, where it's legal to do so.
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February 22nd, 2012 at 1:35:36 PM permalink
Quote: rebelaccountant

So I guess he must be counting???? If he's an AP then it's not against anything right? I remember hearing about a movie on here about a group of preachers who started a card counting team.


Holy Rollers: The True Story of Card Counting Christians

Looks pretty stupid to me, but I might watch it as I am currently a card counter and used to be a Christian.
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February 22nd, 2012 at 2:58:59 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

He should have walked over to the Forum Shops and asked Pete Rose how that gambling thing worked out for his career.



Does PR do appeaerances there a lot or did you just pick that at random. I ask because last time I was there Rose was supposed to be at the sports card shop.

As long as it is not a game they are in I see no problem. If you must then just say "no sports betting" same as dealers here in PA cannot gamble in the state.
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